Crimson King
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Post by Crimson King on Jun 18, 2012 15:52:33 GMT
So councillors who are quietly gay and have a partner in private, are going to have to now tell the world via the web that Mr X who lives in the same house is more than just a friend... Isn't this where Simon Hughes and David Laws got into difficulty? Of course MPs are a much higher level than parish councillors, and paid much more too. Slightly different, that was over expenses claims - the issue for councillors is that they may be making decisions which could financially benefit them directly or indirectly (via a spouse relative or partner) so yes, if your partner, same sex or otherwise, has financial interests significant enough to make the cut then yes, they will have to be declared. I have done it any number of times and it isn't that onerous |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 15:53:06 GMT
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Post by marksenior on Jun 18, 2012 19:56:37 GMT
Not much use consulting the council website but
July 19th Breckland DC ( Attleborough ) Queens Ward Conservative seat resignation
and date TBC same council Harling and Heathlands ward Conservative seat resignation
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jun 18, 2012 22:51:58 GMT
You may not know all your partner's interests. Some partners put up with their spouse going to meetings etc, but having their details online may cause tension in some household. As Mark says, it will become even harder to get people to do these roles, especially high callibre people. It's a huge own goal. If you don't know it, then it isn't a conflict is it? I'm not entirely sure that works. If a conflict comes to light you are likely to be blamed for it and it will be assumed you knew, even if this is not the case. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2012 12:14:01 GMT
If you don't know it, then it isn't a conflict is it? I'm not entirely sure that works. If a conflict comes to light you are likely to be blamed for it and it will be assumed you knew, even if this is not the case. Indeed, and your honesty and integrity could be questioned if you claim ignorance, even if it's genuine. |
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Post by Crimson King on Jun 19, 2012 13:29:53 GMT
I'm not entirely sure that works. If a conflict comes to light you are likely to be blamed for it and it will be assumed you knew, even if this is not the case. Indeed, and your honesty and integrity could be questioned if you claim ignorance, even if it's genuine. Fair enough, tongue slighlty in cheek at that point. Mind you if you don't know where your spouse works/what property they own I would suggest you have bigger problems to worry about than the forms a parish council is sending you |
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Post by marksenior on Jun 19, 2012 15:37:34 GMT
Parish councillors are elected officials and a parish council has the ability to demand money from their local community, so they should be properly accountable and open about their own private and financial interests. The attitude which you often hear from parish councillors that "everyone in the village knows me, so there's no point" is very naive. Plus Parish Councils do have an input into planning matters, as a statutory consultee, drawing up Parish Plans etc. So I agree with David that this is not unreasonable. I think that you are missing the point . Parish/Town councillors already have to declare an interest in any matter that the Parish/Town council has to vote on . The change is that they have to publish their and their partner's financial interests online for anyone to see . A very large number of current and potential future councillors will decide that being a Parish/Town councillor which has zero financial reward is not worth having their financial details plastered over the web . |
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Post by erlend on Jun 19, 2012 18:32:03 GMT
I have always been a bit sceptical about the practicality on partners. The place of work may be fairly obvious but any detail beyond that less so. You are obliged to tell the public about all their assets. But you have no ability to insist they tell you. But I am sure that monitoring officers would not accept a 'don't know'. Does that mean they would expel you from public life?
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Post by marksenior on Jun 22, 2012 8:43:09 GMT
Jon Clarke , Conservative councillor for Stotfold/Langford on Central Beds UA has sadly died .
Breckland DC Thetford Abbey councillor Carl Clark who had just resigned from Labour has resigned his seat so that his electorate can judge his new colours
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 22, 2012 15:00:31 GMT
Future byelections are as under:
28 June - 6
* Blaby DC, Ravenhurst and Fosse (Lab)
* Charnwood BC, Sileby (C)
* Chelmsford BC, Patching Hall (LD)
* Essex CC, Chelmsford North (LD)
* Kensington and Chelsea LB, Brompton (C)
* South Northamptonshire DC, Grange Park (C)
5 July - 9
* Chesterfield BC, St Helen's (Lab)
* Fylde BC, Heyhouses (C)
* Kingston-upon-Thames LB, Grove (L Dem)
* Liverpool MB, Allerton and Hunts Cross (L Dem)
* Liverpool MB, Riverside (Lab)
* Maldon DC, Tollesbury (C)
* Malvern Hills DC, Malvern West (GP)
* Thanet DC, Westgate-on-Sea (C)
* Tonbridge and Malling BC, Malling West and Leybourne (C)
12 July - 8
* Ashford BC, Tenterden South (C)
* Corby DC, East (Lab)
* East Hampshire DC, Horndean Downs (C)
* Hammersmith and Fulham LB, Town (C)
* Isle of Anglesey CC, Gwyngyll (PC)
* Isle of Anglesey CC, Llanbedrgoch (Ind)
* Oxfordshire CC, Cowley and Littlemore (Lab)
* Waltham Forest LB, Larkswood (C)
19 July - 2
* Breckland DC, Queen's (C)
* Calderdale MB, Warley (L Dem)
26 July - 2
* Breckland DC, Harling and Heathlands (C)
* Stoke-on-Trent UA, Springfields and Trent Vale (Lab)
Pending not yet called - 8
* Breckland DC, Mid Forest (C impending resignation)
* Breckland DC, Thetford Abbey (Ind elected as Lab impending resignation)
* Calderdale MB, Calder (L Dem impending resignation)
* Central Bedfordshire UA, Stotfold and Langford (C died 19 June)
* Lincolnshire CC, Lincoln East (C resigned 18 June)
* South Holland DC, Long Sutton (Ind died 13 June)
* Vale of Glamorgan CC, Buttrills (Lab died 26 May)
* Wealden DC, Polegate North (L Dem died 30 May)
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Post by linders on Jun 22, 2012 15:46:47 GMT
Further to the previous discussion, what is the definition of "partner"...?
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Post by listener on Jun 22, 2012 17:43:35 GMT
According to the Breckland website, the Mid Forest by-election has also been called for 26 July 2012.
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Post by greatkingrat on Jun 22, 2012 19:05:55 GMT
I was hoping they were going for 4 elections in 4 weeks!
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Post by fwt on Jun 23, 2012 14:29:56 GMT
19th July - Milford ward, New Forest DC. Absolutely no information that I can find on the council website, so no idea what the cause is - was a Conservative seat. Candidates are just Con and Lab.
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Post by ToBeFair on Jun 23, 2012 22:10:26 GMT
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Post by marksenior on Jun 28, 2012 7:11:39 GMT
Pam Lyne , Independent Councillor for St Keverne and Meneage on Cornwall CC has sadly died .
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Post by marksenior on Jun 28, 2012 13:30:22 GMT
Christopher Michaelides , Labour councillor for Bettws ward on Bridgend CBC has sadly died .
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Post by marksenior on Jun 29, 2012 7:42:45 GMT
Chris Cowlin Holland Residents ASS councillor for St Bartholomew's ward on Tendring DC has resigned . He was elected at a byelection in March
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Post by listener on Jun 29, 2012 12:54:42 GMT
Sheila East, the Conservative member for Castle ward in Dartford, sadly died on 2 June, following a battle with cancer. There is also a vacancy in the Castle ward of Stone Parish Council.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jun 29, 2012 13:15:24 GMT
Chris Cowlin Holland Residents ASS councillor for St Bartholomew's ward on Tendring DC has resigned . He was elected at a byelection in March The reason given by the local press is work commitments. Sounds like he didn't realise what the role actually involved. |
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