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Post by neilm on Jul 2, 2014 19:07:21 GMT
Given there is a fair chance that PCC's will be abolished (the documentary certainly won't have helped) this could be a brief sojourn for whoever wins What documentary is this? |
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Post by AdminSTB on Jul 2, 2014 19:18:12 GMT
Surely this should be under local by-elections, not parliamentary by-elections? PCCs don't sit in any parliament. A fair observation. I will leave it to AdminSTB to decide on any move. It doesn't really fit into either, and since PCC by-elections are going to be very rare, I'm not going to make a category just for them. I think it's fine here. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 2, 2014 20:23:38 GMT
Given there is a fair chance that PCC's will be abolished (the documentary certainly won't have helped) this could be a brief sojourn for whoever wins What documentary is this? It was on a couple of weeks ago. Focused on the Kent PCC. It was an absolute hatchet job. They played clown music in the background when she was on. But she did take her dogs in to work. I think the entire reasoning behind the post is faulty |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 2, 2014 20:33:18 GMT
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Post by neilm on Jul 2, 2014 21:12:07 GMT
Thanks gents.
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Post by samdwebber on Jul 3, 2014 0:45:31 GMT
Update on this story from a Birmingham Based Agency blogger - wp.me/p2ogCv-3MS
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Post by iainbhx on Jul 3, 2014 6:15:33 GMT
Update on this story from a Birmingham Based Agency blogger - wp.me/p2ogCv-3MS # As this is a high level position, you can assume that Mr Dale may know something. |
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Post by greatkingrat on Jul 3, 2014 6:36:25 GMT
The Home Office may have been asked to delay it, but I'm not sure they would have the power to do so. I suspect the only way to delay it would be to pass new legislation to change the timescale.
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Post by Richard Allen on Jul 3, 2014 7:11:00 GMT
Update on this story from a Birmingham Based Agency blogger - wp.me/p2ogCv-3MS # As this is a high level position, you can assume that Mr Dale may know something. You can also assume that Mr Dale will not have sullied himself by actually researching the facts about what powers the Home Office have to enforce such a delay. |
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Post by Crimson King on Jul 3, 2014 7:46:02 GMT
It would be amusing if no one thought it worth bothering with
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 8:20:12 GMT
The Home Office may have been asked to delay it, but I'm not sure they would have the power to do so. I suspect the only way to delay it would be to pass new legislation to change the timescale. The 35 days is set in statute so it can't be the easiest task to have it altered, I assume? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 3, 2014 8:49:39 GMT
The Home Office may have been asked to delay it, but I'm not sure they would have the power to do so. I suspect the only way to delay it would be to pass new legislation to change the timescale. The 35 days is set in statute so it can't be the easiest task to have it altered, I assume? It is indeed in statute. There is no power to extend the timetable; oddly there is power to delay the day of ordinary elections for Police and Crime Commissioners, but there is no power in relation to elections to fill vacancies. It would need emergency legislation to allow a delay (which would be embarrassing given how new the Act is). The actual setting of the day of election is for the Chief Executive of Birmingham City Council as the designated Returning Officer. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 9:43:16 GMT
The 35 days is set in statute so it can't be the easiest task to have it altered, I assume? It is indeed in statute. There is no power to extend the timetable; oddly there is power to delay the day of ordinary elections for Police and Crime Commissioners, but there is no power in relation to elections to fill vacancies. It would need emergency legislation to allow a delay (which would be embarrassing given how new the Act is). The actual setting of the day of election is for the Chief Executive of Birmingham City Council as the designated Returning Officer. Cheers David. As said above, perhaps a situation nobody thought would need to put into legislation! Hasty law and all that. |
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Post by iainbhx on Jul 3, 2014 11:24:01 GMT
It would be amusing if no one thought it worth bothering with With that sort of salary and patronage, there's not a chance of that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 19:37:40 GMT
no one does CK hence the turnouts barely got into double figures.
It should not be delayed, the law/rules are there and if we see a comical turnout then it make scrapping the PCC much easier.
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Post by johnloony on Jul 3, 2014 23:13:10 GMT
If the law specifies a maximum of 35 days, it's odd that it doesn't have a bit which allows for a week or two do be discounted for August or Christmas/New Year or whatever.
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Post by iainbhx on Jul 4, 2014 18:35:14 GMT
I must admit that when I heard about this, the first thought that went through my head was "just how low will the turnout be?!" The answer will lie with the postal vote. I suspect the turnout will be low, but enough people will return postals that it will merely be a comedy turnout not a hilarious one. I suspect it will be at the same level as the miserable November original elections. |
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Post by samdwebber on Jul 4, 2014 23:45:26 GMT
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Post by independentukip on Jul 5, 2014 0:43:17 GMT
What is the genuine as opposed to party political problem here? What day subsequent to 21st August did the Labour Party expect this election to be held bearing in mind the two relevant sections of the 2011 Act? |
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Post by neilm on Jul 5, 2014 1:19:27 GMT
First lets say no matter which side of the political divide you was Bob was well respected and liked. A loss to the region and worked really well with the police to try and get the right policies in place. That's not what I've heard and I've spoken to people across the divide. |
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