West Midlands PCC

[Deleted]

Bob Jones CBE has sadly died.

[greatkingrat]

By-election must take place within 35 working days, so 14th August is the last day it can be held. Middle of the school holidays, maybe 8-9% turnout?

[AdminSTB]

UKIP gain?

[The Bishop]

Given the demographics, a tall order I would have thought.

[Deleted]

Jul 1, 2014 11:51:47 GMT AdminSTB said:

UKIP gain?

First lets say no matter which side of the political divide you was Bob was well respected and liked. A loss to the region and worked really well with the police to try and get the right policies in place.

As for UKIP, I do not see it, only so many jobs Bill Etheridge can do really but the turnout could be as low as 5%, or this one if it is at the prospective date I will need a postal vote for the first time ever.

[carlton43]

Jul 1, 2014 12:22:39 GMT @ianrobo said:

Jul 1, 2014 11:51:47 GMT AdminSTB said:

UKIP gain?

First lets say no matter which side of the political divide you was Bob was well respected and liked. A loss to the region and worked really well with the police to try and get the right policies in place.

As for UKIP, I do not see it, only so many jobs Bill Etheridge can do really but the turnout could be as low as 5%, or this one if it is at the prospective date I will need a postal vote for the first time ever.

Drop the 'ever', robo. There is only 'ever' one 'first time' (ask a former virgin!); it is all in the title...'first'.

[AdminSTB]

I'm forgetting this covers the West Midlands county, not the West Midlands region.

[Deleted]

however Kris say the turnout is so low as 5% then of course far more scope for a smaller party to get enough ?

however we should remind ourselves that Bob won easy last time and the UKIP was very low really.

[Tony Otim]

Surely this should be under local by-elections, not parliamentary by-elections? PCCs don't sit in any parliament.

[Deleted]

Jul 1, 2014 13:52:06 GMT Tony Otim said:

Surely this should be under local by-elections, not parliamentary by-elections? PCCs don't sit in any parliament.

A fair observation. I will leave it to AdminSTB to decide on any move.

[Merseymike]

Given there is a fair chance that PCC's will be abolished (the documentary certainly won't have helped) this could be a brief sojourn for whoever wins

[Deleted]

Well we made it clear Mike that if we are in power next year, they go.

[Harry Hayfield]

Cllr. James Alexander (Lab, Holgate on City of York) has tweeted that there will not be a by-election as the Deputy has been sworn in as the new PCC

[Davıd Boothroyd]

Jul 1, 2014 15:42:49 GMT Harry Hayfield said:

Cllr. James Alexander (Lab, Holgate on City of York) has tweeted that there will not be a by-election as the Deputy has been sworn in as the new PCC

I don't find that in any of his tweets. He says that West Midlands is the first place to have an unelected Police and Crime Commissioner, not that an election will not follow.

The legislation is section 51 of the Police Reform and Social Responsibility Act 2011: www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2011/13/section/51

[Deleted]

Lovely tribute from Camra regarding Bob

www.camra.org.uk/bob-jones-1955-2014

[greatkingrat]

Jul 1, 2014 15:42:49 GMT Harry Hayfield said:

Cllr. James Alexander (Lab, Holgate on City of York) has tweeted that there will not be a by-election as the Deputy has been sworn in as the new PCC

The deputy will have become the new Acting PCC, but only until the by-election is held.

[Richard Allen]

Jul 1, 2014 13:08:04 GMT carlton43 said:

Jul 1, 2014 12:22:39 GMT @ianrobo said:

First lets say no matter which side of the political divide you was Bob was well respected and liked. A loss to the region and worked really well with the police to try and get the right policies in place.

As for UKIP, I do not see it, only so many jobs Bill Etheridge can do really but the turnout could be as low as 5%, or this one if it is at the prospective date I will need a postal vote for the first time ever.

Drop the 'ever', robo. There is only 'ever' one 'first time' (ask a former virgin!); it is all in the title...'first'.

The obvious UKIP candidate would be Mike Rumble who fought the last PCC election as an independent but subsequently joined UKIP.

[carlton43]

Jul 1, 2014 18:38:33 GMT Richard Allen said:

Jul 1, 2014 13:08:04 GMT carlton43 said:

Drop the 'ever', robo. There is only 'ever' one 'first time' (ask a former virgin!); it is all in the title...'first'.

The obvious UKIP candidate would be Mike Rumble who fought the last PCC election as an independent but subsequently joined UKIP.

What do you think of him Richard? Is he up to the job?

[Richard Allen]

Jul 1, 2014 19:08:09 GMT carlton43 said:

Jul 1, 2014 18:38:33 GMT Richard Allen said:

The obvious UKIP candidate would be Mike Rumble who fought the last PCC election as an independent but subsequently joined UKIP.

What do you think of him Richard? Is he up to the job?

I only met him once and spoke to him very briefly. I was left with a fairly positive impression and other people in UKIP whose opinion I valued also had a high opinion of him. Politically he is sound but I have no way to judge how capable he would be of doing the job. Then again if Bob Jones could do it there is no reason why he shouldn't be able to.

[johnloony]

Jul 1, 2014 21:37:20 GMT Harry Hayfield said:

West Midlands PCC Election (Local Area Results: First Preferences)
Birmingham: Lab 41%, Ind 27%, Con 16%, Lib Dem 11%, UKIP 5% (Lab)
Coventry: Lab 46%, Ind 26%, Con 17%, UKIP 7%, Lib Dem 3% (Lab)
Dudley: Lab 34%, Ind 28%, Con 21%, UKIP 14%, Lib Dem 3% (Lab)
Sandwell: Lab 59%, Ind 17%, Con 12%, UKIP 7%, Lib Dem 5% (Lab)
Solihull: Ind 40%, Con 30%, Lab 19%, UKIP 8%, Lib Dem 3% (Ind)
Walsall: Lab 41%, Con 26%, Ind 20%, UKIP 10%, Lib Dem 3% (Lab)
Wolverhampton: Lab 53%, Ind 18%, Con 17%, UKIP 9%, Lib Dem 3% (Lab)
Overall: Lab 42%, Ind 26%, Con 19%, UKIP 7%, Lib Dem 6% (Lab)

You haven't specified what source you've copied that from, but it was obviously written by an insane booliak who thinks it is acceptable to insult us by adding together the votes of three separate independent candidates.