Edmonton

[finsobruce]

Edmonton UDC 1925

Bury St ward
Barrass, Mrs (Labour) 1537*
Gatward, H (Labour) 1144*
Hone, A R (Labour) 1199*
Elms, W C (Welfare) 854
Byrne, A E (Welfare) 784
Shortland, A E (Welfare) 800
Deffee, A (Independent) 708

Church St ward
Middleton, W F (Welfare) 1558*
Dashwood, P W (Welfare) 1528*
Beeston, C H (Welfare) 1397*
McManis, T J (Welfare) 1353*
Austin, A J (Labour) 1343
Coe, Mrs M (Labour) 1331
Smith, W G (Labour) 1306
Nicholson, Mrs E (Labour) 1294

Fore St ward
Harington, T J (Labour ) 1204*
Jenner, S (Labour) 1121*
Hearn, Mrs E M (Labour) 1093
Smith, Miss E (Welfare) 789
Reynolds, P J (Welfare) 738
Press, A C (Welfare) 732

[finsobruce]

Edmonton UDC 1926

Bury St ward
Barrass,H (Labour) 1629*
Preye, W (Labour) 1462*
Smith, W G (Labour) 1417*
Elms, W C (Welfare) 497
Copley, C (Welfare) 428
Deffee, A (Independent) 399

Church St ward
Mcmanis, T J (Welfare) 1373*
Sanders, Mrs M E (Welfare) 1366*
Darling, Mrs (Welfare) 1333*
Porteous, Mrs (Labour) 1277
Taylor, W T (Labour) 1262
Austin, A J (Labour) 1257

Fore St ward
Hollywood, Mr A J G (Labour) 1234*
Perry, G W (Labour) 1230*
Coe, Mrs (Labour) 1207
Smith, Miss E (Welfare) 649
Barber, R H (Welfare) 606
Elton, L (Welfare) 596

How are the mighty fallen. Mr Deffee falls from heading the poll with 1655 votes to finishing bottom with 399 votes in four years. He doesn't appear again. 

[neilm]

Who are Welfare? People getting inspiration from George Lansbury? Or Conservatives on disguise?

[ColinJ]

Jun 25, 2014 20:04:39 GMT finsobruce said:

Edmonton UDC 1923

Bury St ward
Barrass, H (Labour) 2195*
Tughan, D (Independent) 1726*
Preye, W (Labour) 1631*
Young, mrs (Labour) 1528
Burton, Dr (Independent) 1424
Cornish, Alderman , W D (Welfare) 871
Pettipierre, L W C (Welfare) 732
Elms, Mrs (Welfare) 653
Holt, J W (Communist) 112
Boreham, A (Street traders) 93
Allen, B B (Street traders) 598
Mackmin, E W (Street traders) 29

Looks like a typo to me.

[ColinJ]

Jun 25, 2014 20:47:03 GMT finsobruce said:

Edmonton UDC 1924
Labour win all seats up for election in all three wards for the first time since 1920. Not sure why there appear to be four Labour candidates in Church St or four elected in Fore st. This is the first appearance of the redoutable Mrs Catharine Tabraham, charwoman and councillor. More of her later....

It looks to me like there were four vacancies in both Church Street and Fore Street wards. The extra seat in each case being caused by a casual vacancy being filled at the annual election time.

[ColinJ]

Jun 25, 2014 21:30:57 GMT finsobruce said:

Edmonton UDC 1926

How are the mighty fallen. Mr Deffee falls from heading the poll with 1655 votes to finishing bottom with 399 votes in four years. He doesn't appear again. 

Elected in 1922, Mr Deffee would have been up for re-election in 1925, but clearly did not stand then. Reappearing a year later (and not as an incumbent councillor) will not have helped his chances!

[ColinJ]

Jun 25, 2014 21:30:57 GMT finsobruce said:

Edmonton UDC 1926

How are the mighty fallen. Mr Deffee falls from heading the poll with 1655 votes to finishing bottom with 399 votes in four years. He doesn't appear again. 

Elected in 1922, Mr Deffee would have been up for re-election in 1925, but clearly did not stand then. Reappearing a year later (and not as an incumbent councillor) will not have helped his chances!

[finsobruce]

Jun 26, 2014 8:42:45 GMT ColinJ said:

Jun 25, 2014 21:30:57 GMT finsobruce said:

Edmonton UDC 1926

How are the mighty fallen. Mr Deffee falls from heading the poll with 1655 votes to finishing bottom with 399 votes in four years. He doesn't appear again. 

Elected in 1922, Mr Deffee would have been up for re-election in 1925, but clearly did not stand then. Reappearing a year later (and not as an incumbent councillor) will not have helped his chances!

He did stand in 1925, finishing bottom as in 1926 but with slightly more votes. He rode the tiger for a while , and then it deserted him.

[finsobruce]

Jun 26, 2014 7:07:58 GMT neilm said:

Who are Welfare? People getting inspiration from George Lansbury? Or Conservatives on disguise?

Welfare, or the Public Welfare association were a grouping of Tories and Liberals formed to opppose Labour rather than stand under their own labels. The Tories start appearing under their own name in the 1930s 1929 I think (not at home can't look at data).

[finsobruce]

Jun 26, 2014 8:32:47 GMT ColinJ said:

Jun 25, 2014 20:04:39 GMT finsobruce said:

Edmonton UDC 1923

Bury St ward
Barrass, H (Labour) 2195*
Tughan, D (Independent) 1726*
Preye, W (Labour) 1631*
Young, mrs (Labour) 1528
Burton, Dr (Independent) 1424
Cornish, Alderman , W D (Welfare) 871
Pettipierre, L W C (Welfare) 732
Elms, Mrs (Welfare) 653
Holt, J W (Communist) 112
Boreham, A (Street traders) 93
Allen, B B (Street traders) 598 98
Mackmin, E W (Street traders) 29

Looks like a typo to me.

corrected. that's what comes of trying to type and watch France vs Ecuador at the same time. hang on, that still isn't right. I'll check when i get home. probably 98 and 93 in the correct order.

[Tony Otim]

Possibly 59 or 58?

[finsobruce]

Jun 26, 2014 8:32:47 GMT ColinJ said:

Jun 25, 2014 20:04:39 GMT finsobruce said:

Edmonton UDC 1923

Bury St ward
Barrass, H (Labour) 2195*
Tughan, D (Independent) 1726*
Preye, W (Labour) 1631*
Young, mrs (Labour) 1528
Burton, Dr (Independent) 1424
Cornish, Alderman , W D (Welfare) 871
Pettipierre, L W C (Welfare) 732
Elms, Mrs (Welfare) 653
Holt, J W (Communist) 112
Boreham, A (Street traders) 93
Allen, B B (Street traders) 598 58
Mackmin, E W (Street traders) 29

Looks like a typo to me.

finally got it right!   They didn't do very well whatever their beef was. 

[ColinJ]

Jun 26, 2014 18:57:50 GMT finsobruce said:

Jun 26, 2014 8:32:47 GMT ColinJ said:

Looks like a typo to me.

finally got it right!   They didn't do very well whatever their beef was. 

Also just spotted in this 1923 result an Alderman W.D. Cornish. Urban Districts did not of course have Aldermen, so I guess he was an Alderman of the Middlesex County Council?

[finsobruce]

Edmonton UDC 1927

Bury St Ward
Young, Mrs E A (Labour) 1569*
Harvey, H P (Labour) 1498*
Moore, F C (Labour) 1479
Green, W T (Welfare) 757
Baddeley (Welfare) 744
Stone, H A (Welfare) 740

Church St Ward
Giband, J J (Welfare) 1909*
Ithell, Mrs L R (Labour) 1902*
Stephens, E S (Welfare) 1883*
Baker, F J (Labour) 1856
Payne, F W (Welfare) 1854
Euesden , G D (Labour) 1819

Fore St ward
Tabraham, Mrs A C (Labour)1354*
Venables, W W (Labour) 1336*
Reid, J (Labour) 1335*
Shaw, Mrs A E (Welfare) 916
Scott, W J (Welfare) 898
Burdett, R J (Welfare) 864

[finsobruce]

Jun 26, 2014 19:50:29 GMT ColinJ said:

Jun 26, 2014 18:57:50 GMT finsobruce said:

finally got it right!   They didn't do very well whatever their beef was. 

Also just spotted in this 1923 result an Alderman W.D. Cornish. Urban Districts did not of course have Aldermen, so I guess he was an Alderman of the Middlesex County Council?

I've just had a quick search and the 1913 report of the Medical officer of health for Edmonton records that the area was represented on the County Council by Cornish (and Barrass to mention another familiar name). The County history online records that W D Cornish was the largest firm of local brickmakers, which finally closed in 1936. He had been elected to the UDC as early as 1899 as an Independent for Silver St ward and then to Fore St ward in 1904, 1907 (as a Ratepayer) , 1910 and 1913 (Independent again) before losing in 1919. 1923 was his first contest in Bury St ward and he tried again in Church St ward the following year. Newspapers record him as still being a magistrate in the 1930s when he jailed a man for cutting off women's hair on the pretence of getting them a free permanent wave, and freed a Spurs fan who had allegedly cut down the German flag at White Hart Lane. Although the time span would allow it, I don't know this is the same man all the way through. As the brickworks was a family firm, the initials may have passed down a generation. Thanks for pushing me in his direction, Colin. 

[neilm]

This where census data would be invaluable.

[finsobruce]

Edmonton UDC 1928

Bury St ward
Barrass, Mrs H (Labour) 1522*
Hone, A (Labour) 1301*
Gatward, H (Labour) 1270*
Baddeley, J T (Welfare) 732
Pocock, A (Welfare) 655
Wilkins, F J (Welfare) 655

Church St ward
Middleton, W F (Welfare) 2251*
Payne, F W (Welfare) 2123*
Norman, H W (Welfare) 2097*
Baker, F J (Labour) 1734
Euesden, G D (Labour) 1714
Joslyn, N (Labour) 1654

Fore St ward
Harington, T J (Labour) 1354*
Hearn, Mrs (Labour) 1267*
Long, Mrs (Labour) 1248*
Moss, Mrs (Welfare) 1048
Holland, W J (Welfare) 1033
Mabbott, C W (Welfare) 1015

Several regional papers noted this year that women were now vice chairs of the Urban District Council (Mrs L R Ithell - Lab Church st ward), the Board of Guardians (Mrs Rothwell) and the Education committee ( Mrs C A Tabraham, Lab, Fore St ward). It is also noted that for the first time, one of the Middlesex county councillors elected for Edmonton was a woman. When any woman got elected to lead/chair anything in those days the headline was something along the lines of "Where Women Rule". The Derby Daily Telelgraph pointed out that the vice chairs had tended to succeed to the chair in subsequent years, so their headline was "Where Women May Rule". 

[finsobruce]

Edmonton UDC 1929

Bury St ward
Barrass, H (Labour) 1692*
Preye, W (Labour) 1598*
Evesden, G (Labour) 1547*
Baddeley, J T (Conservative) 624
Copley, C E (Conservative) 619
Clark, W B (Conservative) 591

Church St ward
Sanders, Mrs M (Conservative) 2056*
Cole, A E (Conservative) 2039*
Darling, Mrs S M (Conservative) 2035*
Whittle, G T C (Conservative) 1981*
Albon, G E (Labour) 1814
Swain, E E (Labour) 1801
Edwards, F W (Labour) 1790
Nahon, F C (Labour) 1765

Fore St ward
Perry, G W (Labour) 1353*
Hollywood, A J (Labour)1320*
Joslyn, N (Labour) 1301*
Shaw, J W (Conservative)716
Beeston, C H (Conservative) 687
Brown, J T (Conservative) 679

Welfare is no more and the Conservatives are here. Of the ten Tory candidates  this year, six had stood in recent elections as Welfare candidates and three (Beeston, Darling & Sanders) had been/were councillors. 

[finsobruce]

Edmonton UDC 1930

Bury St ward
Young, Mrs E A (Labour) 1338*
Harvey, H P (Labour) 1271*
Moore, F C (Labour) 1249*
Baddeley, J T (Conservative) 626
Copley, C E (Conservative) 622
Pocock, A (Conservative) 602

Church St ward
Moss, Mrs B E (Conservative) 2017*
Shaw, J W (Conservative) 1965*
Whittle, G J C (Conservative)1947*
Ithell, Mrs L R (Labour) 1794
Nahon, F C (Labour)1660
Swain, E E (Labour) 1637

Fore St ward
Venables, W W (Labour) 1170*
Reid, J (Labour)1165*
Albon, G E (Labour)1134*
Burdett, R J (Conservative)890
Stewart, A T (conservative) 883
Welch, W H (Conservative) 875


Mrs Ithell loses her seat after six years. Two more ex-welfare candidates stand in Tory Colours (Burdett & Pocock).

[finsobruce]

Edmonton UDC 1931

Bury St ward
Barrass, Mrs (Lab/Co-op)1119*
Gatward, H (Lab/Co-op)1024*
Hone, A (Lab/Co-op)1001*
Tott, S T (Lab/Co-op)968*
Copley, C E (Conservative)621
Edmunds, W A (Conservative)579
Smith, Miss E (Conservative)563
Townsend, W (Conservative) 537


Church St ward
Middleton, W F (Conservative + BHP ratepayers)2135*
Payne, F W (Conservative + BHP ratepayers)2062
Norman, HW (Conservative + BHP ratepayers)2039
Joyce, T H (Lab/Co-op)1253
Berridge, L E (Lab/Co-op)1238
Redding, T H (Lab/Co-op)1176


Fore St ward
Harington, T J (Lab/Co-op)1068*
Hearn, Mrs (Lab/Co-op)1033
Long, Mrs (Lab/Co-op)1032
Burdett, R J (Conservative)795
Buckley, Mrs (Conservative)754
Stewart, A T (Conservative)733

BHP is Bush Hill Park - the "posh" part of Edmonton which resembles Enfield Town more than Lower Edmonton. First appearance of Co-op label for Labour candidates. The Co-op party were always significant in Edmonton/Wood Green/Tottenham politics.