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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 1, 2014 13:53:55 GMT
Yarm was sent a writ directing the borough to return two Members to Parliament in 1295. Franciscus de Aula and Radulphus de Estre were duly returned. It was never asked again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 14:17:56 GMT
Ballinasloe in Galway, with a time in Strokestown in Roscommon (where several of the siblings were born). I too have Italian forebears; my late Dad was forever being mistaken for Pakistani when the weather turned hot, but his voice would correct the misunderstanding. My accent though is straight Manc, with the odd bit of Irish idiom. What part of Mcr are you from, CL? I've entirely forgotten. Levenshulme, with a lot of time in North Reddish as my parents were apart. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 14:18:49 GMT
It is an interesting use of the term social liberal because, as he is pro-life and voted against the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill, some political reductionists would term him a social conservative. Not an unusual set of beliefs to expound amongst Merseyside's Liberal MPs down the years! Or North West Labour MPs down the years for that matter. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 1, 2014 23:24:38 GMT
It is an interesting use of the term social liberal because, as he is pro-life and voted against the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill, some political reductionists would term him a social conservative. Yes, I would agree - he tends to be economically more left wing but culturally towards the right, unlike his predecessor. I have no time for him. All talk, always votes with the Government |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 1, 2014 23:26:14 GMT
Curiously enough I was at a Thirsk & Malton do the other week and a guy from Yarm was telling me about this. Apparently, and he is a solicitor and a politico who lives in Yarm, so I suspect that he may have it right, It can only happen if Stockton BC agree to it. Hambleton have agreed to take it, the people have voted to go but its now down to Stockton. The concern is that Yarm is wealthy and Stockton don't want to lose the revenues. Its also very blue, so I can't imagine that James Wharton will be encouraging them to leave. Nice place, Yarm I had lunch with Martin Callanan there last year. Hopefully he will now become Britain's next EU commissioner.....Even the Kippers couldn't moan at that. Yarm was in the old Richmond constituency at one time, when Sir Anthony Kitson was the MP |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 5:29:54 GMT
As David says, it'll take a while for the LGBCE and BCE to do their necessaries, so even if Yarm is allowed to move this week, the administration could take a year....
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Post by neilm on Jun 2, 2014 6:49:43 GMT
The ex-mining area,s of Bassetlaw have wanted to defect to Yorkshire for years and in fact manton pit in Worksop was classed as a yorks pit . At least parts of (possibly the whole of) Sheffield came under British Gas East Midlands back in the day. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 2, 2014 9:13:44 GMT
The ex-mining area,s of Bassetlaw have wanted to defect to Yorkshire for years and in fact manton pit in Worksop was classed as a yorks pit . At least parts of (possibly the whole of) Sheffield came under British Gas East Midlands back in the day. Yes it regards itself as being 'Yorkshire' and shares many attributes including a strong association to the Yorkists and Richard III. The MP tried to gain his remains for Worksop Priory said to be a foundation by Richard. It is also very high church and conforms to what is known as 'The biretta belt of Barnsley'! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 9:15:08 GMT
The location of Derbyshire on a map always bemuses me.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 2, 2014 16:20:57 GMT
The location of Derbyshire on a map always bemuses me. It doesn't seem to have a massively coherent identity other than loathing Nottinghamshire football clubs to different degrees, and that doesn't even hold true for a good quarter of it! |
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Post by cibwr on Jun 5, 2014 9:00:29 GMT
The ex-mining area,s of Bassetlaw have wanted to defect to Yorkshire for years and in fact manton pit in Worksop was classed as a yorks pit . At least parts of (possibly the whole of) Sheffield came under British Gas East Midlands back in the day. The elec and gas board areas were sometimes a bit strange. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 22, 2014 8:46:10 GMT
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jul 22, 2014 9:20:56 GMT
It probably could fit in with Kirklees, but I think the best option is to promote trans-Pennine co-operation by making it part of Manchester. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 22, 2014 9:23:44 GMT
Yes, that'll teach them.
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Post by Zardoz on Jul 22, 2014 16:32:10 GMT
It probably could fit in with Kirklees, but I think the best option is to promote trans-Pennine co-operation by making it part of Manchester. It would no doubt be amusing to see their faces but realistically they could join Wakefield, to which many have said that they feel more affinity, probably they would see themselves as a more sizeable fish in a smaller pool with Pontefract and so on, but I don't see it happening any time soon. What they really want is complete independence and I see no reason why they shouldn't but it would take a massive reorganisation of local government to do it. Places like Ossett and Horbury are also keen for reinstatement of their self autonomy. They don't want to be a part of Wakefield. The same goes for Pontefract and Castleford. Of course, Morley is already linked with Wakefield in the constituency of Morley & Outwood - Outwood being part of Wakefield. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 22, 2014 21:52:16 GMT
Though Morley used to be connected with Batley for many years - now in Kirklees.
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 23, 2014 7:32:21 GMT
Though Morley used to be connected with Batley for many years - now in Kirklees. Yes, they always sounded like a a tired old comedy duo on the halls. |
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Post by neilm on Jul 23, 2014 9:53:20 GMT
It probably could fit in with Kirklees, but I think the best option is to promote trans-Pennine co-operation by making it part of Manchester. It would no doubt be amusing to see their faces but realistically they could join Wakefield, to which many have said that they feel more affinity, probably they would see themselves as a more sizeable fish in a smaller pool with Pontefract and so on, but I don't see it happening any time soon. What they really want is complete independence and I see no reason why they shouldn't but it would take a massive reorganisation of local government to do it. Places like Ossett and Horbury are also keen for reinstatement of their self autonomy. They don't want to be a part of Wakefield. The same goes for Pontefract and Castleford. I wonder if there's more of a feeling for this kind of thing in places that had a well defined UDC that people still associate with? The street name plate on my road says 'Newport Pagnell UDC' and the town is full of them. No one seems to want to be part of Milton Keynes! |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jul 23, 2014 10:05:30 GMT
I think previous local government arrangements are less important than the fact that these places are overshadowed by their larger neighbour, but not to the degree that they're entirely dominated by them. Only a small proportion of the population in Morley or Newport Pagnell will have lived there when they had UDCs and most of them have no particular knowledge of or interest in the specifics of local government organisation. It's a much more visceral thing about not wanting to be dictated to by Leeds/Milton Keynes/those bastards over there.
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