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Post by carlton43 on Jun 5, 2014 15:29:37 GMT
Wonder if the Elvis Bus party will cost UKIP votes. Surely not many and not many more than any other party? |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 5, 2014 16:01:00 GMT
The record of university polls in the United States - where they're common to the point of ubiquity - is very poor, for what that's worth.
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Post by Richard Allen on Jun 5, 2014 16:15:40 GMT
I wonder what the over round is. On my phone so I'll have to check later. I bet it's massive if they've gone out to 1/14 from 1/10. Yes, their pie chart shows all the volume on UKIP (sentiment and less well informed) but most of the money and all the big bets on Conservatives. As they say.....Always follow the money!! It looks like a Conservative win between 2500 and 5000, probably dependent on turnout? At Eastleigh a greater turnout would have put UKIP in, but here I fear a greater turn-out will aid Conservatives? Hope I'm wrong. I agree that greater turnout will aid the Tories here. UKIP's fundamental problem here is that the Tory voting villages, while potentially receptive to some of UKIP's message, are not receptive to parties who turn up because there is a by election. Tory support in these places is built on years of local activism on local issues and can only be successfully challenged by a party who build a local base. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 17:20:54 GMT
The Conservatives haven't successfully retained a seat in a by-election to the House of Commons whilst in government since William Hague won Richmond in 1989. Under the circumstances it should be a significant psychological boost if we do win, now matter how large or small the majority.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 5, 2014 18:47:36 GMT
Good news: There's a BBC 1 Byelection special.
Bad news: It's a special edition of This Week, presented by the execrable Andrew Neil.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 5, 2014 18:53:37 GMT
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 5, 2014 19:19:18 GMT
Good news: There's a BBC 1 Byelection special. Bad news: It's a special edition of This Week, presented by the execrable Andrew Neil. Rather him than Nick Robinson - whose coverage of the elections last month ranks amongst the most disgraceful episodes in the BBC's history  |
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Post by Devonian on Jun 5, 2014 19:26:14 GMT
Good news: There's a BBC 1 Byelection special. Bad news: It's a special edition of This Week, presented by the execrable Andrew Neil. Rather him than Nick Robinson - whose coverage of the elections last month ranks amongst the most disgraceful episodes in the BBC's history What was wrong with it? |
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Post by greenchristian on Jun 5, 2014 19:26:25 GMT
Good news: There's a BBC 1 Byelection special. Bad news: It's a special edition of This Week, presented by the execrable Andrew Neil. Rather him than Nick Robinson - whose coverage of the elections last month ranks amongst the most disgraceful episodes in the BBC's history I fondly remember the days when they had people who were actually capable of presenting election programs. Can they not at least force Peter Snow out of retirement? |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 5, 2014 19:34:18 GMT
Rather him than Nick Robinson - whose coverage of the elections last month ranks amongst the most disgraceful episodes in the BBC's history What was wrong with it? Ludicrous hyping up of UKIP on a handful of unrepresentative results, and laying it on with a trowel about how bad things were for Ed and Labour?? Over a thousand complaints you know, a record for political coverage in modern times - and no, I wasn't one of them  |
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Post by johnloony on Jun 5, 2014 19:36:37 GMT
Rather him than Nick Robinson - whose coverage of the elections last month ranks amongst the most disgraceful episodes in the BBC's history The most disgraceful in my experience was Haltemprice & Howden in 2008, when the BBC's Iain Watson talked and prattled to the camera DURING the declaration itself. When I complained about it, the excuse was that the sound feed from the R.O.'s microphone wasn't working properly, so the director told him to talk over it instead of just turning up the volume on the more distant microphone. What made it worse was that he actually smiled and smirked during the process, as if he thought he was being clever and doing us a favour. Any normal psephologist would have STFU and told the director to STFU. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 19:53:06 GMT
Rather him than Nick Robinson - whose coverage of the elections last month ranks amongst the most disgraceful episodes in the BBC's history What was wrong with it? It was balanced. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 5, 2014 20:05:56 GMT
It was anything but.
I repeat, it didn't attract a record number of complaints about the Beeb's political coverage for nothing.
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Post by kvasir on Jun 5, 2014 20:20:57 GMT
It was only "balanced" if you have an internalised negative view of Labour or indeed I suppose and internalised positive view of smaller parties.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 20:22:51 GMT
The labour result was poor and adequately described as such. In London it was very good, and that was also mentioned.
Don't shoot the messenger. The victory of the hard to far right was the biggest story of the night.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 20:58:31 GMT
I would like to congratulate Labour for coming second in a national election and excellent council election results. Ed had shown his leadership qualities and has shown he has what it takes to be leader. The Labour campaign was electric and captured the imagination of the people.
When the Cons were in opposition Labour always spoke about getting above the 40% mark in council elections. Labour should be getting above or at least the 40% mark as they are against two parties of govt.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 21:00:56 GMT
Mike Smithson @msmithsonpb
Fieldwork for final Newark Survation poll carried out on MON & TUES. It is NOT an exit poll
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Final Newark Survation poll just published with changes on last week's poll from firm
CON 42+6
UKIP 27-1
LAB 22-5
LD 4-2
GRN 2
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 21:08:49 GMT
The labour result was poor and adequately described as such. In London it was very good, and that was also mentioned. Don't shoot the messenger. The victory of the hard to far right was the biggest story of the night. Great post. Whinging because the national broadcaster isn't a cheerleader, like moaning about there being not enough legislation, is very Labour. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 5, 2014 21:11:56 GMT
It'll be interesting to see whether there was any late swing in the last two days, which none of these polls would have been able to pick up.
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