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Post by greenhert on Mar 3, 2020 20:10:22 GMT
Here is what constituencies in South London could look like under a new review with 650 seats: Croydon North Croydon South Croydon East (successor to Croydon Central) Kingston & Wimbledon Richmond-upon-Thames Mitcham Wallington & West Croydon (new seat) Surbiton & Malden Sutton, Cheam & Carshalton Morden & St Helier (new seat) Twickenham
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Post by islington on Mar 15, 2020 12:59:26 GMT
I'm not sure of the correct format for reporting this, but I've spotted a discrepancy between the data on Boundary Assistant and the numbers in the BCE report. This concerns wards in Tonbridge & Malling District in Kent. On BA the wards of Wateringbury, W Malling and Wrotham are given with electorates of 4794, 3273 and 1540 respectively. In the BCE report the respective numbers are 1540, 4794, 3273, i.e. the same numbers but attached to different wards. I am pretty sure that the BCE is correct. Yes, I noticed that myself earlier today. There is a mismatch between the codes used by the BCE for these wards and the ones used by Ordnance Survey. Once I have checked which is correct I'll amend accordingly. Kevin, I'm sorry to trouble you but I've just noticed that in reinstating the site you've also reinstated the incorrect electorates for three wards in Tonbridge & Malling (see above our correspondence about this in the dim and distant days of 2016).
Great to have the site back, though.
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Post by kevinlarkin on Mar 15, 2020 17:52:44 GMT
Kevin, I'm sorry to trouble you but I've just noticed that in reinstating the site you've also reinstated the incorrect electorates for three wards in Tonbridge & Malling (see above our correspondence about this in the dim and distant days of 2016). Great to have the site back, though.
Sorry about that, I must have fixed it only in the front end and not the back end database last time. Fixed in both places now. You may need to clear your browser's cache to force the updated file to download. If you have any saved plans with these wards you would need to open them and switch the wards to another constituency and back again to pick up the corrected electorates.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 15, 2020 18:01:50 GMT
There is a similar issue with the electorates for Bushey Park and Bushey North being the wrong way around - no biggie
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Post by kevinlarkin on Mar 15, 2020 20:38:14 GMT
There is a similar issue with the electorates for Bushey Park and Bushey North being the wrong way around - no biggie Did you ever contact the Boundary Commission for England about this error? They have repeated it in the polling district breakdown and the Final Recommendations I think I might just leave this as it is to remain in line with the source data, even though I agree with you that it is incorrect. After all, it is not as if you would ever want to split Bushey between two different constituencies.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 15, 2020 21:00:58 GMT
There is a similar issue with the electorates for Bushey Park and Bushey North being the wrong way around - no biggie Did you ever contact the Boundary Commission for England about this error? They have repeated it in the polling district breakdown and the Final Recommendations I think I might just leave this as it is to remain in line with the source data, even though I agree with you that it is incorrect. After all, it is not as if you would ever want to split Bushey between two different constituencies. On the contrary - the new Bushey North (ie not the one on your map) would make an excellent addition to Watford borough constituency, replacin the Three Rivers wards currently included (assuming we stick with 650 seats) I didn't realise the BC figures were wrong, although I have a very vague recolection I raised the question with you previously and you said the same..
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Post by kevinlarkin on May 2, 2020 9:20:12 GMT
A revived version of the Census Statistics page is now available on my website . I have also added a couple of additional options to the region selection in Plan Builder. You may need to press Ctrl+F5 (PC) or Cmd+R (Mac) on that page to see the new options. boundaryassistant.org/census/index.html
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 2, 2020 9:31:25 GMT
A revived version of the Census Statistics page is now available on my website . I have also added a couple of additional options to the region selection in Plan Builder. You may need to press Ctrl+F5 (PC) or Cmd+R (Mac) on that page to see the new options. boundaryassistant.org/census/index.htmlLondon Polling districts!
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Post by iain on May 2, 2020 10:54:24 GMT
A revived version of the Census Statistics page is now available on my website . I have also added a couple of additional options to the region selection in Plan Builder. You may need to press Ctrl+F5 (PC) or Cmd+R (Mac) on that page to see the new options. boundaryassistant.org/census/index.htmlLondon Polling districts!Β How do you see them?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 2, 2020 11:05:29 GMT
London Polling districts!Β How do you see them? It's one of the options on the drop-down list of regions when you create a new plan
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Post by European Lefty on May 2, 2020 11:09:36 GMT
Plus "England all wards" - I can finally use proper regions instead of this "Yorkshire and the Humber" bollocks!
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Post by bjornhattan on May 2, 2020 11:24:43 GMT
A revived version of the Census Statistics page is now available on my website . I have also added a couple of additional options to the region selection in Plan Builder. You may need to press Ctrl+F5 (PC) or Cmd+R (Mac) on that page to see the new options. boundaryassistant.org/census/index.htmlThat is excellent - even better than the old version. I particularly like the top 20 listings, but have you considered giving a bottom 20 too? That might be useful for variables like "Born in the UK" or "No qualifications". The one problem is that in many cases all the bottom values would be 0, so you might have to restrict it to only being available for some variables.
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Post by piperdave on May 2, 2020 22:32:43 GMT
Are there any plans to update Plan Builder to include more recent electorate stats and new ward boundaries? And perhaps Scottish Parliament (and Welsh Senedd) boundaries?
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Post by Penddu on May 3, 2020 7:09:07 GMT
Are there any plans to update Plan Builder to include more recent electorate stats and new ward boundaries? And perhaps Scottish Parliament (and Welsh Senedd) boundaries? Welsh Senedd has same boundaries as UK Parliament....at least for now.
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Post by greenhert on May 3, 2020 10:44:14 GMT
Are there any plans to update Plan Builder to include more recent electorate stats and new ward boundaries? And perhaps Scottish Parliament (and Welsh Senedd) boundaries? In this instance Plan Builder would also need to be updated to account for reorganisation in Dorset and the creation of new council areas from mergers of old councils (i.e. the authorities of East Suffolk, Somerset West & Taunton, and West Suffolk).
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piperdave
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Post by piperdave on May 3, 2020 11:08:48 GMT
Are there any plans to update Plan Builder to include more recent electorate stats and new ward boundaries? And perhaps Scottish Parliament (and Welsh Senedd) boundaries? Welsh Senedd has same boundaries as UK Parliament....at least for now. So they are (apart from one small difference I found at Pontsticill). But you might as well be prepared for the divergence when it comes. And dream up alternative arrangements in the meantime - just a bit of fun!
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piperdave
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Post by piperdave on May 3, 2020 11:13:05 GMT
Are there any plans to update Plan Builder to include more recent electorate stats and new ward boundaries? And perhaps Scottish Parliament (and Welsh Senedd) boundaries? In this instance Plan Builder would also need to be updated to account for reorganisation in Dorset and the creation of new council areas from mergers of old councils (i.e. the authorities of East Suffolk, Somerset West & Taunton, and West Suffolk). Absolutely. I've no idea how big a task that would be but up-to-date boundaries and figures would be a help.
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Post by kevinlarkin on May 3, 2020 12:10:13 GMT
In this instance Plan Builder would also need to be updated to account for reorganisation in Dorset and the creation of new council areas from mergers of old councils (i.e. the authorities of East Suffolk, Somerset West & Taunton, and West Suffolk). Absolutely. I've no idea how big a task that would be but up-to-date boundaries and figures would be a help. I maintain a database which includes local authority and ward boundaries and is used to generate the boundary files for Plan Builder. This is updated each year with data from the Ordnance Survey, ONS and the statistical authorities for Scotland and Northern Ireland. It has the 2017 Scottish wards and the merged authorities in Dorset, Somerset and Suffolk. As far as the review of the Scottish Parliament's constituencies is concerned I don't really see the need for a Plan Builder option because: 1) the multi-member STV wards in Scotland are too large to be used as building blocks in most areas. The consequent splitting of wards by the commission appears to be on a largely arbitrary basis with little or no reference to smaller units. It is a great shame that Scotland did not follow the approach of Northern Ireland when devising STV wards, which was to create single member wards and then aggregate them to multi-member electoral areas. 2) under the AMS electoral system equality of electorates between constituencies is less of an issue (although the Germans take it very seriously which is why you get Wahlkreise with names like Brandenburg an der Havel β Potsdam-Mittelmark I β Havelland III β Teltow-FlΓ€ming I), because the top up seats can mitigate the differences.
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Post by π΄ββ οΈ Neath West π΄ββ οΈ on May 3, 2020 14:29:25 GMT
A revived version of the Census Statistics page is now available on my website . I have also added a couple of additional options to the region selection in Plan Builder. You may need to press Ctrl+F5 (PC) or Cmd+R (Mac) on that page to see the new options. boundaryassistant.org/census/index.htmlThat's brilliant! Wishlist item: being able to change the colours β the religion question in Wales correlates strongly with voting intention β it's odd to see Christian pick out our best wards in green and odder still to have No Religion pick out Labour's in blue.
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Post by π΄ββ οΈ Neath West π΄ββ οΈ on May 3, 2020 14:32:43 GMT
Also really good to see the 650 +/-5% figures in there by default, kevinlarkin β but there's a typo in the lower bound: it should be 65,533, not 65,553.
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