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Post by Merseymike on Apr 7, 2014 23:43:10 GMT
Interesting - and suggests that the PQ might be replaced federally by the NDP in terms of votes for the left. They traditionally haven't fought campaigns at this level.
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Post by Sibboleth on Apr 8, 2014 0:20:52 GMT
Early results coming in. And it looks like a landslide.
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Post by Sibboleth on Apr 8, 2014 1:02:45 GMT
All hail the new PLQ government. Which will probably end in comic fashion.
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Post by Andrew_S on Apr 8, 2014 1:14:35 GMT
Sibboleth's first sentence on this thread: "It looks almost certain that a snap election will shortly be called in Quebec, as the minority PQ government feels it is in an election winning position."Whoops — looks like the PQ made a slight error of judgement there.  |
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Post by Sibboleth on Apr 8, 2014 1:44:16 GMT
Haha, yes. The PQ campaign was one of the most incompetent in Canadian history... which is saying something.
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Post by Sibboleth on Apr 8, 2014 1:47:03 GMT
Marois is in serious personal electoral trouble: locked in a very tight race and currently a handful of votes behind.
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Post by Andrew_S on Apr 8, 2014 2:10:10 GMT
Haha, yes. The PQ campaign was one of the most incompetent in Canadian history... which is saying something. I haven't been following the election until tonight. Is it possible to summarise why the campaign went so wrong for the PQ? |
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Post by iainbhx on Apr 8, 2014 6:21:14 GMT
Marois is in serious personal electoral trouble: locked in a very tight race and currently a handful of votes behind. And she lost in the end. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 8, 2014 7:34:54 GMT
Marois is in serious personal electoral trouble: locked in a very tight race and currently a handful of votes behind. And she lost in the end. I bet Charest is crying with vengeance-tinged laughter at that magnificent news. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 8, 2014 7:45:46 GMT
Francoise David (QS) and Helene David (PLQ) become the first pair of sisters to sit for different parties in the assembly.
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Post by Sibboleth on Apr 8, 2014 17:58:32 GMT
Is it possible to summarise why the campaign went so wrong for the PQ? Everything went wrong for them because they suck. But the turning point was PQ candidate - and extremely powerful media baron - Pierre Karl Péladeau went on an extended rant about how Quebec needed to be a free country etc, etc, etc, which inevitably raised the prospect of a third referendum (PKP not being a normal candidate), and it was all aboard the failboat from that point on. The 1995 referendum is not remembered with much affection (even amongst people who voted 'oui') and the issue is kind of toxic at present. They were also clearly hurt by their crudely racist campaign (which was added to by gaffes galore by candidates and high profile supporters and a very nasty business wrt trying to stop non-Quebecois students from voting) which give further incentive to minority voters to turn out and to vote PLQ without actually helping the PQ gain any Francophone votes. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Apr 8, 2014 18:10:04 GMT
For the amusement of all, results in the riding of D'Arcy McGee:
David Birnbaum, PLQ, 26,883, 92.1%
Elizabeth Smart, CAQ, 716, 2.4%
Suzanne Dufresne, QS, 604, 2.1%
Eliane Pion, PQ, 524, 1.8%
Abraham Weizfeld, PVQ, 456, 1.5%
PLQ majority 26,167 (89.7%)
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Post by Sibboleth on Apr 8, 2014 18:12:55 GMT
Five other Montreal ridings gave over 80% to the PLQ: Nelligan, Robert-Baldwin, Jacques-Cartier, Saint-Laurent, and Westmount-Saint Louis.
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Post by Sibboleth on Apr 8, 2014 18:19:09 GMT
A notable defeat for the PQ came in Ungava, which covers the far north of the province. It was created in 1981 and has been PQ ever since, despite voting against independence in 1995. It has large Cree and Inuit populations who have tended not to vote much in provincial elections. Be interesting to see if the loss of Ungava was down to higher turnout from either of those groups, or related to the large swings seen in the neighbouring Abitibi region.
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Post by Sibboleth on Apr 8, 2014 18:41:59 GMT
The PQ's godawful results in Montreal are also worth noting. The party is down to just four seats there now (only one more than QS!) and two of those were rather close: a 4pt majority over the PLQ in Rosemont and a 4pt majority over the QS in Hochelaga-Maisonneuve.
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Post by Andrew_S on Apr 8, 2014 18:46:45 GMT
The PQ's godawful results in Montreal are also worth noting. The party is down to just four seats there now (only one more than QS!) and two of those were rather close: a 4pt majority over the PLQ in Rosemont and a 4pt majority over the QS in Hochelaga-Maisonneuve. The Liberals got over 90% in some ridings in the Montreal area which is unusual in a Western-style democracy. |
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Post by finsobruce on Apr 8, 2014 19:37:57 GMT
For the amusement of all, results in the riding of D'Arcy McGee: David Birnbaum, PLQ, 26,883, 92.1% Elizabeth Smart, CAQ, 716, 2.4% Suzanne Dufresne, QS, 604, 2.1% Eliane Pion, PQ, 524, 1.8% Abraham Weizfeld, PVQ, 456, 1.5% PLQ majority 26,167 (89.7%) No danger of a re count request there I don't think. Has it always been that safe?? |
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Post by iainbhx on Apr 8, 2014 20:37:44 GMT
For the amusement of all, results in the riding of D'Arcy McGee: David Birnbaum, PLQ, 26,883, 92.1% Elizabeth Smart, CAQ, 716, 2.4% Suzanne Dufresne, QS, 604, 2.1% Eliane Pion, PQ, 524, 1.8% Abraham Weizfeld, PVQ, 456, 1.5% PLQ majority 26,167 (89.7%) No danger of a re count request there I don't think. Has it always been that safe?? Heavily Jewish, massively anglophone riding, yes, it's always been a very safe riding for the Libs unless there has been another anglophone intervention. |
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Post by Merseymike on Apr 9, 2014 0:58:40 GMT
Definitely time for the NDP to start organising to contest local elections. Figures such as that aren't good for democracy and as Quebec is traditionally a left-liberal state, it makes sense for the NDP to contest the elections seriously.
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Post by neilm on Apr 9, 2014 6:56:32 GMT
D'Arcy McGee is surely a pornstar name.
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