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Post by carlton43 on Apr 30, 2014 21:45:54 GMT
Go on then. What is your forecast of the actual EU Poll result? Eee, I hate making predictions this far out. As things stand, I'll go for: UKIP 30% Lab 29% Con 20% LD 11% Greens 4% others 6% Thanks for the response CL. Not a lot to disagree with there as I see it now. |
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Post by greenchristian on Apr 30, 2014 22:58:29 GMT
Go on then. What is your forecast of the actual EU Poll result? Eee, I hate making predictions this far out. As things stand, I'll go for: UKIP 30% Lab 29% Con 20% LD 11% Greens 4% others 6% You really think that the Green vote share will crash to its lowest level since 1994? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 23:32:47 GMT
I am not sure, but I think you are being pushed out of the picture right now - as I say, it is what I think at the moment, and that may change as we get closer to the election. I still see you winning seats in a couple of the regions.
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Post by Pimpernal on May 1, 2014 6:21:49 GMT
As we're doing predictions, mine is:
Labour - 30%
UKIP - 24%
Cons - 20%
Lib Dems - 11%
Greens 6%
An Independence From Europe - 5%
Others 4%
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Post by neilm on May 1, 2014 6:25:14 GMT
An Independence from Europe on 5%?!
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 1, 2014 6:36:52 GMT
Labour - 30% UKIP - 24% Cons - 20% Lib Dems - 11% Greens 6% An Independence From Europe - 5% Others 4% What polling company is this? |
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Post by Devonian on May 1, 2014 6:40:27 GMT
Labour - 30% UKIP - 24% Cons - 20% Lib Dems - 11% Greens 6% An Independence From Europe - 5% Others 4% What polling company is this? I'm guessing that that's Pimpernal's estimate of the result and that he's estimating that 5% will be UKIP voters voting for Natrass by mistake |
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Post by swindonlad on May 1, 2014 6:43:09 GMT
An Independence from Europe on 5%?! Only assume it's confusion with UKIP (or a typo), for such a minority party to get to almost with the greens (long established, well known party, is, either a major triumph for them, or, something for Farage to worry about. Other than this board & confusion over the description, can't remember them being reported elsewhere, so can't see how, in their own right, they get to 5% |
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Post by neilm on May 1, 2014 6:45:32 GMT
Aah I've realised it's Pimp's assessment of the result.
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Post by Devonian on May 1, 2014 6:47:59 GMT
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Post by Pimpernal on May 1, 2014 7:23:58 GMT
I think a lot of people will get confused and vote for them as soon as they see the ballot paper. Their sub-heading or whatever it's called is UK Independence Now. A shocking deception of the voting British Public that will serious hamper the UKIP vote, and deny them the earthquake that could have led to a quicker referendum on the issue. One man's vanity has been put before a cause he claims to believe in.
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Post by Richard Allen on May 1, 2014 7:34:50 GMT
Perhaps we should have a separate thread for predictions otherwise this thread could become rather confusing.
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Post by Andrew_S on May 1, 2014 8:14:50 GMT
I think a lot of people will get confused and vote for them as soon as they see the ballot paper. Their sub-heading or whatever it's called is UK Independence Now. A shocking deception of the voting British Public that will serious hamper the UKIP vote, and deny them the earthquake that could have led to a quicker referendum on the issue. One man's vanity has been put before a cause he claims to believe in. It's such a bad error by the Electoral Commission that I can't help wondering whether there are some anti-UKIP elements who deliberately allowed it through. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 1, 2014 8:56:00 GMT
I think a lot of people will get confused and vote for them as soon as they see the ballot paper. Their sub-heading or whatever it's called is UK Independence Now. A shocking deception of the voting British Public that will serious hamper the UKIP vote, and deny them the earthquake that could have led to a quicker referendum on the issue. One man's vanity has been put before a cause he claims to believe in. I think some will do that but given that a tiny proportion of people (at least outside the West MIdlands) will deliberately vote for them, then you're suggesting that 1 in 6 UKIP voters will be confused in this way. I don't think it will be more than about 1 in 10 (which is bad enough of course). The inclusion of party emblems since the Literal Democrat days helps |
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Post by Andrew_S on May 1, 2014 9:07:38 GMT
I think a lot of people will get confused and vote for them as soon as they see the ballot paper. Their sub-heading or whatever it's called is UK Independence Now. A shocking deception of the voting British Public that will serious hamper the UKIP vote, and deny them the earthquake that could have led to a quicker referendum on the issue. One man's vanity has been put before a cause he claims to believe in. I think some will do that but given that a tiny proportion of people (at least outside the West MIdlands) will deliberately vote for them, then you're suggesting that 1 in 6 UKIP voters will be confused in this way. I don't think it will be more than about 1 in 10 (which is bad enough of course). The inclusion of party emblems since the Literal Democrat days helps Maybe UKIP could do some leaflets informing supporters not to be confused by Nattrass's party. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2014 10:36:24 GMT
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Post by carlton43 on May 1, 2014 10:58:07 GMT
Pure supposition aka bollocks. Well, the 5% might be bollocks but I think they will have an effect....2% perhaps I am amazed UKIP did not immediately go to The High Court and petition for removal of that form of words. Is it just a vanity project by the twerp Nattrass or does anyone suspect he was put up to it and funded as a spoiling exercise? I could easily be persuaded. Interesting to have an examination of bank accounts!! |
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Post by Andrew_S on May 1, 2014 11:10:15 GMT
Well, the 5% might be bollocks but I think they will have an effect....2% perhaps I am amazed UKIP did not immediately go to The High Court and petition for removal of that form of words. Is it just a vanity project by the twerp Nattrass or does anyone suspect he was put up to it and funded as a spoiling exercise? I could easily be persuaded. Interesting to have an examination of bank accounts!! The only thing I can think of is that UKIP suspect it might have generated more publicity for Nattrass, and as we keep seeing with various UKIP candidates even bad publicity seems to increase the support of parties apart from the main two. |
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Post by carlton43 on May 1, 2014 11:33:16 GMT
I am amazed UKIP did not immediately go to The High Court and petition for removal of that form of words. Is it just a vanity project by the twerp Nattrass or does anyone suspect he was put up to it and funded as a spoiling exercise? I could easily be persuaded. Interesting to have an examination of bank accounts!! I have to be honest Carlton, when I heard them complain about it I kind of figured that the next step would be the High Court. On the face of it they would have had a strong case. It's misleading and unfair. But in the circumstances and, unfair and unreasonable though it is. Thoroughly disreputable and despicable though I may view it.......I hope it works and UKIP lose 5% of their vote  This is war, after all. Having shown my hypocrisy there it still won't stop me supporting UKIP's arguments and complaints afterwards, if it comes to pass No, AC, that is not hypocrisy, it is naked self interest and all part of the rough and tumble of practical politics. Short of an immediate petition to the High Court I see it as difficult to combat without confusing the electorate further or granting oxygen to the Nattrass faction. If it was a spoiler it is proving effective. I think that I might fund a private investigation if leading or funding the party.......just to see what we see! If we discovered it was a spoiler by another party actually guilty of real hypocrisy....Wow, what an effect on the GE outcome!! A rare case when the phrase '...to be honest' was correctly used!! |
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Post by Richard Allen on May 1, 2014 12:24:28 GMT
Well, the 5% might be bollocks but I think they will have an effect....2% perhaps I am amazed UKIP did not immediately go to The High Court and petition for removal of that form of words. Is it just a vanity project by the twerp Nattrass or does anyone suspect he was put up to it and funded as a spoiling exercise? I could easily be persuaded. Interesting to have an examination of bank accounts!! UKIP's case would have been laughed out of court. What they needed to do was challenge the descriptions when, or shortly after, they were registered. Once the a nomination(s) has been accepted as valid there is nothing that can be done unless you can demonstrate that the RO(s) acted incorrectly which they clearly did not. |
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