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Post by Merseymike on Nov 8, 2013 12:19:15 GMT
But the results for the LibDems this week are really atrocious. Clearly they are going to focus on their strongholds and areas where they clearly challenge, but having these sort of losses can't be seen as encouraging
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Post by libfozzy on Nov 8, 2013 12:42:20 GMT
It is - actually about 15% of their vote tonight came from there...... It's about to move to the new Faenor/Padarn ward however, which will make it a non-Force in Ceredigion politics for the first time in, oh, about 30 years. The result tonight was a 6% swing from Plaid to the Lib Dems. And judging by certain faces at the count, Plaid had not been expecting that. The Lib Dems, as admitted above, put up a paper candidate in 2012, and mounted a large target campaign this year. You want to spin a 6% swing as earth shattering? Really?! Wasn't spinning it as Earth shattering. I was saying it's positive forward progress for us in our worst ward (and your best) in the County. Plaid's vote share fell by almost 10% from the average of last times vote share. With no Pantycelyn, this ward will be extremely competitive in 2017. Plaid can't really spin this as a success. Your vote was down, you got out campaigned and we gained ground on you. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 8, 2013 14:22:07 GMT
The Harrow-on-the-Hill count only began at 2 PM.
The time estimate of 1 hour for the count should be filed with all those returning officers who tell broadcasters the result will be out before 1 AM.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 8, 2013 14:47:52 GMT
Early steer from the Harrow Observer:
"14.39pm: We are hearing that the turnout has been quite low, and that we could be in for a tight race between the Tories and Labour."
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 8, 2013 14:58:48 GMT
Harrow on the Hill: Labour hold.
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Post by Tim M on Nov 8, 2013 15:01:09 GMT
From @johnpaulshammas (The Harrow Observer)
"Glen Hearnden (Labour) has been announced as the winner of the Harrow On The Hill by-election"
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 8, 2013 15:03:12 GMT
HARROW Harrow on the Hill
Glen HEARNDEN (The Labour Party Candidate) 991
Stephen LEWIS (The Conservative Party Candidate) 836
Eileen KINNEAR (Independent) 308
Gajan IDAIKKADAR (Harrow First) 173
Jeremy ZEID (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) 168
Gaye BRANCH (Liberal Democrat) 70
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 8, 2013 15:13:03 GMT
Nice - and holding that seat in such chaotic circumstances bodes well for next year. Indeed, there were a few tricky Labour defences in that lot yesterday - but all were accomplished comfortably. Generally a very good set of results for us  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 15:43:59 GMT
LD score ha ha ha less that 10% of their last vote in a GE turnout ....
on that score the demise of Harrow first will not take long
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Post by AdminSTB on Nov 8, 2013 15:51:33 GMT
Seems like Kinnear has maybe cost the Tories a seat in Harrow again. If she intends to stand again in May, any chance the Tories might choose to re-adopt her?
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 8, 2013 18:04:40 GMT
Only noticed a short time ago that Elvis had actually beaten TUSC in one of the Nottingham seats. Ouch!
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 8, 2013 18:22:48 GMT
Aberystwyth Bronglais Plaid 204 Lib Dem 128 Ind 17 Rejoice! |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 8, 2013 18:23:50 GMT
Corby-Kingswood: Lab 722 UKIP 246 Con 154 LD 18 Turnout 21.5% Just put that rejoicing on hold.  |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 8, 2013 18:33:52 GMT
LD score ha ha ha less that 10% of their last vote in a GE turnout .... on that score the demise of Harrow first will not take long Can anyone translate? |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 8, 2013 18:43:42 GMT
The second part is fairly obvious, I would have thought (and yes, I agree with the assessment) As for the opening part - "LibDems got less than 10% of their 2010 vote, albeit that was a GE turnout" will surely suffice. Are you one of those who used to take the mickey out of Prescott?  |
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Post by erlend on Nov 8, 2013 18:56:58 GMT
I think Harrow LDs have clearly retrenched. I suspect the expenses for this campaign may be minimal. Don't know how many wards to but clearly not this. I suspect some of the Harrow connections may have more of an idea how many wards have seen LD leaflets in the last few months.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 19:09:51 GMT
the thing is of course their votes would go somewhere be it Labour or others. The Harrow result was notable for the tory vote being solid, little impact of UKIP in the type of ward they would do better in outside of London and lack of a performance by Harrow First.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 8, 2013 19:44:47 GMT
What do you mean by that? Harrow on the Hill is a type of ward which wouldn;t really exist outside London, at least I cannot think of anywhere outside London that remotely resembles it. What makes you think it is the type of ward where UKIP should do well?
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Post by erlend on Nov 8, 2013 19:53:18 GMT
I think it is comfortably middle class isn't it.
Just that UKIP haven't targetted the midle class Indian demographic. Actually a group not enormously sympathetic to further immigration though.
Or have I gor the analysis wrong. I have only been there about once, years ago.
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 8, 2013 20:00:29 GMT
10 by-elections, all holds. Somewhat unusual, even if predictable in this case.
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