The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 27, 2013 10:59:03 GMT
Come the 1987 GE, Labour in Maidstone would have been two (or was it one?) votes away from saving their deposit under the old 12.50% rule.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jul 27, 2013 11:10:17 GMT
At the 1979 election, the Liberal candidate who lost his deposit (< 12.5%) in the Bromsgrove and Redditch constituency got more votes than the elected MP for the Western Isles.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2013 20:52:48 GMT
What is the record for the highest number of votes cast for an unsuccessful candidate in a UK parliamentary election? I can think of Eric Moonman's 43,765 votes in Billericay for Labour in 1970.
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Post by Andrew_S on Jul 27, 2013 21:49:47 GMT
I think I have spotted the cause. A recount! Labour got 12.48% of the vote and therefore just lost their deposit. Thanks, well-spotted. I can't imagine a returning officer these days delaying a declaration until the next day because of a candidate trying to save their deposit. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2013 16:31:47 GMT
What is the record for the highest number of votes cast for an unsuccessful candidate in a UK parliamentary election? I can think of Eric Moonman's 43,765 votes in Billericay for Labour in 1970. Have I guessed correctly? Was it Mr. Moonman? |
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Post by Andrew_S on Jul 30, 2013 20:57:55 GMT
In 1983 the Conservatives polled 44% in Great Britain to the nearest whole percentage by just 2,242 votes according to my figures.
Total votes in GB were 29,907,450 and so 43.5% would have been 13,009,740.75.
They polled 13,011,982 = 43.51%.
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Post by Andrew_S on Jul 30, 2013 22:13:41 GMT
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Post by Andrew_S on Jul 31, 2013 2:11:39 GMT
What is the record for the highest number of votes cast for an unsuccessful candidate in a UK parliamentary election? I can think of Eric Moonman's 43,765 votes in Billericay for Labour in 1970. Have I guessed correctly? Was it Mr. Moonman?
I don't know for sure but I'd be amazed if that isn't the correct answer.Hang on — just checked Romford in 1935. I should have thought of this earlier because I typed these figures in myself a couple of years ago: Romford, 1935: Lab: 55,723 Con: 47,416 www.politicsresources.net/area/uk/ge35/i16.htm |
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Post by Andrew_S on Jul 31, 2013 2:17:58 GMT
Come the 1987 GE, Labour in Maidstone would have been two (or was it one?) votes away from saving their deposit under the old 12.50% rule. I think it would have been two votes because you had to get more than 12.5% and one vote more would have been exactly 12.5%. |
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Post by mrhell on Aug 1, 2013 19:24:27 GMT
Reminded about this by the Redcar post on the defections thread.
I can't remember the exact year but Newcastle City council went NOC for one day in the late 70s/early 80s (a Labour death followed by some by-elections the next day).
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Post by Andrew_S on Aug 5, 2013 22:52:16 GMT
In both 1983 and 1987 Hackney North & Stoke Newington was the 568th seat to be declared.
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Post by Andrew_S on Aug 6, 2013 23:09:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2013 9:02:18 GMT
Northern Ireland 1987   |
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Post by erlend on Aug 7, 2013 17:04:50 GMT
Of course electorates have grown since then. Although turnouts have shrunk.
Didn't N Ireland have 2 seaters in rural areas. Like Down or Antrim.
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Post by Andrew_S on Aug 7, 2013 23:50:09 GMT
Does anyone know what the correct result was for Beverley & Holderness in 1997? About half the references seem to say the Tory majority was 811, the other half 1,211...
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 8, 2013 0:20:27 GMT
Does anyone know what the correct result was for Beverley & Holderness in 1997? About half the references seem to say the Tory majority was 811, the other half 1,211... A PA News error I think. Correct votes for Norman John O'Neill (Labour) was 20,418 as given on page 9 of the Return of Election Expenses (HC 260 1998-99) and on page 12 of "Britain Votes 6" by Rallings and Thrasher. Incorrect figure of 20,818 probably has wider circulation incl Times Guide. |
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Post by mick745 on Aug 8, 2013 20:20:35 GMT
The 'notional' result in the three constituencies in 1992 was as follows:
Buckingham Con 25164; Lab 4881; Lib/SDP 10949
MK NE Con 20795; Lab 6833; Lib/SDP 14417; Oth 810
MK SW Con 21599; Lab 13450; Lib/SDP 9965
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Post by mick745 on Aug 8, 2013 21:01:55 GMT
For each election I am calculating the number of reelected MPs, those no reelected (and how many retirements and defeated), the number of new MPs, retreads and first time electees. For 2010 this was 418 reelected, 232 new (5 retreads with 227 first timers), 225 not reelected (149 retired and 76 defeated).
I have gone back to 1970 currently, the most reelectees was in Oct 74 with 589, there has been only one occasion where the figure was below 400 (399 in 1997).
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Post by Andrew_S on Aug 8, 2013 21:27:01 GMT
The 'notional' result in the three constituencies in 1992 was as follows: Buckingham Con 25164; Lab 4881; Lib/SDP 10949 MK NE Con 20795; Lab 6833; Lib/SDP 14417; Oth 810 MK SW Con 21599; Lab 13450; Lib/SDP 9965 Where did you find the figures? The ITN Guide to the 1992 election has the percentages but not votes. One problem with the figures is that the Green vote of 810 votes in Milton Keynes in 1987 wouldn't actually have been concentrated wholly in Milton Keynes North East. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Aug 9, 2013 21:40:49 GMT
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