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Post by johnloony on Aug 11, 2024 14:27:09 GMT
I keep forgetting the surname of Leigh Ingham (Stafford, Lab), who for clarity is female, then remembering it again. Indeed, I did it again just now.. The former chairman of Park Hill Residents Association was John Ingman. It was easy to remember because it was only a G away from something else. |
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Post by heslingtonian on Aug 11, 2024 14:49:32 GMT
Anyone know what the following MPs have in common : Chris Ward (Brighton, Kempton & Peacehaven, Lab), Mike Martin (Tunbridge Wells, LD), David Reed (Exmouth & E Exeter, C) ? All former Royal Marines? |
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Post by batman on Aug 11, 2024 14:50:46 GMT
That has made me shudder as it has caused me to remember something. During my days as a musical director (paid) in amateur dramatics, I once had to play the piano for a sort of boys' club hymn. The words were appalling doggerel written by an Ingman. Nowadays I would have declined & asked them to find another pianist.
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Post by batman on Aug 11, 2024 14:54:24 GMT
Anyone know what the following MPs have in common : Chris Ward (Brighton, Kempton & Peacehaven, Lab), Mike Martin (Tunbridge Wells, LD), David Reed (Exmouth & E Exeter, C) ? All former Royal Marines? not that I'm aware. The answer was alluded to earlier; they all have the same forenames (even if abbreviated) & surnames of past but postwar MPs. Michael Martin we mostly remember very well, but the other two namesakes were rather obscure : David Reed was Labour MP for Sedgefield from 1970 until the constituency was abolished (temporarily of course) in 1974, Christopher Ward won the Swindon by-election for the Conservatives in 1969 but lost the seat back to Labour's David Stoddart in the general election the next year. He tried unsuccessfully to return to parliament subsequently. There are other examples, e.g. Gareth Thomas (Harrow W, Lab), or maybe he's the only other one. |
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Post by greatkingrat on Aug 11, 2024 15:22:03 GMT
Others include John Smith, Michael Foster, Alan Williams, James Callaghan.
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Post by batman on Aug 11, 2024 16:12:47 GMT
yes but there are no current MPs of that name. I'm referring to current MPs only at the moment.
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Post by greatkingrat on Aug 11, 2024 16:46:51 GMT
Other current ones are
Paul Holmes (Con, Hamble Valley) and Paul Holmes (LD, Chesterfield, 2001-2010)
David Taylor (Lab, Hemel Hempstead) and David Taylor (Lab, North West Leicestershire, 1997-2009)
Mike Wood (Con, Kingswinford and South Staffordshire) and Mike Wood (Lab, Batley and Spen, 1997-2015)
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Post by batman on Aug 11, 2024 17:22:45 GMT
Thanks, very forgetful of me. Two of those namesakes are still with us, and indeed the Lib Dem Paul Holmes is still only in his late 60s. The other Gareth Thomas stood as recently as 2017 in his former constituency. The older Christopher Ward is also still alive, aged 82.
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Post by john07 on Aug 11, 2024 17:53:04 GMT
Thanks, very forgetful of me. Two of those namesakes are still with us, and indeed the Lib Dem Paul Holmes is still only in his late 60s. The other Gareth Thomas stood as recently as 2017 in his former constituency. I thought he played Roj Blake in Blakes 7? |
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Post by nyx on Aug 12, 2024 17:54:20 GMT
Something I have just noticed: there are more female Liberal Democrat MPs (32) than there are female Conservative MPs (29).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2024 4:27:11 GMT
Ages of living former US Presidents:
Donald John Trump - 78
Barack Hussein Obama II - 63
George Walker Bush - 78
William Jefferson Clinton - 77
James Earl Carter, Jr - 99
The last one to pass away was George Herbert Walker Bush, aged 94, in 2018. He was brilliantly satirised in The Simpsons' 'Two Bad Neighbours' - "Hellooooo Mr Bush", "He spanked you, you, Bart Simpson?". Before that, Gerald Ford died in 2006, and Ronald Reagan passed on in 2004. Nixon has been dead for about 30 years.
Obama and Carter really skew the average here. Obama was insanely young when you think about it. Even Kamala Harris and Tim Walz are already both 60.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Aug 13, 2024 12:14:15 GMT
Ages of living former US Presidents: Donald John Trump - 78 Barack Hussein Obama II - 63 George Walker Bush - 78 William Jefferson Clinton - 77 James Earl Carter, Jr - 99 The last one to pass away was George Herbert Walker Bush, aged 94, in 2018. He was brilliantly satirised in The Simpsons' 'Two Bad Neighbours' - "Hellooooo Mr Bush", "He spanked you, you, Bart Simpson?". Before that, Gerald Ford died in 2006, and Ronald Reagan passed on in 2004. Nixon has been dead for about 30 years. Obama and Carter really skew the average here. Obama was insanely young when you think about it. Even Kamala Harris and Tim Walz are already both 60. It's weird how four successive presidents are all the "same" age. 1946, 1946, 1946, 1942. You would expect successive presidents to be generally younger than previous ones as generations move on. It shows quite dramatically how the American political system has been stuck in the same generation for decades with that generation getting older and older as time passes. It's like countries that have a revolution and the revolutionaries all cling onto power for decades afterwards. What happened when the American Geriotcracy seized power in their youth 50 years ago? |
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Post by batman on Aug 13, 2024 12:42:39 GMT
Kamala Harris is in fact 59, but will celebrate her 60th birthday before election day. Some early votes will be cast for or against her as a 59-year-old.
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Post by uthacalthing on Aug 13, 2024 12:48:13 GMT
What happened when the American Geriotcracy seized power in their youth 50 years ago? Vietnam, the oil crisis and Watergate in quick succession. A generation of failed politicians were booted out |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2024 13:28:16 GMT
The gerontocracy is going nowhere, although Trump looks like he'll lose again. I think he'd bow out in 2028 if he lost, and throw his weight behind J.D. Vance, if he doesn't blame him for his loss. Bernie Sanders, Angus King, Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi, and Steny Hoyer are all running again. Jim Clyburn is too. I think Rogers (born 1937); Grassley, (born in 1933), Hoyer and Maxine Waters (both born in 1939) are the oldest members of Congress.
In 2026, we might see Dick Durbin (born in 1944) retire. Jim Risch will be 83 by then so he may retire too. I've made this point before, so won't bang on about it.
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Post by johnloony on Aug 13, 2024 14:31:42 GMT
Ages of living former US Presidents: Donald John Trump - 78 Barack Hussein Obama II - 63 George Walker Bush - 78 William Jefferson Clinton - 77 James Earl Carter, Jr - 99 The last one to pass away was George Herbert Walker Bush, aged 94, in 2018. He was brilliantly satirised in The Simpsons' 'Two Bad Neighbours' - "Hellooooo Mr Bush", "He spanked you, you, Bart Simpson?". Before that, Gerald Ford died in 2006, and Ronald Reagan passed on in 2004. Nixon has been dead for about 30 years. Obama and Carter really skew the average here. Obama was insanely young when you think about it. Even Kamala Harris and Tim Walz are already both 60. It's weird how four successive presidents are all the "same" age. 1946, 1946, 1946, 1942. You would expect successive presidents to be generally younger than previous ones as generations move on. It shows quite dramatically how the American political system has been stuck in the same generation for decades with that generation getting older and older as time passes. It's like countries that have a revolution and the revolutionaries all cling onto power for decades afterwards. What happened when the American Geriotcracy seized power in their youth 50 years ago? There have been 14 occasions on which an incoming President of the USA has been older than his predecessor. There have only been 2 occasions on which it has happened twice in a row: Roosevelt-Taft-Wilson (born in 1858, 1857, 1856) Obama-Trump-Biden (born in 1961, 1946, 1942) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2024 1:56:34 GMT
Minnesota's Royce White (R) is the first Senate candidate born in the 1990s of the big two parties. He's also six foot eight! He was born in 1991. Feel old yet? If elected Royce White would be the second tallest Senator of recent times after Alabama's Luther Strange who is six foot nine (and who I met in 2018). Funnily enough, Luther Strange was the tallest ever United States Senator. Sadly he lost his primary to Roy fucking Moore, a confirmed wrong-un and bad egg of the highest order.
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Post by greenhert on Aug 22, 2024 20:49:03 GMT
In the 2024 general election, only 4 counties returned a plurality or majority of Conservative MPs within their constituencies: Hampshire, Leicestershire, Lincolnshire and Worcestershire (for this purpose the city of York is counted as being in North Yorkshire given that some parts of York Outer were in North Yorkshire prior to their absorption into York itself). Hampshire: 10/19 (counting Farnham & Bordon even though the majority of this is in Surrey), Leicestershire: 6/10, Lincolnshire: 6/8, Worcestershire: 4/6.
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Post by greatkingrat on Aug 22, 2024 21:09:35 GMT
In the 2024 general election, only 4 counties returned a plurality or majority of Conservative MPs within their constituencies: Hampshire, Leicestershire, Lincolnshire and Worcestershire (for this purpose the city of York is counted as being in North Yorkshire given that some parts of York Outer were in North Yorkshire prior to their absorption into York itself). Hampshire: 10/19 (counting Farnham & Bordon even though the majority of this is in Surrey), Leicestershire: 6/10, Lincolnshire: 6/8, Worcestershire: 4/6. Rutland 1/1. |
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Post by jakegb on Aug 22, 2024 21:16:25 GMT
Essex - 10/18
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