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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jul 18, 2024 14:46:34 GMT
The Conservatives lost every seat in Cornwall at the general election. However, they were only a whisker away from being the largest party in terms of aggregated votes:
Labour 77517
Con 76817
LD 73691
Reform 48574
Green 13778
Others and indies 3851
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 18, 2024 15:48:00 GMT
That's closer than I thought. I had had a look through the results and decided Labour had carried the popular vote but didn't realise it was that close (or that it was close three ways)
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jul 18, 2024 15:59:58 GMT
The Labour vote in North Cornwall and St Ives almost halved, whereas in each of those seats the LDs got more votes than they received in the remaining four Cornish seats. So in practice it's mostly an artefact of very heavy tactical voting.
Am currently working through calculating results by county, and whilst I'm not sure there's anywhere where the Conservatives came off worse than they did in Cornwall, there are a lot of counties where they took a beating in terms of seat losses but either remained the largest party in terms of votes or were very close to doing so.
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Post by nyx on Jul 18, 2024 16:14:57 GMT
The Conservatives lost every seat in Cornwall at the general election. However, they were only a whisker away from being the largest party in terms of aggregated votes: Labour 77517 Con 76817 LD 73691 Reform 48574 Green 13778 Others and indies 3851 In the South West region as a whole, they won comfortably the largest number of total votes but were in third place in seat number. Conservative 785,672 votes, 11 seats Lib Dem 687,731 votes, 22 seats Labour 682,093 votes, 24 seats |
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Post by hullenedge on Jul 19, 2024 9:03:45 GMT
HO vs 2024 votes:-
There will be an age factor but fascinating trend lines.
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Post by batman on Jul 19, 2024 9:30:09 GMT
Of the 8 constituencies entirely in West Sussex, only 2 now have Tory MPs. One is Andrew Griffith (Arundel & S Downs), the other is Ali Griffiths (Bognor Regis & Littlehampton).
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Post by uthacalthing on Jul 19, 2024 10:24:46 GMT
The Conservatives lost every seat in Cornwall at the general election. However, they were only a whisker away from being the largest party in terms of aggregated votes: Labour 77517 Con 76817 LD 73691 Reform 48574 Green 13778 Others and indies 3851 Those figures show how ruthlessly efficient the electorate were in their desire to boot the Tories out. In turn they make it hard to state with any confidence the actual level of positive support enjoyed by Labour or the Lib Dems. A great many Labour supporters clearly voted Lib Dem and vice versa. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 19, 2024 11:28:05 GMT
The Conservatives lost every seat in Cornwall at the general election. However, they were only a whisker away from being the largest party in terms of aggregated votes: Labour 77517 Con 76817 LD 73691 Reform 48574 Green 13778 Others and indies 3851 Those figures show how ruthlessly efficient the electorate were in their desire to boot the Tories out. In turn they make it hard to state with any confidence the actual level of positive support enjoyed by Labour or the Lib Dems. A great many Labour supporters clearly voted Lib Dem and vice versa. This is why we need proper (list) PR and why FPTP is not fit for purpose. Not from a fairness point of view, but for anoraks who would like to see what the actual level of positive support is for each party in each area (polling dirstrict)_ |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jul 19, 2024 11:34:38 GMT
This is why we need proper (list) PR and why FPTP is not fit for purpose. Not from a fairness point of view, but for anoraks who would like to see what the actual level of positive support is for each party in each area (polling dirstrict)_ Ah, but this is precisely why ordinary voters quite like the present system... |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 19, 2024 11:42:57 GMT
This is why we need proper (list) PR and why FPTP is not fit for purpose. Not from a fairness point of view, but for anoraks who would like to see what the actual level of positive support is for each party in each area (polling dirstrict)_ Ah, but this is precisely why ordinary voters quite like the present system... The map you posted just6 a minute ago shows why ordinaty voters are not to be trusted on these matters. Voters should have due regard to how the overall map looks at least, even if they can't be expected to care how silly thematic maps are going to look in places like Cornwall.. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2024 11:47:09 GMT
HO vs 2024 votes:- There will be an age factor but fascinating trend lines. What I wouldn't give to own a house is Islington South & Finsbury. Barnsbury where some former clients live, is delightful, especially around Ripplegrove Road way. |
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Post by nyx on Jul 19, 2024 17:06:20 GMT
One fun fact I've just noticed- the second-highest vote total the Tories received in the entire election was in Godalming and Ash (23,293 votes). This was a seat they only won by 891 votes!
Their highest vote total was in Harrow East (25,466 votes).
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Post by Foggy on Jul 19, 2024 17:13:33 GMT
One fun fact I've just noticed- the second-highest vote total the Tories received in the entire election was in Godalming and Ash (23,293 votes). This was a seat they only won by 891 votes! It was one of the few seats that behaved in a way we've become accustomed to: turnout wasn't pitiful, it was clear who the top two candidates would be beforehand, and voters overwhelmingly chose a 'useful vote' for a party that had a chance of winning. Almost all other constituencies this year seemed to lack at least one of those factors. |
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Post by John Chanin on Jul 19, 2024 17:51:45 GMT
HO vs 2024 votes:- There will be an age factor but fascinating trend lines. The Green Party was the only one proposing serious legal changes that benefited renters. It is unsurprising that many young households struggling in the private rented sector noticed. |
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Post by ColinJ on Jul 19, 2024 18:12:45 GMT
One fun fact I've just noticed- the second-highest vote total the Tories received in the entire election was in Godalming and Ash (23,293 votes). This was a seat they only won by 891 votes! Their highest vote total was in Harrow East (25,466 votes). I thought about 'liking' this post because it's interesting, but I refrained from doing so. From a personal point of view I don't like the second paragraph  ! |
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Post by where2travel on Jul 19, 2024 20:34:23 GMT
One fun fact I've just noticed- the second-highest vote total the Tories received in the entire election was in Godalming and Ash (23,293 votes). This was a seat they only won by 891 votes! Their highest vote total was in Harrow East (25,466 votes). Good spot. Labour came very close to losing their deposit here (by something like 4 votes). That combined with relatively low Reform and Green shares means it flatters the Tories in terms of total numbers of votes on a 43% vote share and slim majority. Looking across Surrey and similar south-east seats as a whole, Hunt did very well here. |
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Post by batman on Jul 19, 2024 20:53:15 GMT
and remember there are Labour councillors in Godalming.
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Post by mick745 on Jul 20, 2024 6:50:19 GMT
Possible records broken at the GE:
Most seats changing hands - 303
Lowest conservative share
Lowest cons number of seats
Largest con-lab swing
Most new MPs - 335
Record definitely not broken:
Most sitting MPs defeated (1931 record still intact)
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jul 20, 2024 8:52:11 GMT
This is why we need proper (list) PR and why FPTP is not fit for purpose. Not from a fairness point of view, but for anoraks who would like to see what the actual level of positive support is for each party in each area (polling dirstrict)_ Ah, but this is precisely why ordinary voters quite like the present system... It was functionally an election conducted by AV, with the disproportionality that implies when one party in such a system is particularly unpopular. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 20, 2024 9:23:14 GMT
Possible records broken at the GE: Most seats changing hands - 303 Lowest conservative share Lowest cons number of seats Largest con-lab swing Most new MPs - 335Record definitely not broken: Most sitting MPs defeated (1931 record still intact) Is this entirely new MPs, so not including retreads? |
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