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Post by johnloony on Jul 7, 2024 18:13:22 GMT
The Reform Party had an explicit electoral pact with the SDP in Sheffield, where there were SDP candidates in all Sheffield constituencies. I'm not sure if the electoral pact officially also applied to the other constituencies with no Reform candidates. But anyway: Votes for the SDP in constituencies with no Reform candidate: 1,960 Doncaster North 1,874 Leeds South 1,835 Middlesbrough South & Cleveland East 1,453 Sheffield South East 1,437 Sheffield Brightside & Hillsborough 1,211 Hexham 1,061 Dorset Mid & Poole North 784 Earley & Woodley 784 Brighton Kemptown & Peacehaven 656 Sheffield Central 650 Stone, Great Wyrley & Penkridge 594 Sheffield Heeley 555 Bristol East 518 Maidenhead 281 Sheffield Hallam 232 Oxford East In constituencies with Reform candidates, the SDP had a handful of candidates with c.300 - 500 votes each, but otherwise the vast majority of SDP candidates got fewer than 300 votes each. Can’t think why Reform agreed to this. South Yorks is one of the areas UKIP did best in, the SDP barely fought a campaign in most of them in return. They must have been assuming that the large network of hundreds of well-organised and efficiently-managed grassroots members of the Reform Party would distribute tens of thousands of leaflets to advertise the Ref/SDP pact, and advise people to vote SDP accordingly as a Reform proxy. |
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Post by batman on Jul 7, 2024 21:28:51 GMT
Put this in the wrong thread by accident earlier :
There are of course many interesting electoral facts arising from this election. Here are a few that come to mind :
Labour won a majority of seats in the following ceremonial counties as they now exist for the first time ever : Cornwall, Kent, Berkshire, Suffolk (Labour won half the seats there in 1945).
Labour won a full slate of seats for the first time ever in Merseyside, Derbyshire & Northumberland.
This is the first time at least in modern times that the Father of the House has lost his seat. In 2019 Dennis Skinner would have been Father of the House had he not been defeated, but he had not yet achieved that distinction.
The incumbent in Ynys Mon/Anglesey was defeated (by Plaid Cymru). Although it has generally been a marginal seat, this had not happened since 1951.
Labour has never before won all or both (as applicable) seats in the city of Portsmouth. Of course, this also applies to Southend & Bournemouth where Labour had never previously won either seat, and also Worthing although neither Worthing constituency consists entirely of Worthing borough wards.
As has been noted, Liz Truss became the first former Prime Minister of modern times to lose their seat.
The number of independents elected to the House is the highest of modern times.
Traditional Unionist Voice won its first-ever seat in the House of Commons. Reform UK won its first parliamentary elections (of course they already had an MP following the defection of Lee Anderson).
The city of Leicester elected 3 MPs of different party appellations for the first time at least since WWII.
Macclesfield's new MP is the first-ever Labour MP to be called either Tim or Timothy.
3 Conservative MPs called Fletcher were elected in 2019 for the first time. All 3 lost their seats to Labour this time. The same fate befell the 2 Conservatives called Hunt elected for the first time in 2019, but of course not Jeremy Hunt who had first been elected in 2005.
The Conservative MP Alexander Stafford lost his seat to Labour, but his brother Greg was elected in Farnham & Bordon. I don't recall another instance of one brother losing a seat and the other entering the Commons at the same election.
This is the first time in modern times that the Conservatives have had no MPs in Greater Manchester.
Two former Conservative Deputy Prime Ministers lost their seats to Labour. In both cases it was the first time Labour had ever won that seat or its linear predecessors.
I'm sure there are some other noteworthy ones.
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 7, 2024 21:32:33 GMT
The Reform Party had an explicit electoral pact with the SDP in Sheffield, where there were SDP candidates in all Sheffield constituencies. I'm not sure if the electoral pact officially also applied to the other constituencies with no Reform candidates. But anyway: Votes for the SDP in constituencies with no Reform candidate: 1,960 Doncaster North 1,874 Leeds South 1,835 Middlesbrough South & Cleveland East 1,453 Sheffield South East 1,437 Sheffield Brightside & Hillsborough 1,211 Hexham 1,061 Dorset Mid & Poole North 784 Earley & Woodley 784 Brighton Kemptown & Peacehaven 656 Sheffield Central 650 Stone, Great Wyrley & Penkridge 594 Sheffield Heeley 555 Bristol East 518 Maidenhead 281 Sheffield Hallam 232 Oxford East In constituencies with Reform candidates, the SDP had a handful of candidates with c.300 - 500 votes each, but otherwise the vast majority of SDP candidates got fewer than 300 votes each. Can’t think why Reform agreed to this. South Yorks is one of the areas UKIP did best in, the SDP barely fought a campaign in most of them in return. You are quite right. This diminished choice for some electors (like me in Sheffield); diminished total party vote by many thousands; and reduced potential recruitment in a rather good area. I cannot imagine what possessed them to do this? I am not joining them until they clearly state they have done so and stood candidates in Sheffield. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jul 7, 2024 21:38:36 GMT
Can’t think why Reform agreed to this. South Yorks is one of the areas UKIP did best in, the SDP barely fought a campaign in most of them in return. You are quite right. This diminished choice for some electors (like me in Sheffield); diminished total party vote by many thousands; and reduced potential recruitment in a rather good area. I cannot imagine what possessed them to do this? I am not joining them until they clearly state they have done so and stood candidates in Sheffield. Having a clearly announced SDP/Reform Alliance would have boosted their votes. My ex-wife wanted to vote Reform, but with SDP being listed instead, decided to not vote at all.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 7, 2024 21:55:41 GMT
The SDP need to be absorbed or ignored. I live in hope that Patrick O'Flynn will come across, but even if not they're a micro-party like Heritage, notwithstanding the odd bit of localised support in Leeds. None of these kind of pacts are any use to Reform UK whatsoever. All these parties (including UKIP) got an utterly derisory vote where they were standing in the same seats as Reform, and not much less derisory where Reform didn't stand
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Jul 7, 2024 23:31:30 GMT
Thanks to Labour winning the seat of Montgomeryshire and Glyndŵr, and what with the creation of the Bangor Aberconwy seat and it also going Labour, I do believe that thanks to this election every single square inch of Wales has at some point had a Labour MP.
Prior to this point, the old Montgomeryshire seat had never voted Labour, and parts of the Conwy valley (the likes of Llanrwst and Eglwysbach being the most notable settlements) had never been covered by a seat that Labour had won on those boundaries.
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Post by minionofmidas on Jul 8, 2024 6:53:50 GMT
Can’t think why Reform agreed to this. South Yorks is one of the areas UKIP did best in, the SDP barely fought a campaign in most of them in return. They must have been assuming that the large network of hundreds of well-organised and efficiently-managed grassroots members of the Reform Party would distribute tens of thousands of leaflets to advertise the Ref/SDP pact, and advise people to vote SDP accordingly as a Reform proxy. That's what the SDP thought! |
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Post by minionofmidas on Jul 8, 2024 7:01:41 GMT
Macclesfield's new MP is the first-ever Labour MP to be called either Tim or Timothy. You'd think Glasgow Labour would have been represented by a Tim at one point |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 8, 2024 9:58:48 GMT
Macclesfield's new MP is the first-ever Labour MP to be called either Tim or Timothy. You'd think Glasgow Labour would have been represented by a Tim at one point Has Glasgow ever had an MP called Ned? |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jul 8, 2024 10:14:21 GMT
Two former Conservative Deputy Prime Ministers lost their seats to Labour. In both cases it was the first time Labour had ever won that seat or its linear predecessors. Who was the second one? Coffey is the first, but Dowden held on fairly easily. |
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Post by Peter Wilkinson on Jul 8, 2024 12:31:33 GMT
Two former Conservative Deputy Prime Ministers lost their seats to Labour. In both cases it was the first time Labour had ever won that seat or its linear predecessors. Who was the second one? Coffey is the first, but Dowden held on fairly easily. Dominic Raab, presumably - though he didn't lose his seat so much as leave it to a successor as Conservative candidate to lose it instead. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jul 8, 2024 12:54:18 GMT
And it wasn't lost to Labour either.
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Post by greatkingrat on Jul 8, 2024 13:06:22 GMT
Damian Green? Not officially deputy PM but was First Secretary of State.
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Post by hullenedge on Jul 8, 2024 16:04:30 GMT
Tory over/under performances. There's a clickable map in the link. Teesside, Keighley, High Peak, Rother Valley and Godalming prominent.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2024 16:27:49 GMT
Hendon is the only seat to my knowledge that was ultra Lab-Con marginal in 2010 and ultra marginal in 2024 (defining ultra-marginal as majority under 500 votes).
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Post by David Ashforth on Jul 8, 2024 16:55:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2024 2:45:58 GMT
In London, Labour's margin was sub-97 in Bexleyheath, Hendon, and, I think, Brent West and Uxbridge & South Ruislip (notional). They lost Harrow East, of course.
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Post by batman on Jul 9, 2024 5:10:21 GMT
Damian Green? Not officially deputy PM but was First Secretary of State. I did mean Damian Green. Apologies if I am mistaken |
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Post by mick745 on Jul 9, 2024 8:26:19 GMT
Newly elected MPs at each General Election since 1945:
1945 - 324
1950 - 130
1951 - 46
1955 - 67
1959 - 101
1964 - 127
1966 - 82
1970 - 138
1974f - 108
1974o - 36
1979 - 116
1983 - 150
1987 - 121
1992 - 127
1997 - 243
2001 - 92
2005 - 119
2010 - 227
2015 - 177
2017 - 87
2019 - 140
2024 - 335
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Post by mick745 on Jul 9, 2024 8:30:21 GMT
Retreads elected at each general eleçtion since 1945:
1945 - 23
1950 - 28
1951 - 12
1955 - 5
1959 - 7
1964 - 10
1966 - 9
1970 - 21
1974f - 20
1974o - 10
1979 - 14
1983 - 7
1987 - 9
1992 - 13
1997 - 17
2001 - 7
2005 - 4
2010 - 5
2015 - 5
2017 - 12
2019 - 15
2024 - 15
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