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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 9, 2024 15:05:11 GMT
Read David Dutton's 'Liberals in Schism' for a full study of the Liberal Nationals / National Liberals. By the 1950s the 'National Liberal' organisation was a pale shadow of its former self, and while some local groups survived, most were in name only. Conservative candidates in traditionally 'Conservative and National Liberal' areas often resented having to run under a confusing label, and dropped it as soon as they could.
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Post by greenhert on Jun 9, 2024 19:02:09 GMT
The aggregate candidates leaderboard for 2024 is now as follows: | Constituency | Total # of candidates since 1983 | Average # of candidates per general election | | Hackney South & Shoreditch | 88 | 8 | | Bethnal Green & Stepney/Bow | 83 | 7.54 | | Cities of London & Westminster | 83 | 7.54 | | Oxford East | 81 | 7.36 | | Sheffield Central | 80 | 7.27 | | (Camberwell &) Peckham | 80 | 7.27 | | Holborn & St Pancras | 79 | 7.18 | | Cardiff Central/East | 76 | 6.91 | | Uxbridge & South Ruislip | 75 | 6.82 | | (Windsor &) Maidenhead | 75 | 6.82 |
Vauxhall (& Camberwell Green) also has an aggregate total of 75 but I have relegated it from this leaderboard because only 6 candidates are standing in that constituency this year, compared to 7 in Maidenhead and 8 in Uxbridge & South Ruislip. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jun 9, 2024 19:41:26 GMT
The aggregate candidates leaderboard for 2024 is now as follows: | Constituency | Total # of candidates since 1983 | Average # of candidates per general election | | Hackney South & Shoreditch | 91 | 8.27 | | Bethnal Green & Stepney/Bow | 85 | 7.73 | | Cities of London & Westminster | 83 | 7.54 | | Oxford East | 81 | 7.36 | | Sheffield Central | 80 | 7.27 | | (Camberwell &) Peckham | 80 | 7.27 | | Holborn & St Pancras | 79 | 7.18 | | Cardiff Central/East | 76 | 6.91 | | Uxbridge & South Ruislip | 75 | 6.82 | | (Windsor &) Maidenhead | 75 | 6.82 |
Vauxhall (& Camberwell Green) also has an aggregate total of 75 but I have relegated it from this leaderboard because only 6 candidates are standing in that constituency this year, compared to 7 in Maidenhead and 8 in Uxbridge & South Ruislip. Exactly the sort of number crunching I would do |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2024 8:39:16 GMT
If Farage becomes Tory leader, it's likely that 2029 will be the last UK GE where both main party leaders are boomers (people born from 1946-64).
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 13, 2024 10:59:31 GMT
Apart from the multiple assumptions about Farage, this takes as read that Starmer will still be there - given his age that is not guaranteed.
And he still has to win the election first!
Btw some of us think those born circa 1960-64 aren't "real" boomers and often have more in common with Generation X.
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Post by batman on Jun 13, 2024 11:09:41 GMT
yes I think this thread is supposed to be about actual established facts rather than what-ifs. But of course others may see it differently
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 13, 2024 11:18:03 GMT
You are a 1960-64 person aren't you, do you agree with me that your group is basically a Boomer/Gen X hybrid?
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Post by batman on Jun 13, 2024 11:27:44 GMT
I haven't a clue. I was indeed born in 1960. My sister was born in 1964.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jun 13, 2024 12:44:01 GMT
I haven't a clue. I was indeed born in 1960. My sister was born in 1964. I think "generations" more fit where the full spread of siblings in the fit rather than individuals. If you have siblings born 1969, 1971, 1973 are they a 1960s family or a 1970s family? My Mum's family were seven born between 1946 and 1958, so one was at university in the mid-1960s and one in 1980. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 18, 2024 16:05:35 GMT
I wonder if the 2024 election will set a new record for the shortest time between polls closing and a party achieving a majority of seats? The previous times were:
1964: 2:47 pm on Friday 16 October (17 hours 47 minutes)
1966: 12 pm on Friday 1 April (15 hours)
1970: 2 pm on Friday 19 June (16 hours)
1974(F) - none
1974(O) - 2:06 pm on Friday 11 October (16 hours 6 minutes)
1979 - 2:50 pm on Friday 4 May (16 hours 50 minutes)
1983 - 2:40 am on Friday 10 June (4 hours 40 minutes)
1987 - 2:35 am on Friday 12 June (4 hours 35 minutes)
1992 - 12:20 pm on Friday 10 April (14 hours 20 minutes)
1997 - 3:15 am on Friday 2 May (5 hours 15 minutes)
2001 - 2:58 am on Friday 8 June (4 hours 58 miinutes)
2005 - 4:27 am on Friday 6 May (6 hours 27 minutes)
2010 - none
2015 - 12:36 pm on Friday 8 May (14 hours 36 minutes)
2017 - none
2019 - 5:05 am on Friday 13 December (7 hours 5 minutes)
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 18, 2024 16:12:02 GMT
I wonder if the 2024 election will set a new record for the shortest time between polls closing and a party achieving a majority of seats? The previous times were: 1964: 2:47 pm on Friday 16 October (17 hours 47 minutes) 1966: 12 pm on Friday 1 April (15 hours) 1970: 2 pm on Friday 19 June (16 hours) 1974(F) - none 1974(O) - 2:06 pm on Friday 11 October (16 hours 6 minutes) 1979 - 2:50 pm on Friday 4 May (16 hours 50 minutes) 1983 - 2:40 am on Friday 10 June (4 hours 40 minutes) 1987 - 2:35 am on Friday 12 June (4 hours 35 minutes) 1992 - 12:20 pm on Friday 10 April (14 hours 20 minutes) 1997 - 3:15 am on Friday 2 May (5 hours 15 minutes) 2001 - 2:58 am on Friday 8 June (4 hours 58 miinutes) 2005 - 4:27 am on Friday 6 May (6 hours 27 minutes) 2010 - none 2015 - 12:36 pm on Friday 8 May (14 hours 36 minutes) 2017 - none 2019 - 5:05 am on Friday 13 December (7 hours 5 minutes) The longer ballot papers may work against that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2024 17:24:23 GMT
At 100, my great aunt will be one of the oldest electors in the UK, and one of the oldest to vote at a poling station (assuming she makes it to July 4th). The first election she voted in was, I believe, 1945, almost exactly 79 years before she'll be voting in Washington in Tyne and Wear this year.
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Post by edgbaston on Jun 18, 2024 17:30:34 GMT
At 100, my great aunt will be one of the oldest electors in the UK, and one of the oldest to vote at a poling station (assuming she makes it to July 4th). The first election she voted in was, I believe, 1945, almost exactly 79 years before she'll be voting in Washington in Tyne and Wear this year. If you’re unsure if she’ll make it maybe get a postal vote form in as the deadline is looming! |
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Post by edgbaston on Jun 18, 2024 17:32:04 GMT
Which raises the question, if I was nominated as a proxy for someone that died before election day, would I have committed an offence if a) I voted knowing they had died, or b) I had not heard news of their death.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2024 22:41:55 GMT
Interestingly, I wonder if the UK's oldest person (114 year old Ethel Caterham) voted in the 1931 General Election which she was eligible to do.
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Post by batman on Jun 18, 2024 23:22:05 GMT
At 100, my great aunt will be one of the oldest electors in the UK, and one of the oldest to vote at a poling station (assuming she makes it to July 4th). The first election she voted in was, I believe, 1945, almost exactly 79 years before she'll be voting in Washington in Tyne and Wear this year. can't beat that, but my mother turned 96 this month & will be voting in person. She has a Vote Labour garden stake in her front garden so I think I can guess how she will vote. |
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Post by iainbhx on Jun 19, 2024 6:39:07 GMT
Which raises the question, if I was nominated as a proxy for someone that died before election day, would I have committed an offence if a) I voted knowing they had died, or b) I had not heard news of their death. I'm going to say yes in the first case and no in the second because it was made in good faith. The second would still however be eligible to have the result challenged. |
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Post by manchesterman on Jun 19, 2024 9:51:43 GMT
Which raises the question, if I was nominated as a proxy for someone that died before election day, would I have committed an offence if a) I voted knowing they had died, or b) I had not heard news of their death. I'm going to say yes in the first case and no in the second because it was made in good faith. The second would still however be eligible to have the result challenged. I would have thought that (a) was clearly an offence as you would be voting for a person who you would know to be ineligible (by reason of death) to vote. Whilst a prosecution under (b) could be brought, if you simply lied and said that you're very sorry but you simply weren't aware of their death on election day, it's pretty hard to disprove, so I think any prosecution - in a one-off instance- would be unlikely. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 19, 2024 11:27:14 GMT
Interestingly, I wonder if the UK's oldest person (114 year old Ethel Caterham) voted in the 1931 General Election which she was eligible to do. If she is still compos mentis, then maybe somebody could ask her that - and indeed if she is voting this time? |
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Jun 19, 2024 11:32:00 GMT
Interestingly, I wonder if the UK's oldest person (114 year old Ethel Caterham) voted in the 1931 General Election which she was eligible to do. If she is still compos mentis, then maybe somebody could ask her that - and indeed if she is voting this time? like Fight Club you don't talk about the 1931 GE  |
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