The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 26, 2024 9:57:10 GMT
He is not well & should not be standing for election. It will be very detrimental to his already iffy mental health if, as seems certain, he gets a very low vote. He will take it personally. I hope he will be OK & wish him well. He is not Jared fucking O'Mara One is speaking about oneself in the third person, is one. |
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Post by nobodyimportant on Jul 26, 2024 10:07:19 GMT
That handwriting is really disgraceful though didn’t he go to Oxford. This comment reflects badly on you, and to be honest I wouldn't have expected you to be someone to make a comment like that. Handwriting has nothing to do with either intellect or academic ability. Indeed if there is any correlation then I'd expect it to be negative. Doctors have a well-earned reputation for having bad handwriting and they're hardly a byword for stupidity are they? And autistic people (which I believe the candidate in question has stated previously that he is? feel free to correct me if I am misremembering) are both heavily overrepresented at Oxford, to the point where in some subjects you'd struggle to find someone who isn't autistic, and tend to have poor hand-eye coordination and thus bad handwriting. |
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Post by batman on Jul 26, 2024 10:10:35 GMT
My handwriting is dreadful these days, and I'm not generally regarded as stupid, except by a few misguided rightists, and possibly even non-rightists. I used to employ a man called Alan who was quite a few years older than me. "Barn" he sometimes would say to me "with handwriting like that, you should have been a doctor".
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Post by edgbaston on Jul 26, 2024 10:19:23 GMT
That handwriting is really disgraceful though didn’t he go to Oxford. This comment reflects badly on you, and to be honest I wouldn't have expected you to be someone to make a comment like that. Handwriting has nothing to do with either intellect or academic ability. Indeed if there is any correlation then I'd expect it to be negative. Doctors have a well-earned reputation for having bad handwriting and they're hardly a byword for stupidity are they? And autistic people (which I believe the candidate in question has stated previously that he is? feel free to correct me if I am misremembering) are both heavily overrepresented at Oxford, to the point where in some subjects you'd struggle to find someone who isn't autistic, and tend to have poor hand-eye coordination and thus bad handwriting. I think you’re putting words into my mouth a little bit (lot?) there. The vast majority of people of higher qualifications and none, of low to exceptional academic ability, would be absolutely bemused at receiving that rushed scrawl on the doormat. I have many autistic friends involved in elections who would never dream of putting such tatty bits of paper through perspective voter’s letterboxes. |
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Post by Crimson King on Jul 26, 2024 10:24:12 GMT
I have come across election literature which appears to be handwritten but I assume is in actual fact a font to appear handwritten? In any case it's certainly photocopied, whereas Mr. Parr-Reid hasn't done so. Just writing out the imprint however many times would tire me out! The (in)famous LibDem blue letters ... they are not (usually) a font looking like handwriting, but genuinely handwritten, albeit then reproduced by a printer or copier. I know, because I am not allowed to write mine, my handwriting is too illegible (as befits a former GP) |
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 26, 2024 10:26:42 GMT
My handwriting was always abysmal - I had to read one of my degree exam papers into a tape recorder because of it! - but it has if anything got even worse in recent years given how little I communicate "old style" as opposed to online these days. We are one group of people for whom the internet was an absolute godsend.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jul 26, 2024 10:27:10 GMT
The vast majority of people of higher qualifications and none, of low to exceptional academic ability, would be absolutely bemused at receiving that rushed scrawl on the doormat. This. I can see why the Green's didn't want him if this is his idea of a campaign. |
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Post by batman on Jul 26, 2024 10:48:09 GMT
that & the fact that he was canvassing for a candidate who was in opposition to the Greens less than a month ago. I wouldn't want to select a candidate who was liable to go out campaigning for opposing candidates & if I were a Green I'm sure I'd feel the same.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jul 26, 2024 11:19:20 GMT
I have come across election literature which appears to be handwritten but I assume is in actual fact a font to appear handwritten? In any case it's certainly photocopied, whereas Mr. Parr-Reid hasn't done so. Just writing out the imprint however many times would tire me out! The (in)famous LibDem blue letters ... Script font? Pah! Amateurs!  (imprint is on the other side) |
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Post by sanders on Jul 26, 2024 11:59:04 GMT
He is not Jared fucking O'Mara Senator - you're no Jared O'Mara. If you're doing OK, that's good news, but you can hardly blame people for thinking you aren't in the circumstances. You're a musician, not a doctor. How am I not well then? |
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Post by sanders on Jul 26, 2024 11:59:37 GMT
that & the fact that he was canvassing for a candidate who was in opposition to the Greens less than a month ago. I wouldn't want to select a candidate who was liable to go out campaigning for opposing candidates & if I were a Green I'm sure I'd feel the same. Such is pragmatism. Greens weren't competitive. |
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Post by sanders on Jul 26, 2024 12:00:37 GMT
This comment reflects badly on you, and to be honest I wouldn't have expected you to be someone to make a comment like that. Handwriting has nothing to do with either intellect or academic ability. Indeed if there is any correlation then I'd expect it to be negative. Doctors have a well-earned reputation for having bad handwriting and they're hardly a byword for stupidity are they? And autistic people (which I believe the candidate in question has stated previously that he is? feel free to correct me if I am misremembering) are both heavily overrepresented at Oxford, to the point where in some subjects you'd struggle to find someone who isn't autistic, and tend to have poor hand-eye coordination and thus bad handwriting. I think you’re putting words into my mouth a little bit (lot?) there. The vast majority of people of higher qualifications and none, of low to exceptional academic ability, would be absolutely bemused at receiving that rushed scrawl on the doormat. I have many autistic friends involved in elections who would never dream of putting such tatty bits of paper through perspective voter’s letterboxes. Handwriting indicates greater effort than typing. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jul 26, 2024 12:27:40 GMT
I think you’re putting words into my mouth a little bit (lot?) there. The vast majority of people of higher qualifications and none, of low to exceptional academic ability, would be absolutely bemused at receiving that rushed scrawl on the doormat. I have many autistic friends involved in elections who would never dream of putting such tatty bits of paper through perspective voter’s letterboxes. Handwriting indicates greater effort than typing. And you think people are going to vote for you because of that? You do what you want to do, but my god you are going about this campaign in a completely bonkers way. |
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Post by cathyc on Jul 26, 2024 12:37:17 GMT
I think you’re putting words into my mouth a little bit (lot?) there. The vast majority of people of higher qualifications and none, of low to exceptional academic ability, would be absolutely bemused at receiving that rushed scrawl on the doormat. I have many autistic friends involved in elections who would never dream of putting such tatty bits of paper through perspective voter’s letterboxes. Handwriting indicates greater effort than typing. No it doesn't. It indicates the same amount of effort to do far, far less. |
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Post by johnloony on Jul 26, 2024 12:50:28 GMT
I think you’re putting words into my mouth a little bit (lot?) there. The vast majority of people of higher qualifications and none, of low to exceptional academic ability, would be absolutely bemused at receiving that rushed scrawl on the doormat. I have many autistic friends involved in elections who would never dream of putting such tatty bits of paper through perspective voter’s letterboxes. Handwriting indicates greater effort than typing. If I were a voter receiving a handwritten leaflet like that, I would think that it indicated that the candidate or agent had such a pathetically disorganised and unprofessional life that they simply couldn’t, or couldn’t be bothered to, organise their campaign in a way which involved clearly typed and neatly presented leaflets, with proper sentences and paragraphs. Even a photocopied copy of a typed page (from a manual typewriter, if necessary) would suffice, even if they can’t employ a proper printer. If I, as a candidate, were resorting to using handwritten leaflets, then I would take care to write them properly and neatly, with a proper pen or biro, in neat handwriting, with proper spelling and punctuation, and without using a crude felt-tip pen or highlighter marker. If the handwritten leaflets shown on Twitter are typical of the “hundreds” of leaflets which Mr Parr-Reid has claimed to deliver, then I would expect them to yield very few votes. The net effect of such leaflets might even depress the basic minimum number of votes which he would have received without doing any leafleting or campaigning at all. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 26, 2024 12:53:12 GMT
My handwriting was always abysmal - I had to read one of my degree exam papers into a tape recorder because of it! - but it has if anything got even worse in recent years given how little I communicate "old style" as opposed to online these days. We are one group of people for whom the internet was an absolute godsend. Mine has got so bad I can barely read it back to myself even a short while after writing it. I sometimes struggle to read my shopping list, such that if I'm going after work, I now type it into notepad and print it off |
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Post by johnloony on Jul 26, 2024 12:55:41 GMT
Senator - you're no Jared O'Mara. If you're doing OK, that's good news, but you can hardly blame people for thinking you aren't in the circumstances. You're a musician, not a doctor. How am I not well then? Judging by the available evidence, some people might think that you’re not very sharp, or that your campaigning might fall flat, or that the voters might quaver in their decision before voting for you, or they might come to the conclusion that you have only made a minim amount of persuasion to drum up support before reaching the finale of your campaign, or that you are using inefficient methods to trumpet your message to the electorate. |
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Post by batman on Jul 26, 2024 13:42:10 GMT
You're a musician, not a doctor. How am I not well then? Judging by the available evidence, some people might think that you’re not very sharp, or that your campaigning might fall flat, or that the voters might quaver in their decision before voting for you, or they might come to the conclusion that you have only made a minim amount of persuasion to drum up support before reaching the finale of your campaign, or that you are using inefficient methods to trumpet your message to the electorate. even if he gets a few votes it would be accidental. A larger amount would meet with a crescendo of incredulity from most of us here. But who knows, maybe he has a greater bass than we realised. |
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Post by batman on Jul 26, 2024 13:45:06 GMT
Senator - you're no Jared O'Mara. If you're doing OK, that's good news, but you can hardly blame people for thinking you aren't in the circumstances. You're a musician, not a doctor. How am I not well then? look, if you are absolutely fine, I happily take back what I said. It is true that I am not a medical professional, and sadly don't have a doctorate of any other kind either. If I may I will leave it at that for now. I wish you well even though I strongly disagree with you on quite a few things, and even though I do not hope that you win this by-election. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 26, 2024 14:44:39 GMT
Judging by the available evidence, some people might think that you’re not very sharp, or that your campaigning might fall flat, or that the voters might quaver in their decision before voting for you, or they might come to the conclusion that you have only made a minim amount of persuasion to drum up support before reaching the finale of your campaign, or that you are using inefficient methods to trumpet your message to the electorate. even if he gets a few votes it would be accidental. A larger amount would meet with a crescendo of incredulity from most of us here. But who knows, maybe he has a greater bass than we realised. A greater bass might treble the vote? |
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