ColinJ
Labour
Living in the Past
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Post by ColinJ on Jul 30, 2024 8:17:34 GMT
That's a bit difficult for those of us who care about Caerphilly and Stirling - there is always the hope that the "latest post" might be an interesting update/observation about those by-elections.
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Post by sanders on Jul 30, 2024 8:18:40 GMT
I think the Labour posters know what's coming in Hillrise - I would feel the same if I were in the red room. Look Caerphilly, you will see updates about other places.
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Post by batman on Jul 30, 2024 8:36:55 GMT
I don't know what's coming, except it will not be you winning it, or coming remotely near. I will make a detailed prediction a day or so before as usual.
I would remind you that Labour is actually quite a long way ahead in the opinion polls and has been a long while. Not everybody in Britain viscerally hates Labour as you do. That doesn't mean that Hillrise will necessarily be held, but the Britain that actually exists out there is not the same as the one in your mind.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jul 30, 2024 8:42:14 GMT
If anybody is interested in the Caerphilly or Stirling by-elections, please let yourself heard.
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Post by sanders on Jul 30, 2024 8:42:47 GMT
I don't know what's coming, except it will not be you winning it, or coming remotely near. Why? I live on Hornsey Lane and have strong appeal to the Whitehall Park and Highgate parts of the ward. I'm not sure I get not coming remotely near? Wishcasting?
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Post by jakegb on Jul 30, 2024 8:45:38 GMT
16 pages for a local by-election thread is quite some doing.
Though there is some constructive criticism of sanders, some comments against him do come across as pompous, patronising and unnecessarily mean. And these points of personal criticism occur repeatedly; they're not one offs. So - in these circumstances - I can see why he is repeatedly posting on the thread; if he is facing snide digs/remarks, he has every right to respond.
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Post by batman on Jul 30, 2024 9:16:13 GMT
I don't know what's coming, except it will not be you winning it, or coming remotely near. Why? I live on Hornsey Lane and have strong appeal to the Whitehall Park and Highgate parts of the ward. I'm not sure I get not coming remotely near? Wishcasting? you are surely aware that your personality is not uniformly pleasing to a wide variety of people. Where you live does not alter that fact. You don't mean any harm, but you consistently annoy people. And although yes, I do want Labour to win it isn't wishcasting. There are plenty of people on here who have no particular skin in this game who are saying the same as me. What do you have to offer the people of Hillrise ward? Are you standing because you have something to offer or because it gives you something to bore us shitless with on this forum? I strongly believe that it is the latter. I hope I'm wrong. If that's pompous so be it. But while there has to be a certain degree of politeness I feel that the correct picture needs to be spelt out. And I have associated myself with people on here who have gone to quite a bit of trouble to steer this candidate clear of potential legal difficulty - efforts for which I'm not sure he has bothered to thank the people concerned.
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Post by sanders on Jul 30, 2024 9:42:08 GMT
Just for fun, here's my prediction:
Hillrise
Me 353 (22.4%) Thanda 331 (21%) Nettle 317 (20.2%) Wall 290 (18.4%) Stoecker 284 (18%)
Independent gain from Labour
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 30, 2024 10:03:34 GMT
you are surely aware that your personality is not uniformly pleasing to a wide variety of people. English understatement is my favourite thing
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Post by johnloony on Jul 30, 2024 10:43:34 GMT
I think that this is going to be the most keenly anticipated local by-election result this year (on this Forum at least), so fair play to weld/sanders for that. I disagree on this Tony. All this chatter is obscuring the real contests which are taking place on the 15th. Although the Hillrise by-election is potentially interesting, it is not because of this particular independent candidacy, and I for one can't wait for it to be finished. If anybody on this forum were particularly interested in, or had specific knowledge about, any of the candidates in any of the other by-elections on 15th August, then they would be talking about those as well. Why does it matter if people are not in fact talking about them? If people want to make predictions about them, the raw voting figures are available in the usual way.
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Sandy
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Post by Sandy on Jul 30, 2024 10:56:56 GMT
I think the Labour posters know what's coming in Hillrise - I would feel the same if I were in the red room. Look Caerphilly, you will see updates about other places. I don’t have a dog in the fight, and I see no evidence of this. You’re setting yourself up for a fall.
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Post by nobodyimportant on Jul 30, 2024 11:05:03 GMT
Just for fun, here's my prediction: Hillrise Me 353 (22.4%) Thanda 331 (21%) Nettle 317 (20.2%) Wall 290 (18.4%) Stoecker 284 (18%) Independent gain from Labour Leaving aside the vote share you give yourself, that sort of split is one that may happen once every couple of years on average, including in the regular May elections as well as by elections. It is an exceptionally rare outcome. I am not going to predict whether or not you manage 22 percent of the vote, but I do feel confident predicting that whoever wins this by election will win a higher vote share than that.
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 30, 2024 11:17:32 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 30, 2024 11:18:28 GMT
Just for fun, here's my prediction: Hillrise Me 353 (22.4%) Thanda 331 (21%) Nettle 317 (20.2%) Wall 290 (18.4%) Stoecker 284 (18%) Independent gain from Labour Leaving aside the vote share you give yourself, that sort of split is one that may happen once every couple of years on average, including in the regular May elections as well as by elections. It is an exceptionally rare outcome. I am not going to predict whether or not you manage 22 percent of the vote, but I do feel confident predicting that whoever wins this by election will win a higher vote share than that. Well I think the Lib Dems will hit a wall and the Greens will grasp the Nettle.
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Post by edgbaston on Jul 30, 2024 11:29:44 GMT
23, isn’t that a bit old for a council candidate these days, surely should at least be standing for parliament or up for Plaid’s next seat in the House of Lords
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jul 30, 2024 11:39:18 GMT
I think that this is going to be the most keenly anticipated local by-election result this year (on this Forum at least), so fair play to weld/sanders for that. I disagree on this Tony. All this chatter is obscuring the real contests which are taking place on the 15th. Although the Hillrise by-election is potentially interesting, it is not because of this particular independent candidacy, and I for one can't wait for it to be finished. I am increasingly of the view that we are unwilling participants in a piece of performance art.
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Post by norflondon on Jul 30, 2024 11:44:04 GMT
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jul 30, 2024 11:44:53 GMT
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 30, 2024 11:44:59 GMT
I disagree on this Tony. All this chatter is obscuring the real contests which are taking place on the 15th. Although the Hillrise by-election is potentially interesting, it is not because of this particular independent candidacy, and I for one can't wait for it to be finished. I am increasingly of the view that we are unwilling participants in a piece of performance art. It appears that you have made about 15 posts in this thread, none of which were related to by-elections in Caerphilly or Stirling. Who forced you to do that?
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 30, 2024 11:54:13 GMT
This is a particular by-election with a candidate who is a Forum member. That's good for me. If they don't partake, why bother? I find it interesting!
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