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Post by devolutionist on Jun 18, 2024 8:27:51 GMT
I agree. It's very rare for voters to complain that they're getting too many leaflets from any particular party. More commonly they complain of not getting enough information. The Greens get called hypocrites every time they stick a bit of paper through doors  |
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Post by Strontium Dog on Jun 18, 2024 9:28:40 GMT
I love how it's a police matter when people make an (admittedly stupid) mistake like this, but it wasn't when Labour, with malice aforethought, put out a leaflet with a 'LIB DEM CANDIDATE RESIGNS' headline in my dad's ward. |
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Post by davidh on Jun 18, 2024 11:40:52 GMT
I love how it's a police matter when people make an (admittedly stupid) mistake like this, but it wasn't when Labour, with malice aforethought, put out a leaflet with a 'LIB DEM CANDIDATE RESIGNS' headline in my dad's ward. I guess that would depend on the nature of what exactly it was claimed that the Lib Dem candidate had resigned from. I must admit, I didn't know this precise corner of the law but S106(5) is explicit about it relating to a candidate's withdrawal from the election, which appears - as far as I can see - to be the only exception to the rule about only false statements about a candidate's character or conduct being caught under that Section. |
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Post by Strontium Dog on Jun 18, 2024 12:45:50 GMT
I love how it's a police matter when people make an (admittedly stupid) mistake like this, but it wasn't when Labour, with malice aforethought, put out a leaflet with a 'LIB DEM CANDIDATE RESIGNS' headline in my dad's ward. I guess that would depend on the nature of what exactly it was claimed that the Lib Dem candidate had resigned from. I must admit, I didn't know this precise corner of the law but S106(5) is explicit about it relating to a candidate's withdrawal from the election, which appears - as far as I can see - to be the only exception to the rule about only false statements about a candidate's character or conduct being caught under that Section. Within the text it referred to a candidate from the opposite end of the country who had resigned as a candidate. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 18, 2024 12:47:23 GMT
Wasn't that at the Littleborough and Saddleworth byelection in 1995? Seem to remember some controversy about it.
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Post by devolutionist on Jun 18, 2024 12:51:36 GMT
I love how it's a police matter when people make an (admittedly stupid) mistake like this, but it wasn't when Labour, with malice aforethought, put out a leaflet with a 'LIB DEM CANDIDATE RESIGNS' headline in my dad's ward. The Green candidate admitted in the local press that they have an agreement with the Lib Dems to not campaign in H&K, so it seems all is forgiven. They also said that had the Lib Dems reached out to apologise to the Green candidate for the leaflet error they wouldn't have reported it to the police, and I have to say... I don't really understand why they didn't apologise. |
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Post by davidh on Jun 18, 2024 12:54:50 GMT
I guess that would depend on the nature of what exactly it was claimed that the Lib Dem candidate had resigned from. I must admit, I didn't know this precise corner of the law but S106(5) is explicit about it relating to a candidate's withdrawal from the election, which appears - as far as I can see - to be the only exception to the rule about only false statements about a candidate's character or conduct being caught under that Section. Within the text it referred to a candidate from the opposite end of the country who had resigned as a candidate. So there's your answer then. One leaflet was misleading but legal; the other lied over something where lies are illegal. |
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Post by devolutionist on Jun 20, 2024 6:52:22 GMT
Just realised that I've only received leaflets from the Liberal Democrats, Conservatives, and the independent Paul Haslam.
Labour, Reform, and the Greens haven't, it appears (thus far, suppose they could still come) even done the Royal Mail freepost.
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Post by batman on Jun 20, 2024 7:41:21 GMT
I haven't had anything from Labour in my constituency except a letter from the party nationally.
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Post by markgoodair on Jun 23, 2024 16:56:52 GMT
It has taken 4 weeks for the Conservatives to get their first leaflet out across the constituency.
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Post by devolutionist on Jun 24, 2024 9:26:39 GMT
Just realised that I've only received leaflets from the Liberal Democrats, Conservatives, and the independent Paul Haslam. Labour, Reform, and the Greens haven't, it appears (thus far, suppose they could still come) even done the Royal Mail freepost. Update: Just had the free mailing from Reform & Green Party Not acted very swiftly have they, considering people started receiving postal ballot papers on Saturday 17th. Only party I've not had one from is Labour. |
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Post by devolutionist on Jun 24, 2024 9:32:49 GMT
It has taken 4 weeks for the Conservatives to get their first leaflet out across the constituency. In Harrogate and Knaresborough? I'm not sure this is true? I've had two from Royal Mail. They used addressed for their free mailout, I received that before postal votes started landing. I've only seen two Conservative garden boards though, versus dozens of Lib Dem ones on my travels. Suspect the Tories are struggling with a combination of a lack of willing volunteers, their remaining once vocal supporters becoming shy Tory's, and central party probably determining that its a lost cause now and directing resources to other nearby seats which look like they are going to be much closer, like Skipton and Ripon and Selby. |
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Post by ArmchairCritic on Jun 24, 2024 10:39:07 GMT
It has taken 4 weeks for the Conservatives to get their first leaflet out across the constituency. In Harrogate and Knaresborough? I'm not sure this is true? I've had two from Royal Mail. They used addressed for their free mailout, I received that before postal votes started landing. I've only seen two Conservative garden boards though, versus dozens of Lib Dem ones on my travels. Suspect the Tories are struggling with a combination of a lack of willing volunteers, their remaining once vocal supporters becoming shy Tory's, and central party probably determining that its a lost cause now and directing resources to other nearby seats which look like they are going to be much closer, like Skipton and Ripon and Selby. If they lose Skipton & Ripon they are seriously fucked. I know Julien and he was always pretty popular when I have been out with him. |
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Post by Ron Swanson on Jun 24, 2024 10:48:55 GMT
Selby won't be all that close, the boundary changes are favourable to Labour.
I've met Keir Mather at a breakfast club a few months ago, nice lad.
I'd have thought Skipton & Ripon would be okay territory for the LDs? Clearly their activist base has taken a kicking in the last decade or so... I'd have that seat down as having a bit of something for everyone?
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 24, 2024 15:02:31 GMT
Their decision to stand down there at the 2017 GE didn't really help in that regard, I heard that not all local members were amused either.
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Post by richardh on Jun 24, 2024 15:21:10 GMT
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 24, 2024 15:26:26 GMT
Indeed! Can't say I met her, but certainly heard her ... |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 24, 2024 15:29:28 GMT
Just realised that I've only received leaflets from the Liberal Democrats, Conservatives, and the independent Paul Haslam. Labour, Reform, and the Greens haven't, it appears (thus far, suppose they could still come) even done the Royal Mail freepost. Update: Just had the free mailing from Reform & Green Party Not acted very swiftly have they, considering people started receiving postal ballot papers on Saturday 17th. Only party I've not had one from is Labour. Organising a leaflet, a printer and - big problem - getting Royal Mail to approve it and condescend to having it delivered to them takes time. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jun 24, 2024 16:33:06 GMT
Update: Just had the free mailing from Reform & Green Party Not acted very swiftly have they, considering people started receiving postal ballot papers on Saturday 17th. Only party I've not had one from is Labour. Organising a leaflet, a printer and - big problem - getting Royal Mail to approve it and condescend to having it delivered to them takes time. My candidate keeps having kittens because he's not received his freepost. I keep reminding him that there are something like 80-100 postcode sectors in the constiuency, as well as another 600-800 across the postcode area, and they will arrive when they arrive.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 24, 2024 17:38:37 GMT
Organising a leaflet, a printer and - big problem - getting Royal Mail to approve it and condescend to having it delivered to them takes time. My candidate keeps having kittens because he's not received his freepost. I keep reminding him that there are something like 80-100 postcode sectors in the constiuency, as well as another 600-800 across the postcode area, and they will arrive when they arrive. If they arrive ... |
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