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Post by aargauer on Jul 15, 2024 19:10:12 GMT
Robin Hood’s Bay is quite lovely too. Absolutely swarmed with tourists at this time of year though. Oh yes, that's definitely one.
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Post by aargauer on Jul 15, 2024 19:12:51 GMT
Tynemouth is gorgeous. I've lived there briefly and absolutely loved it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2024 19:14:21 GMT
Worthing's okay, but I think 'simply sublime' is a bit excessive. There are very few coastal towns in the UK that I would describe as such. Applecross Skinningrove.
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Post by samtheodoridi on Jul 16, 2024 13:53:26 GMT
Losing both Worthing seats feels almost personal to me. My father was born in the town, and it seems ironic that Labour won them both just six weeks after he passed away. Who would have thought it when it was not so long ago that they had no local representation at all? It was always the Lib Dems who were the bigger threat and used to run the council. I haven’t visited since 2005 when my grandfather passed away and we moved my grandmother up to Yorkshire to live closer to us. Has it become more raffish and studenty like Brighton has? I prefer to remember it as it was when I was growing up, and it being a seaside resort was always a bonus, although the fact the beach is shingle rather than sand was always a bit of a let down.. It's not particularly studenty as there isn't a University here, though there is a small amount of student accommodation (individual houses) dotted around that serves Northbrook College in West Durrington. Worthing has become younger than it used to be. In 2010 the electorate in Worthing West was 45% OAP - the highest percentage in the Country. One of the big shifts has been people moving down from London post lockdown. Worthing, along with Bournemouth, had the highest number of people working from home in the Country 2 years ago, which was made up largely of people who'd moved down knowing they didn't have to commute, and could be close to the seaside. The other point that is often overlooked is the amount of houses, particularly in Heene and Central wards, that have been converted into flats, bedsits and HMOs. People living in these converted houses are usually younger and more Liberal in their outlook and vote left, or don't vote at all.
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Post by jamesdoyle on Jul 17, 2024 9:29:34 GMT
Losing both Worthing seats feels almost personal to me. My father was born in the town, and it seems ironic that Labour won them both just six weeks after he passed away. Who would have thought it when it was not so long ago that they had no local representation at all? It was always the Lib Dems who were the bigger threat and used to run the council. I haven’t visited since 2005 when my grandfather passed away and we moved my grandmother up to Yorkshire to live closer to us. Has it become more raffish and studenty like Brighton has? I prefer to remember it as it was when I was growing up, and it being a seaside resort was always a bonus, although the fact the beach is shingle rather than sand was always a bit of a let down.. It's not particularly studenty as there isn't a University here, though there is a small amount of student accommodation (individual houses) dotted around that serves Northbrook College in West Durrington. Worthing has become younger than it used to be. In 2010 the electorate in Worthing West was 45% OAP - the highest percentage in the Country. One of the big shifts has been people moving down from London post lockdown. Worthing, along with Bournemouth, had the highest number of people working from home in the Country 2 years ago, which was made up largely of people who'd moved down knowing they didn't have to commute, and could be close to the seaside. The other point that is often overlooked is the amount of houses, particularly in Heene and Central wards, that have been converted into flats, bedsits and HMOs. People living in these converted houses are usually younger and more Liberal in their outlook and vote left, or don't vote at all. This is pretty much it. If I had to come up with a phrase, I'd say Worthing isn;t studenty, it's 'post-studenty'. Late 20s, early 30s, settling down and mayb e thinking about starting a family. Not all have high-paying jobs but a lot do, and others are very much doing the thing they want to do at the same time as something else that pays the bills.
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Post by rr on Jul 17, 2024 10:00:48 GMT
The Conservatives are really going to have to try and re-connect with young, aspirational voters if they are to stand a chance long-term.
People forget that the party's current obsession with pensioners ("quadruple lock") is a very recent phenomenon. The Thatcher government was the one that cut the pensions/earnings link!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2024 10:09:52 GMT
Tories might struggle getting this back
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Post by ccoleman on Jul 17, 2024 10:11:51 GMT
The Conservatives are really going to have to try and re-connect with young, aspirational voters if they are to stand a chance long-term. People forget that the party's current obsession with pensioners ("quadruple lock") is a very recent phenomenon. The Thatcher government was the one that cut the pensions/earnings link! Indeed. It's easy to forget that the Tories polled around 32% among 18-29 year olds in 2015, not far behind Labour at 36%. Now they are polling at 10% or less among 18-24 year olds, and only around 14% among 25-49 year olds. Chasing after the grey vote made sense in the short-term for the party, but in the medium to long term they have kind of effed themselves over.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2024 10:20:19 GMT
This has all the feel of Sefton Central 2010, and the Brighton effect is not too dissimilar in terms of its impact as the Merseyside effect.
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