bsjmcr
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Post by bsjmcr on Jul 6, 2024 16:05:21 GMT
I only realised this morning thatNigel Evans had lost his seat. Too many Portillo moments mean that their impact is much less. And piss poor declaration coverage across the broadcasters with too much focus on the talking heads. Coffey was another one that was blink and you’ll miss it. I found myself constantly flicking through all four of them throughout though I think sky was just about the best, with ITV surprisingly good. The BBC disappointed despite the ramping of having a camera at each count.
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Post by iain on Jul 6, 2024 16:59:39 GMT
I only realised this morning thatNigel Evans had lost his seat. Too many Portillo moments mean that their impact is much less. And piss poor declaration coverage across the broadcasters with too much focus on the talking heads. Coffey was another one that was blink and you’ll miss it. I found myself constantly flicking through all four of them throughout though I think sky was just about the best, with ITV surprisingly good. The BBC disappointed despite the ramping of having a camera at each count. Sky showed more declarations, but the ever-useless Kay Burley talked over the top of half of them.
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Post by rcronald on Jul 6, 2024 17:06:42 GMT
I only realised this morning thatNigel Evans had lost his seat. Too many Portillo moments mean that their impact is much less. And piss poor declaration coverage across the broadcasters with too much focus on the talking heads. Coffey was another one that was blink and you’ll miss it. I found myself constantly flicking through all four of them throughout though I think sky was just about the best, with ITV surprisingly good. The BBC disappointed despite the ramping of having a camera at each count. I was forced to watch Sky (I really don’t like Kay Burley) because ITV and the BBC aren’t available in Israel, but I generally preferred ITV’s coverage in 2015,2017, and 2019.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Jul 6, 2024 18:30:13 GMT
Evans losing was one of the lesser highlights of the evening.
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Post by batman on Jul 6, 2024 20:06:33 GMT
Did not see this coming and surprised that there was no coverage even on North West news given Nigel Evans is recognisable as a deputy speaker, feel a bit sorry for him. Even more shocking is them losing this but clinging on to Fylde after all the damage Menzies caused (even if he wasn't the candidate). Would have been happy to swap Fylde with this! I tend to think that given the demography of the two seats it's relatively unsurprising. Although Labour is a bit less weak than it once was in Fylde, it really isn't the sort of area where Labour should generally win, even in extremely strong years. Ribble Valley on its current boundaries does seem to have more potential (well, it's not potential any more is it, but you know what I mean) though on its older boundaries it was almost equally tough
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Post by Andrew_S on Jul 7, 2024 1:26:01 GMT
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jul 7, 2024 6:35:39 GMT
I gasped at seeing Fylde as a hold, thought the whole of Lancashire would be turning red.
Evans not getting the coverage he perhaps deserves after 30 years is maybe more undignified than losing his seat. Big enough beast to be a shock, not big enough to make the headlines. That's showbiz!
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cogload
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Post by cogload on Jul 7, 2024 9:49:15 GMT
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Post by mrsir on Jul 7, 2024 9:51:26 GMT
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cogload
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Post by cogload on Jul 7, 2024 9:53:20 GMT
He looks shattered. It is a lovely little video though and very classy.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 7, 2024 9:54:32 GMT
I gasped at seeing Fylde as a hold, thought the whole of Lancashire would be turning red. Evans not getting the coverage he perhaps deserves after 30 years is maybe more undignified than losing his seat. Big enough beast to be a shock, not big enough to make the headlines. That's showbiz! Well also the fact that there's quite a lot of other headlines to compete with. Jay Slater wouldn't be getting a lot of coverage if he'd gone missing overseas in July 1916..
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Post by greenhert on Jul 7, 2024 10:04:37 GMT
Did not see this coming and surprised that there was no coverage even on North West news given Nigel Evans is recognisable as a deputy speaker, feel a bit sorry for him. Even more shocking is them losing this but clinging on to Fylde after all the damage Menzies caused (even if he wasn't the candidate). Would have been happy to swap Fylde with this! Fylde has a much more solid Conservative base due to in no small part the affluence of Lytham St Anne's, which remained resolutely Conservative even in last year's local elections.
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Post by andrewp on Jul 7, 2024 10:11:41 GMT
He doesn’t look well in that video.
The boundary changes here helped Labour slightly, Evans might just have held on the old boundaries- it would have been even closer though. As discussed before the election, the name of this seat is a little bit misleading. Labour clearly did very well here but quite a lot of the electorate is in the Preston suburbs now rather than in the Ribble Valley. The Conservatives would have been ahead on Thursday in the part of the constituency that people would think of as the Ribble Valley.
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Post by heslingtonian on Jul 7, 2024 10:39:23 GMT
Did not see this coming and surprised that there was no coverage even on North West news given Nigel Evans is recognisable as a deputy speaker, feel a bit sorry for him. Even more shocking is them losing this but clinging on to Fylde after all the damage Menzies caused (even if he wasn't the candidate). Would have been happy to swap Fylde with this! Fylde has a much more solid Conservative base due to in no small part the affluence of Lytham St Anne's, which remained resolutely Conservative even in last year's local elections. Isn't Fylde also pretty much Retirement Central? Also I think the Conservatives probably made a smart choice in picking the former Lancashire PCC in Fylde as clearly he was someone who knew the patch who couldn’t be depicted as a carpetbagger like certain others.
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Post by rcronald on Jul 7, 2024 13:03:18 GMT
Seeing this is a good reminder that 99.9% of political careers end in some sort of failure.
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Post by bsjmcr on Jul 7, 2024 13:55:41 GMT
Fylde has a much more solid Conservative base due to in no small part the affluence of Lytham St Anne's, which remained resolutely Conservative even in last year's local elections. Isn't Fylde also pretty much Retirement Central? So is Poole and look what happened there, and the Tory incumbent didn’t seem to be particularly controversial (I’d never heard of him)
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Post by Ron Swanson on Jul 7, 2024 15:31:49 GMT
He doesn’t look well in that video. The boundary changes here helped Labour slightly, Evans might just have held on the old boundaries- it would have been even closer though. As discussed before the election, the name of this seat is a little bit misleading. Labour clearly did very well here but quite a lot of the electorate is in the Preston suburbs now rather than in the Ribble Valley. The Conservatives would have been ahead on Thursday in the part of the constituency that people would think of as the Ribble Valley. He looks to have aged a lot, in a short period of time. And looks pretty drawn...
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jul 7, 2024 17:20:48 GMT
Fylde has a much more solid Conservative base due to in no small part the affluence of Lytham St Anne's, which remained resolutely Conservative even in last year's local elections. Isn't Fylde also pretty much Retirement Central? Also I think the Conservatives probably made a smart choice in picking the former Lancashire PCC in Fylde as clearly he was someone who knew the patch who couldn’t be depicted as a carpetbagger like certain others. Fylde isn't ENTIRELY God's Waiting Room. On sunny days Lytham is full of the ladies who lunch and the men who made money rather than grey haired nannas (and if course the 70 year olds of times past do not look like the 70 year olds of today, but that's another discussion) Kirkham is quite urban and more Preston-y. Freckleton is quite cosy and smart. I wonder what new housing developments will do here. Preston is starting to threaten to bleed over the border and there's plenty of prime building land.
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Post by batman on Jul 7, 2024 18:28:29 GMT
Basically Lytham St Annes & some of the villages are strongly retiree-influenced. (My grandparents & also several great-uncles & -aunts retired there. Grandma & Grandpa tended towards Labour, the great-aunts & -uncles were solidly Tory.) Freckleton, Warton, Kirkham & Wesham much less so. Labour would have been stronger in the latter areas, but none of them is really Labour-inclined in an even year. It normally requires Labour to be well ahead in the opinion polls before the party starts even winning the odd seat in this constituency/borough.
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Post by ideal4radio on Jul 8, 2024 22:40:26 GMT
I know the area, that video was recorded right outside his front door, having just got back from the count ... classy remarks to be fair !
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