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Post by stb12 on Mar 13, 2024 23:06:15 GMT
Ribble Valley
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Mar 14, 2024 6:34:49 GMT
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Post by ideal4radio on Apr 12, 2024 21:01:00 GMT
If Ribble Valley swings from Conservative to Labour, I should be extremely surprised !! I haven't got a hat to eat, nor do I have sawdust to plait ... you get my drift !!
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Post by finsobruce on Apr 12, 2024 21:17:07 GMT
If Ribble Valley swings from Conservative to Labour, I should be extremely surprised !! I haven't got a hat to eat, nor do I have sawdust to plait ... you get my drift !! Presume you mean you don't think it'll swing far enough for Labour to win? - there will undoubtedly be a swing of some sort to Labour and probably quite a large one.
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Post by ideal4radio on Apr 12, 2024 22:59:38 GMT
If Ribble Valley swings from Conservative to Labour, I should be extremely surprised !! I haven't got a hat to eat, nor do I have sawdust to plait ... you get my drift !! Presume you mean you don't think it'll swing far enough for Labour to win? - there will undoubtedly be a swing of some sort to Labour and probably quite a large one. Indeed my friend, you read me correctly !!
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Post by European Lefty on Apr 12, 2024 23:27:35 GMT
What happened with the two wards from the district elections last year where it turned out that a few voters had voted in the wrong ward?
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Post by YL on Apr 13, 2024 9:17:40 GMT
What happened with the two wards from the district elections last year where it turned out that a few voters had voted in the wrong ward? The narrowly defeated Conservative candidates in both affected wards decided not to launch a petition because of the costs of doing so: story here.
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Post by bsjmcr on Apr 13, 2024 11:52:17 GMT
This must have been one of the best Conservative results in 1997, there was hardly any swing away from them and Evans was elected by almost the same majority. Then again, one could say the ‘1997-esque’ swing had already occurred in 1992 in the wake of the by-election the year before, and the LDs had hit a pretty hard ceiling, on a general election basis at least, despite their sensational victory in 1991.
Whilst Evans hails from the South Wales valleys, he seems to have made himself part of the furniture in this very different valley.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 13, 2024 19:07:22 GMT
This must have been one of the best Conservative results in 1997, there was hardly any swing away from them and Evans was elected by almost the same majority. Then again, one could say the ‘1997-esque’ swing had already occurred in 1992 in the wake of the by-election the year before, and the LDs had hit a pretty hard ceiling, on a general election basis at least, despite their sensational victory in 1991. Whilst Evans hails from the South Wales valleys, he seems to have made himself part of the furniture in this very different valley. A thought. Do outsiders who get stuck in end up with a bigger moat than locals? You're not stuck in the ancient grudges etc. You don't have that latent negative vote built on years of personal relationships.
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Post by where2travel on Apr 13, 2024 22:30:55 GMT
This must have been one of the best Conservative results in 1997, there was hardly any swing away from them and Evans was elected by almost the same majority. Then again, one could say the ‘1997-esque’ swing had already occurred in 1992 in the wake of the by-election the year before, and the LDs had hit a pretty hard ceiling, on a general election basis at least, despite their sensational victory in 1991. Whilst Evans hails from the South Wales valleys, he seems to have made himself part of the furniture in this very different valley. You're right that the 1997 swing flattered the Tories because the 1992 result was so poor for them (relatively speaking). In 1992 they didn't manage to unwind much of the damage done in the 1991 by-election (but enough to win back the seat). In 1987 the Tories were on an over 60% vote share and 40% majority. Post-by-election the majority was only 12% in 1992. 1997 was no more than just unravelling a bit more of the by-election damage.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on May 21, 2024 22:20:56 GMT
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on May 21, 2024 22:22:07 GMT
Coming a long long time after:
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Post by ideal4radio on Jun 4, 2024 22:20:46 GMT
I can see this seat of Ribble Valley causing some confusion ...
Clitheroe is the administrative centre of Ribble Valley Borough Council, but the town of Clitheroe is not in this Constituency, It consists of 4 Wards from the City of Preston, 7 Wards from South Ribble Borough Council and 17 Wards from Ribble Valley Borough Council. The Clitheroe Residents will join with most of the old Pendle Constituency, including Nelson, Colne, Barrowford and Earby to form " Pendle and Clitheroe ". The two Pendle Council Wards based in Reedley ( between Burnley and Nelson ) which were part of the old Pendle Constituency, will now be in the " Burnley " Constituency ...
Confused ? So am I, and I live in the area ..
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jun 5, 2024 8:31:23 GMT
I can see this seat of Ribble Valley causing some confusion ... Clitheroe is the administrative centre of Ribble Valley Borough Council, but the town of Clitheroe is not in this Constituency, It consists of 4 Wards from the City of Preston, 7 Wards from South Ribble Borough Council and 17 Wards from Ribble Valley Borough Council. The Clitheroe Residents will join with most of the old Pendle Constituency, including Nelson, Colne, Barrowford and Earby to form " Pendle and Clitheroe ". The two Pendle Council Wards based in Reedley ( between Burnley and Nelson ) which were part of the old Pendle Constituency, will now be in the " Burnley " Constituency ... Confused ? So am I, and I live in the area .. If we get votes at 16 a new review might be started soon after, so I imagine boundaries here will be tidied up.
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Post by hullenedge on Jun 5, 2024 8:38:23 GMT
I can see this seat of Ribble Valley causing some confusion ... Clitheroe is the administrative centre of Ribble Valley Borough Council, but the town of Clitheroe is not in this Constituency, It consists of 4 Wards from the City of Preston, 7 Wards from South Ribble Borough Council and 17 Wards from Ribble Valley Borough Council. The Clitheroe Residents will join with most of the old Pendle Constituency, including Nelson, Colne, Barrowford and Earby to form " Pendle and Clitheroe ". The two Pendle Council Wards based in Reedley ( between Burnley and Nelson ) which were part of the old Pendle Constituency, will now be in the " Burnley " Constituency ... Confused ? So am I, and I live in the area .. If we get votes at 16 a new review might be started soon after, so I imagine boundaries here will be tidied up. But will they? The 'old' Clitheroe was an odd shape. Perhaps it's a feature for North Lancashire given the centres of population and historic links.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jun 5, 2024 8:42:23 GMT
If we get votes at 16 a new review might be started soon after, so I imagine boundaries here will be tidied up. But will they? The 'old' Clitheroe was an odd shape. Perhaps it's a feature for North Lancashire given the centres of population and historic links. Yeah true. The eastern towns have proven difficult because the Commission can't cross the Pennines and tend to treat Greater Manchester on its own. If the numbers work they could just revert the changes and put Clitheroe back in RV .
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Post by hullenedge on Jun 5, 2024 8:54:46 GMT
But will they? The 'old' Clitheroe was an odd shape. Perhaps it's a feature for North Lancashire given the centres of population and historic links. Yeah true. The eastern towns have proven difficult because the Commission can't cross the Pennines and tend to treat Greater Manchester on its own. If the numbers work they could just revert the changes and put Clitheroe back in RV . We'll accept Saddleworth if it helps! Hopefully the BCE will treat Gt Man as part of Lancs and Cheshire for the next review.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jun 7, 2024 16:59:41 GMT
Ribble Valley
Statement of Persons Nominated
Qasim AJMI. (Independent) John CARROLL (Reform UK) Maya ELLIS (Labour Party) Nigel EVANS (The Conservative Party Candidate) Caroline MONTAGUE (Green Party) John POTTER (Liberal Democrats)
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Post by bsjmcr on Jul 6, 2024 14:11:01 GMT
Did not see this coming and surprised that there was no coverage even on North West news given Nigel Evans is recognisable as a deputy speaker, feel a bit sorry for him. Even more shocking is them losing this but clinging on to Fylde after all the damage Menzies caused (even if he wasn't the candidate). Would have been happy to swap Fylde with this!
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Post by johnloony on Jul 6, 2024 14:42:39 GMT
I only realised this morning thatNigel Evans had lost his seat. Too many Portillo moments mean that their impact is much less.
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