stb12
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Post by stb12 on Mar 13, 2024 22:55:18 GMT
Manchester Rusholme
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Post by timrollpickering on Jun 6, 2024 17:41:57 GMT
The Conservative candidate is Alexandra Marsanu.
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Post by carolus on Jun 7, 2024 21:56:11 GMT
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john07
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Post by john07 on Jun 7, 2024 23:07:15 GMT
Calling this constituency Rusholme seems bizarre. I am not ever sure that the whole of what I would describe as Rusholme is included.
It looks very similar to the old Moss Side seat somewhat extended to the east.
I would have stuck with Moss Side even though there is probably very little of the old area that I would recognise after nearly fifty years away.
I suppose they could call it the Curry Mile constituency. However the last time I was there the range of curry restaurants was very limited and replaced by more generic Middle Eastern cuisine.
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Post by greenhert on Jun 8, 2024 7:01:58 GMT
Perhaps the Liberal Democrat candidate handed in their nomination papers too late. |
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Post by bigfatron on Jun 8, 2024 7:22:47 GMT
Error in the nomination papers as I understand it...
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Post by greenhert on Jun 9, 2024 10:37:17 GMT
Who will benefit most from the Liberal Democrats' absence in this new (or rather recreated) constituency? Theoretically the Greens should benefit most.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 9, 2024 11:31:17 GMT
Who will benefit most from the Liberal Democrats' absence in this new (or rather recreated) constituency? Theoretically the Greens should benefit most. They have a notional 4% of the vote in 2019 against nearly 80% for Labour. Its not as if their presence on the ballot paper, or the lack of it, is going to trouble the scorers. |
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Post by bsjmcr on Jun 9, 2024 12:20:00 GMT
Calling this constituency Rusholme seems bizarre. I am not ever sure that the whole of what I would describe as Rusholme is included. It looks very similar to the old Moss Side seat somewhat extended to the east. I would have stuck with Moss Side even though there is probably very little of the old area that I would recognise after nearly fifty years away. I suppose they could call it the Curry Mile constituency. However the last time I was there the range of curry restaurants was very limited and replaced by more generic Middle Eastern cuisine. Wasn’t it originally going to be called Longsight which would just be a comical name to any outsider and pun-worthy. I’d like to think Rusholme is reasonably well-known and central, though so is Moss Side even if for the wrong reasons (historically). Hulme is probably unpronounceable to the outsider, but so is Blackley… |
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Post by Wisconsin on Jun 9, 2024 13:38:20 GMT
Wasn’t it originally going to be called Longsight which would just be a comical name to any outsider and pun-worthy. I always loved going past the Longsight Library. |
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Post by John Chanin on Jun 9, 2024 14:16:06 GMT
I suppose they could call it the Curry Mile constituency. However the last time I was there the range of curry restaurants was very limited and replaced by more generic Middle Eastern cuisine. This is social change, which we have in Birmingham too. Why would you go out and eat food you cook at home? The trickle of middle eastern immigrants provide an attractive alternative. Here there is also a proliferation of boring fried chicken shops, and of dessert shops, typical of muslim countries. Traditional 'curry houses' now serve white customers for whom the food is still different from what they eat at home, but require a higher quality than the old cheap cafes. And there is a big problem in getting competent cooks, for all the moaning about immigration, the people who immigrate aren't cooks of asian food. And the location for such restaurants therefore needs now to be outside the centres of south asian settlement. The 'balti triangle' in Birmingham is now most notable for the absence of balti restaurants. |
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Post by owainsutton on Jun 9, 2024 18:11:40 GMT
I suppose they could call it the Curry Mile constituency. However the last time I was there the range of curry restaurants was very limited and replaced by more generic Middle Eastern cuisine. This is social change, which we have in Birmingham too. Why would you go out and eat food you cook at home? The trickle of middle eastern immigrants provide an attractive alternative. Here there is also a proliferation of boring fried chicken shops, and of dessert shops, typical of muslim countries. Traditional 'curry houses' now serve white customers for whom the food is still different from what they eat at home, but require a higher quality than the old cheap cafes. And there is a big problem in getting competent cooks, for all the moaning about immigration, the people who immigrate aren't cooks of asian food. And the location for such restaurants therefore needs now to be outside the centres of south asian settlement. The 'balti triangle' in Birmingham is now most notable for the absence of balti restaurants. Generational demographic change. Post-war, Rusholme & Moss Side were also major locations for immigration from Ireland. Few obvious indications of that now. |
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Post by john07 on Jun 9, 2024 20:32:07 GMT
This is social change, which we have in Birmingham too. Why would you go out and eat food you cook at home? The trickle of middle eastern immigrants provide an attractive alternative. Here there is also a proliferation of boring fried chicken shops, and of dessert shops, typical of muslim countries. Traditional 'curry houses' now serve white customers for whom the food is still different from what they eat at home, but require a higher quality than the old cheap cafes. And there is a big problem in getting competent cooks, for all the moaning about immigration, the people who immigrate aren't cooks of asian food. And the location for such restaurants therefore needs now to be outside the centres of south asian settlement. The 'balti triangle' in Birmingham is now most notable for the absence of balti restaurants. Generational demographic change. Post-war, Rusholme & Moss Side were also major locations for immigration from Ireland. Few obvious indications of that now. Back in the 1970s, while Moss Side was very safe Labour, Rusholme, by contrast, was solidly Tory and was the seat, of the leading-light of the Manchester Conservatives, Dame Kathleen Ollerenshaw for 25 years. Dame Kathleen was a polymath who was a part-time lecturer in Maths at Manchester University as well as advisor to Margaret Thatcher not to mention a former Lord Mayor of Manchester. She was a member of the Timpson family. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2024 20:34:01 GMT
It's easier to think of better constituency names after the event. Longsight is 20/20.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jun 10, 2024 8:27:37 GMT
I suppose they could call it the Curry Mile constituency. However the last time I was there the range of curry restaurants was very limited and replaced by more generic Middle Eastern cuisine. This is social change, which we have in Birmingham too. Why would you go out and eat food you cook at home? The trickle of middle eastern immigrants provide an attractive alternative. Here there is also a proliferation of boring fried chicken shops, and of dessert shops, typical of muslim countries. Traditional 'curry houses' now serve white customers for whom the food is still different from what they eat at home, but require a higher quality than the old cheap cafes. And there is a big problem in getting competent cooks, for all the moaning about immigration, the people who immigrate aren't cooks of asian food. And the location for such restaurants therefore needs now to be outside the centres of south asian settlement. The 'balti triangle' in Birmingham is now most notable for the absence of balti restaurants. The 'exotic' nature of curry to a drab, grey UK before my time (sorry, 1980 here) been to fade as it became so ubiquitous and easy to make at home. Migration policy has played a part (see : "Measures introduced to “significantly reduce” non-EU migration raised fresh fears for curry houses. From April last year, restaurants that want to employ a chef from outside the EU have to pay a minimum salary of £35,000 or £29,750 with accommodation and food – for employees to get visas.
A Home Office spokesperson said: “Using illegal labour is not victimless. It cheats the taxpayer, undercuts honest businesses and cheats legitimate jobseekers of employment opportunities. We are happy to work with businesses to ensure the right pre-employment checks are carried out, but we take robust action against employers who deliberately flout the rules.
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Post by carolus on Jun 10, 2024 9:04:16 GMT
The SOPN has been updated to add an invalid LD nomination "Nomination Paper Invalid - Nomination Paper not subscribed as required by law.".
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Post by timrollpickering on Jun 10, 2024 10:28:13 GMT
With only nine signatures listed. I assume the tenth was either not on the register, an EU voter or someone who signed for another candidate who submitted first.
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Post by carolus on Jun 10, 2024 10:36:48 GMT
With only nine signatures listed. I assume the yenth was either not on the register, an EU voter or someone who signed for another candidate who submitted first. I think I've seen it suggested that they were an EU citizen who was therefore on the register for local elections but not eligible to sign - which then slipped past both the informal check and the party. |
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Post by owainsutton on Jun 10, 2024 16:26:36 GMT
With only nine signatures listed. I assume the yenth was either not on the register, an EU voter or someone who signed for another candidate who submitted first. I think I've seen it suggested that they were an EU citizen who was therefore on the register for local elections but not eligible to sign - which then slipped past both the informal check and the party. Ouch, that would be an awkward but easy-to-make mistake.
I wonder what the "informal check" actually consisted of. Could be that they had no appointment, and in the rush of the last day in particular, it was nothing more than "flick through the papers to make sure nothing obvious has been omitted".
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Post by right on Jun 18, 2024 21:11:48 GMT
Communist League literature electionleaflets.org/leaflets/19502/Interesting for a fat left outfit they're defending Ukraine and Israel as well as Cuba, and also fighting Cancel Culture The candidates says he writes for Militant, but those aren't the Militant newspaper's positions are they? |
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