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Post by stb12 on Mar 13, 2024 22:53:33 GMT
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Post by bsjmcr on May 23, 2024 12:40:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2024 15:18:28 GMT
This would have been fertile territory, even more so than Leigh, for Andy Burnham, but unlikely given his recent re-election as Mayor. Burnham has had a go at making it to the very top of national politics and it didn't work out too well. Now he's in a position where he's more popular than almost all MPs could ever be and he'd be silly to give that up for another shot at Westminster politics. |
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Post by bsjmcr on May 23, 2024 15:20:51 GMT
This would have been fertile territory, even more so than Leigh, for Andy Burnham, but unlikely given his recent re-election as Mayor. Burnham has had a go at making it to the very top of national politics and it didn't work out too well. Now he's in a position where he's more popular than almost all MPs could ever be and he'd be silly to give that up for another shot at Westminster politics. Worked out well for Johnson though (until it all came down). Plus he was still mayor for another year when elected back to parliament in 2015 - there was no mayoral by-election. |
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Post by markgoodair on May 23, 2024 15:22:58 GMT
Burnham has had a go at making it to the very top of national politics and it didn't work out too well. Now he's in a position where he's more popular than almost all MPs could ever be and he'd be silly to give that up for another shot at Westminster politics. Worked out well for Johnson though (until it all came down). Plus he was still mayor for another year when elected back to parliament in 2015 - there was no mayoral by-election. Why become a small fish in a big pond when you are already a big fish in a small pond? |
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Post by johnloony on May 23, 2024 16:25:50 GMT
Worked out well for Johnson though (until it all came down). Plus he was still mayor for another year when elected back to parliament in 2015 - there was no mayoral by-election. Why become a small fish in a big pond when you are already a big fish in a small pond? Because I want to help the big pond win elections. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on May 24, 2024 8:25:20 GMT
Burnham is far more powerful as Mayor than MP.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on May 30, 2024 5:58:52 GMT
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Post by bsjmcr on May 30, 2024 7:53:00 GMT
Seems like an odd fit for Makerfield (if he has no local links that is, which seems to be the case) , appears better suited to Islington North? Similarities with Mandelson in Hartlepool? And before anyone says, yes Andy Burnham did go to Cambridge and worked as a Labour advisor in London but at least he grew up next to Leigh… |
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Post by batman on May 30, 2024 8:27:21 GMT
he appears to be Manchester-based
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2024 8:29:56 GMT
Burnham is far more powerful as Mayor than MP. Why become a legislator when you can be a powerful executive? |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on May 30, 2024 16:06:10 GMT
I'm not sure he's meaningfully less local than Nandy was, and she doesn't seem to have had any problem getting established locally in Wigan.
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Post by Sibboleth on May 30, 2024 16:20:34 GMT
Mandelson was quite well-liked in Hartlepool, certainly more so than his predecessor, who was a local.
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Post by carlton43 on May 31, 2024 9:14:53 GMT
Seems like an odd fit for Makerfield (if he has no local links that is, which seems to be the case) , appears better suited to Islington North? Similarities with Mandelson in Hartlepool? And before anyone says, yes Andy Burnham did go to Cambridge and worked as a Labour advisor in London but at least he grew up next to Leigh… You, of course, would prefer some gormless dull-as-ditchwater plodder councillor who had been born and lived all his life there! |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on May 31, 2024 14:08:54 GMT
Seems like an odd fit for Makerfield (if he has no local links that is, which seems to be the case) , appears better suited to Islington North? Similarities with Mandelson in Hartlepool? And before anyone says, yes Andy Burnham did go to Cambridge and worked as a Labour advisor in London but at least he grew up next to Leigh… You, of course, would prefer some gormless dull-as-ditchwater plodder councillor who had been born and lived all his life there! Why not? Local people know the local area and can be attractive to local voters. This is a very insular constituency, it's barely connected to Wigan let alone Greater Manchester more generally. Sometimes seats aren't suited to outsiders with parachute and influence. |
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Post by carlton43 on May 31, 2024 14:22:19 GMT
You, of course, would prefer some gormless dull-as-ditchwater plodder councillor who had been born and lived all his life there! Why not? Local people know the local area and can be attractive to local voters. This is a very insular constituency, it's barely connected to Wigan let alone Greater Manchester more generally. Sometimes seats aren't suited to outsiders with parachute and influence. Yes quite! It is in darkest Lancashire!! The incel and incest capital of the universe. 'Here we expect local candidates for local people with local small minds who have never been away.....ever!' |
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Post by finsobruce on May 31, 2024 14:40:56 GMT
You, of course, would prefer some gormless dull-as-ditchwater plodder councillor who had been born and lived all his life there! Why not? Local people know the local area and can be attractive to local voters. This is a very insular constituency, it's barely connected to Wigan let alone Greater Manchester more generally. Sometimes seats aren't suited to outsiders with parachute and influence. Or completely unattractive.
Good Lord dok, you make it sound like it's on the dark side of the moon.
"This is a local seat for local people".
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on May 31, 2024 15:14:05 GMT
Why not? Local people know the local area and can be attractive to local voters. This is a very insular constituency, it's barely connected to Wigan let alone Greater Manchester more generally. Sometimes seats aren't suited to outsiders with parachute and influence. Or completely unattractive.
Good Lord dok, you make it sound like it's on the dark side of the moon.
"This is a local seat for local people".
Some parts of Lancashire are like that. Very insular, difficult road and rail connections, tend to work close to family, can't always afford to move to Manchester at the best of times never mind these days. Just thinking of my office, the majority of us are Preston born, Preston educated, very few of us travel very often. That's common, very common. |
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Post by john07 on May 31, 2024 15:44:42 GMT
Or completely unattractive.
Good Lord dok, you make it sound like it's on the dark side of the moon.
"This is a local seat for local people".
Some parts of Lancashire are like that. Very insular, difficult road and rail connections, tend to work close to family, can't always afford to move to Manchester at the best of times never mind these days. Just thinking of my office, the majority of us are Preston born, Preston educated, very few of us travel very often. That's common, very common. Despite having the premier railway station in Lancashire and a bus station? |
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Post by rcronald on May 31, 2024 17:53:33 GMT
Why not? Local people know the local area and can be attractive to local voters. This is a very insular constituency, it's barely connected to Wigan let alone Greater Manchester more generally. Sometimes seats aren't suited to outsiders with parachute and influence. Yes quite! It is in darkest Lancashire!! The incel and incest capital of the universe. 'Here we expect local candidates for local people with local small minds who have never been away.....ever!' 🤣😭🤣 |
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