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Post by jamesdoyle on Aug 16, 2024 9:18:00 GMT
What an absurd woman and what an absurd bunch of people that she represents. Michaela Trite would be more an apt name So, she likes gentrification, but not *too* much gentrification? And she gets to decide how much is too much...? I'm inclined to agree with you, Pete. |
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Post by aargauer on Aug 16, 2024 9:19:49 GMT
What they actually mean by "gentrified" isn't that it isn't a shithole anymore, rather than its a shithole that also has some low income but pretentious people who think they are better than everyone because they are spending every penny they don't have on being part of the "urban elite", the real members thereof who wouldn't be seen dead in Walthamstow.
The same people who have those ridiculous indoor shutters you only see in London. If you want shutters, put them on the outside, and get your windows to open the other way.
People who say absurd things like "I don't feel guilty that my property has tripled in value because of gentrification... everyone should be able to afford to live here. "
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 16, 2024 9:30:18 GMT
I understand that at one point Gail's were quite major donors to the Conservative Party, but I don't think they are now. I can't find any record of that - Luke Johnson certainly was but in a personal rather than a corporate capacity I think. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 16, 2024 11:13:42 GMT
What an absurd woman and what an absurd bunch of people that she represents. Michaela Trite would be more an apt name That she doesn't want Gail's but fawns over a posh branch of Spar sums the whole nonsense up. |
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Post by bjornhattan on Aug 16, 2024 11:23:40 GMT
What they actually mean by "gentrified" isn't that it isn't a shithole anymore, rather than its a shithole that also has some low income but pretentious people who think they are better than everyone because they are spending every penny they don't have on being part of the "urban elite", the real members thereof who wouldn't be seen dead in Walthamstow. The same people who have those ridiculous indoor shutters you only see in London. If you want shutters, put them on the outside, and get your windows to open the other way. People who say absurd things like "I don't feel guilty that my property has tripled in value because of gentrification... everyone should be able to afford to live here. " The average property prices in Walthamstow, and neighbouring Hackney which is rather similar if a little further along, are now on par with actually nice parts of the capital. The median price paid in the central part of Walthamstow (not the village) was £515,000 - exactly the same as East Putney and just £10,000 less than Rotherhithe... I know which of those three I'd choose to live in and which I wouldn't! |
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Post by johnloony on Aug 16, 2024 11:34:45 GMT
I don’t think I’ve heard of Gail’s bakery before, but now I want to go to it just to annoy the people who don’t understand how market forces work.
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Post by batman on Aug 16, 2024 11:59:19 GMT
I actually buy their bread regularly, usually from Waitrose but occasionally from the Gail's branch near Kew Gardens station. It's actually very good. I have never sat down to have refreshments at a branch, except once when the company paid for it during a work supervision, in Queen's Park.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 16, 2024 16:47:08 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 16, 2024 16:51:14 GMT
But in quite a balanced fashion. |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Aug 16, 2024 17:28:13 GMT
I don’t think I’ve heard of Gail’s bakery before, but now I want to go to it just to annoy the people who don’t understand how market forces work. If you visit them all, your tour will include lots of Lib Dem constituencies. www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/11/lib-dems-upmarket-bakery-gails-operation-cinnamon-bun/(paywalled but you get the drift) On the topic of "gentrification", I don't see the problem with areas of cities becoming less poor. Better than the alternative of them becoming more poor? |
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Post by batman on Aug 16, 2024 17:30:48 GMT
Yep. There are 2 Gail's within a mile of my house. And I am in a safe Lib Dem constituency.
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Post by ccoleman on Aug 16, 2024 17:34:24 GMT
I don’t think I’ve heard of Gail’s bakery before, but now I want to go to it just to annoy the people who don’t understand how market forces work. If you visit them all, your tour will include lots of Lib Dem constituencies. www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/11/lib-dems-upmarket-bakery-gails-operation-cinnamon-bun/(paywalled but you get the drift) On the topic of "gentrification", I don't see the problem with areas of cities becoming less poor. Better than the alternative of them becoming more poor? As a general rule I don't either, but I do sympathise with the argument that gentrification ultimately doesn't solve the issue of poverty, it just moves it somewhere else. I don't think there's a silver bullet for that kind of problem though. |
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Post by sanders on Aug 16, 2024 18:26:18 GMT
Gail's gives white yummy mummy vibes. Look where they have their outlets. Muswell Hill, Highgate, Crouch End, Hampstead... They have one in Kentish Town! That shows you where its going. Jolene is better in Islington / Hackney. A much more alternative vibe there. They handwrite their stuff too y'know. They have low-level lighting as well. Gail's is crap, to be honest. Their 'too good to go' bags. It was a waste of money. Gail's can do one, I say. They started in Hampstead - enough said.
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Post by batman on Aug 16, 2024 18:34:49 GMT
Well their bread, irrespective of their clientele or vibes, is actually pretty good. Those who don't want to set foot in one of their bakeries can buy it at Waitrose.
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Post by sanders on Aug 16, 2024 18:38:12 GMT
Well their bread, irrespective of their clientele or vibes, is actually pretty good. Those who don't want to set foot in one of their bakeries can buy it at Waitrose. It is good you're right there. We just thought it'd be cheaper. I mean, end of the day. They do too good to go. But it's still quite pricey though. Still, I live off reduced Aldi! We shopped at Waitrose on benefits. Make it make sense batman, lol. |
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Post by aargauer on Aug 16, 2024 19:16:38 GMT
Yep. There are 2 Gail's within a mile of my house. And I am in a safe Lib Dem constituency. Richmond is probably the most Gail's constituency in the country. |
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Post by aargauer on Aug 16, 2024 19:18:43 GMT
Gail's gives white yummy mummy vibes. Look where they have their outlets. Muswell Hill, Highgate, Crouch End, Hampstead... They have one in Kentish Town! That shows you where it's going. Jolene is better in Islington / Hackney. A much more alternative vibe there. They handwrite their stuff too y'know. They have low-level lighting as well. Gail's is crap, to be honest. Their 'too good to go' bags. It was a waste of money. Gail's can do one, I say. They started in Hampstead - enough said. Gails bread isn't crap even if it's ... trying a bit hard. I do confess to going in once, (Wimbledon I think), but fairly often got their bread on discount from Waitrose. |
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Post by sanders on Aug 16, 2024 19:41:26 GMT
Yep. There are 2 Gail's within a mile of my house. And I am in a safe Lib Dem constituency. Richmond is probably the most Gail's constituency in the country. Hampstead & Highgate where it started. |
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Post by kevinlarkin on Aug 16, 2024 19:56:51 GMT
Yep. There are 2 Gail's within a mile of my house. And I am in a safe Lib Dem constituency. Richmond is probably the most Gail's constituency in the country. Best baker in Richmond Park constituency is the Swiss Bread bakery and café in Ham, although they are open only five days a week and shut for the whole of August. Paul is a better choice than Gail's for a chain bakery. |
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Post by sanders on Aug 16, 2024 19:57:52 GMT
Jolene scorches both but it's small.
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