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Post by batman on May 25, 2024 13:06:19 GMT
You also miss the obvious fact that, as the Vice-Chair of Red Labour which was the most prominent pro-Corbyn online group, the very last thing I would ever have wanted to do was undermine the left. My left credentials were beyond reproach and Jeremy Corbyn told me he was disappointed I had not been selected for Richmond Park. None of this however prevented me from experiencing antisemitism, and now I’m experiencing it again from you (not you of course cogload)
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Post by mboy on May 25, 2024 13:10:23 GMT
Anyone claiming racism in Labour meetings needs to be more straightforward and state exactly what happened. Where. And when. There was lots of exagerration, lies, bullshit and horseshit used to undermine and destroy the left. no, that’s a racist comment. You’re saying you disbelieve Jews who have suffered racism because you think we are liars. That’s exactly what happened to me in a CLP meeting. You can do one Yeh political victim-blaming is a real low-blow, isn't it? Rosie Duffield:  |
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Post by cogload on May 25, 2024 13:18:10 GMT
You also miss the obvious fact that, as the Vice-Chair of Red Labour which was the most prominent pro-Corbyn online group, the very last thing I would ever have wanted to do was undermine the left. My left credentials were beyond reproach and Jeremy Corbyn told me he was disappointed I had not been selected for Richmond Park. None of this however prevented me from experiencing antisemitism, and now I’m experiencing it again from you (not you of course cogload) Use the block button. Life is too short to worry about anonymous trolls on the interweb. |
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Post by johnloony on May 25, 2024 13:18:54 GMT
No sympathy here for Diane, treated abominably (and the MP receiving by far the most racist material by post and online) and now a story laughing at a Caribbean country. Mmmm What was the country and when? I am at a loss to understand how somebody laughing at the political situation in Barbados can be interpreted as a lack of sympathy for Diane (Abbott, I presume you mean) given that she wasn't mentioned. |
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on May 25, 2024 13:31:15 GMT
VoteBarbados Forums can't be as vibrant as VoteUK The Prediction competition must lack excitement for one thing. Not true, their competitions include A: Predicting seats in vote majority order. B: Predicting seats in % majority order. C: Bribes to the organiser to ensure everyone with good bribery skills is declared a winner. |
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Post by johnloony on May 25, 2024 13:48:24 GMT
When Labour won a landslide victory in 1945 they nevertheless managed to lose two seats to other parties (Stepney Mile End to the CPGB, and Carmarthen to the Liberal Party). The 2024 equivalent would be to lose Islington North to Independent and Bristol Central to Green.
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Post by Sibboleth on May 25, 2024 14:00:23 GMT
When Labour won a landslide victory in 1945 they nevertheless managed to lose two seats to other parties (Stepney Mile End to the CPGB, and Carmarthen to the Liberal Party). The 2024 equivalent would be to lose Islington North to Independent and Bristol Central to Green. You forget the obvious comparison to Islington North: D.N. Prick at Hammersmith North. |
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Post by johnloony on May 25, 2024 14:24:42 GMT
When Labour won a landslide victory in 1945 they nevertheless managed to lose two seats to other parties (Stepney Mile End to the CPGB, and Carmarthen to the Liberal Party). The 2024 equivalent would be to lose Islington North to Independent and Bristol Central to Green. You forget the obvious comparison to Islington North: D.N. Prick at Hammersmith North. Oh yes. I suppose it's a better example because Corbyn (as an Independent) already "holds" Islington North, so won't need to "gain" it "from" Labour in the same was as Mile End. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 25, 2024 14:25:52 GMT
When Labour won a landslide victory in 1945 they nevertheless managed to lose two seats to other parties (Stepney Mile End to the CPGB, and Carmarthen to the Liberal Party). The 2024 equivalent would be to lose Islington North to Independent and Bristol Central to Green. You forget the obvious comparison to Islington North: D.N. Prick at Hammersmith North. I see you're using his nickname. |
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Post by Sg1 on May 25, 2024 15:48:42 GMT
When Labour won a landslide victory in 1945 they nevertheless managed to lose two seats to other parties (Stepney Mile End to the CPGB, and Carmarthen to the Liberal Party). The 2024 equivalent would be to lose Islington North to Independent and Bristol Central to Green. You forget the obvious comparison to Islington North: D.N. Prick at Hammersmith North. Sounds like a fictional MP from an episode of Bottom. |
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Post by batman on May 25, 2024 16:20:17 GMT
no, that’s a racist comment. You’re saying you disbelieve Jews who have suffered racism because you think we are liars. That’s exactly what happened to me in a CLP meeting. You can do one Yeh political victim-blaming is a real low-blow, isn't it? Rosie Duffield: I do not entirely agree with Rosie on gender identity. (Although I am not in the “trans women are women full stop” camp either and never have been.) I am not discriminating against her because of her sex, her sexuality, her disability or her ethnicity, I merely have a political difference with her. So because I have a political difference with her that makes it OK if I encounter antisemitism? If not what on earth is your point? |
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Post by hullenedge on May 25, 2024 16:24:14 GMT
The comments are critical but further analysis/polling(?) is promised:-
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Post by johnloony on May 25, 2024 16:30:52 GMT
The comments are critical but further analysis/polling(?) is promised:- What the frulg does "Expert data analysis" mean? Did they do a proper opinion poll, or did they just pull some numbers out of a hippopotamus's bottom? |
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Post by batman on May 25, 2024 16:59:51 GMT
The comments are critical but further analysis/polling(?) is promised:- What the frulg does "Expert data analysis" mean? Did they do a proper opinion poll, or did they just pull some numbers out of a hippopotamus's bottom? the nearest hippopotamus' bottoms will be in the Cities of London & Westminster constituency after the boundary changes. Making it even less accurate as a prediction in Islington North |
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Post by YL on May 25, 2024 17:12:15 GMT
The comments are critical but further analysis/polling(?) is promised:- What the frulg does "Expert data analysis" mean? Did they do a proper opinion poll, or did they just pull some numbers out of a hippopotamus's bottom? The numbers are from this Twitter account, which appears to be by someone who works for Electoral Calculus, but it's not implied that they're an EC projection. |
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Post by hullenedge on May 25, 2024 17:14:07 GMT
The comments are critical but further analysis/polling(?) is promised:- What the frulg does "Expert data analysis" mean? Did they do a proper opinion poll, or did they just pull some numbers out of a hippopotamus's bottom? Back of an envelope ringed with a coffee cup stain? |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2024 17:16:55 GMT
The comments are critical but further analysis/polling(?) is promised:- They're trying to project London-wide approval ratings for JC onto Islington North. In other words, trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. SFL often does good work but this isn't good work. P.S. Electoral Calculus is just an electoral calculation, nothing more, nothing less. C.f. UK Polling Report these days. |
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Post by mboy on May 25, 2024 17:26:23 GMT
The comments are critical but further analysis/polling(?) is promised:- IMO Labour should be quite happy with that poll and start putting it on leaflets. That's game-on with plenty of Tories and Lib Dems to squeeze with a "Stop Iran winning Islington North" campaign. |
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Post by YL on May 25, 2024 17:33:42 GMT
The comments are critical but further analysis/polling(?) is promised:- IMO Labour should be quite happy with that poll and start putting it on leaflets. That's game-on with plenty of Tories and Lib Dems to squeeze with a "Stop Iran winning Islington North" campaign. It's not a poll. |
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Post by mboy on May 25, 2024 17:38:04 GMT
Who cares? Put it on leaflets. When people stay arguing about it they're doing Labour publicity for them.
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