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Post by sanders on Sept 9, 2024 15:06:57 GMT
I miss one word seats honestly. Ayr was another old historic name. Suffolk Coastal is just too generic. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Sept 9, 2024 15:53:27 GMT
A pedant would point out that Eye is now in the Waveney Valley seat.
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Post by john07 on Sept 9, 2024 16:46:11 GMT
A pedant would point out that Eye is now in the Waveney Valley seat. The original post could be described as a bit of a John Selwyn. |
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Post by birkinabe on Sept 9, 2024 17:17:06 GMT
Time to wake up and smell the Coffey. They're doing this at the start of the Parliament for a reason. Most over-65s didn't vote Labour here. Vote splitting gifted them the seat. The same is true in much of Norfolk too. This seat isn't exactly wealthy, frankly. I guess there's hidden poverty too. I had a friend from Beccles once. Suffolk isn't exactly that wealthy although South Suffolk certainly appears that way (Lavenham etc). I guess when it was the wool trade dominating everything, Suffolk was rich I mean Suffolk Coastal isn't a constituency Labour needs to win by any stretch of the imagination and is very likely to flip back next time even if they are seen to have governed adequately.
Aside from Truss's former seat, this and SE Cornwall were definitely the most surprising Labour gains of the night.
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Post by sanders on Sept 9, 2024 17:21:02 GMT
I mean Suffolk Coastal isn't a constituency Labour needs to win by any stretch of the imagination and is very likely to flip back next time even if they are seen to have governed adequately.
Aside from Truss's former seat, this and SE Cornwall were definitely the most surprising Labour gains of the night.
Tories have been wiped out in Cornwall before, all that's changed is who did the wiping out! Truss's seat was just personal unpopularity, like Palin losing in Alaska. |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 10, 2024 12:19:35 GMT
If she’s tweeting things like that maybe eyeing up a return run in five years? The record of defeated MPs in a change of government election attempting a return for their old seats subsequently is not exactly a spotless one. Both in 2001 and 2015 quite a few were rejected (in some cases with significant swings against) though there were also successes. John Grogan's "surprising" failure in Keighley this time might a similar (even if not identical) example. Maybe it could even have been won by Labour with a new candidate? |
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Post by elinorhelyn on Sept 10, 2024 14:51:31 GMT
For the record the Labour MP abstained on the WFA motion.
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Post by sanders on Sept 10, 2024 15:13:55 GMT
Labour coasted to victory here, and will coast to defeat in all likelihood.
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Post by samdwebber on Sept 10, 2024 15:33:46 GMT
I miss one word seats honestly. Ayr was another old historic name. Suffolk Coastal is just too generic. The District Council has been re-branded as East Suffolk I believe. |
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Post by sanders on Sept 10, 2024 15:34:45 GMT
I miss one word seats honestly. Ayr was another old historic name. Suffolk Coastal is just too generic. The District Council has been re-branded as East Suffolk I believe. That's also pretty mediocre though at least you can picture that area along with the coastal seat. We have a lot of meh seat names, Liverpool Riverside is another. |
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Post by owainsutton on Sept 10, 2024 16:59:05 GMT
I miss one word seats honestly. Ayr was another old historic name. Suffolk Coastal is just too generic. The District Council has been re-branded as East Suffolk I believe. East Suffolk Council is the result of the merging of Waveney DC and Suffolk Coastal DC. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Sept 11, 2024 9:18:28 GMT
The reason the Suffolk Coastal constituency (and previous district) has a bad name is because it's not a particularly coherent seat - the component parts don't have very much in common with each other aside from being on or near the seat - so there isn't an appropriate alternative name that everybody would hear and recognise that meant them.
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Post by owainsutton on Sept 11, 2024 16:33:28 GMT
The reason the Suffolk Coastal constituency (and previous district) has a bad name is because it's not a particularly coherent seat - the component parts don't have very much in common with each other aside from being on or near the seat - so there isn't an appropriate alternative name that everybody would hear and recognise that meant them. "A12 North" |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 11, 2024 19:23:41 GMT
The District Council has been re-branded as East Suffolk I believe. That's also pretty mediocre though at least you can picture that area along with the coastal seat. We have a lot of meh seat names, Liverpool Riverside is another. can confirm, but surely a bad Liverpudlian constituency name is meff not meh. |
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Post by sanders on Sept 12, 2024 5:36:54 GMT
The reason the Suffolk Coastal constituency (and previous district) has a bad name is because it's not a particularly coherent seat - the component parts don't have very much in common with each other aside from being on or near the seat - so there isn't an appropriate alternative name that everybody would hear and recognise that meant them. Name it after the prettiest part. Call it Dunwich - wonderful coastal heathlands. |
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Post by ilerda on Sept 12, 2024 6:48:50 GMT
The reason the Suffolk Coastal constituency (and previous district) has a bad name is because it's not a particularly coherent seat - the component parts don't have very much in common with each other aside from being on or near the seat - so there isn't an appropriate alternative name that everybody would hear and recognise that meant them. Name it after the prettiest part. Call it Dunwich - wonderful coastal heathlands. Can you imagine the inter-village wars the BCE would start if it had to choose the prettiest place as the name for each constituency. |
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Post by sanders on Sept 12, 2024 6:53:19 GMT
Name it after the prettiest part. Call it Dunwich - wonderful coastal heathlands. Can you imagine the inter-village wars the BCE would start if it had to choose the prettiest place as the name for each constituency. Yes, especially in Buckinghamshire / Oxfordshire. |
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Post by Strontium Dog on Sept 12, 2024 8:53:56 GMT
That's also pretty mediocre though at least you can picture that area along with the coastal seat. We have a lot of meh seat names, Liverpool Riverside is another. can confirm, but surely a bad Liverpudlian constituency name is meff not meh. I don't know that we would necessarily refer to a meffy place name. Jarg is probably more likely. Meh is an Americanism which I suppose everyone is using these days. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Sept 12, 2024 9:07:45 GMT
If you were going to pick a place just because you thought it sounded pretty rather than because it was metonymous of the whole, Sutton Hoo would probably be the least bad option.
Or if you just wanted to be ridiculous, name if after the family who erected the mound and call it Wuffing.
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Post by aargauer on Sept 12, 2024 10:22:39 GMT
If you were going to pick a place just because you thought it sounded pretty rather than because it was metonymous of the whole, Sutton Hoo would probably be the least bad option. Or if you just wanted to be ridiculous, name if after the family who erected the mound and call it Wuffing. Saxon nerd ! |
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