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Clacton
Jul 22, 2024 22:41:05 GMT
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Post by observer on Jul 22, 2024 22:41:05 GMT
The right side of democracy? Are we talking about the same Remainers here? 😂😂 Didn't the Russians tell you to vote Leave? I got a call from Putin about it and I was like "yeah, no trouble". Funnily enough, my whole family had Putin on the phone. Perhaps the Russians know more about AI than we think
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Post by stb12 on Jul 23, 2024 0:42:45 GMT
Of course now Farage is an MP, he'll have to declare how his junket to Milwaukee was funded (I've seen rumours that GB News paid but now it'll all have to be formally declared.) I wonder how much he's realised that his affairs and backers will now be declared and subject to scrutiny. And no shortage of opponents who will call for investigations if he "forgets" to make timely declarations. Interesting to see how he'll manage that transition. Of course his line will be "the elites are all out to get me" but he'll actually have consequences for not playing by the rules now. He fudged the figures to nobble the Brexit referendum, he'll find a creative way to hide who's really funding his America trips. I think those of us on the right side of democracy should put pressure on the Recall Act being amended to include Farage somehow. He'll trip up. For those neutral or undecided on the merits of the recall process I’m not sure that talking about changing the rules in order to target one MP who has just been elected is really the best look, however prominent that MP is
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Jul 23, 2024 6:14:44 GMT
Of course now Farage is an MP, he'll have to declare how his junket to Milwaukee was funded (I've seen rumours that GB News paid but now it'll all have to be formally declared.) I wonder how much he's realised that his affairs and backers will now be declared and subject to scrutiny. And no shortage of opponents who will call for investigations if he "forgets" to make timely declarations. Interesting to see how he'll manage that transition. Of course his line will be "the elites are all out to get me" but he'll actually have consequences for not playing by the rules now. He fudged the figures to nobble the Brexit referendum, he'll find a creative way to hide who's really funding his America trips. I think those of us on the right side of democracy should put pressure on the Recall Act being amended to include Farage somehow. He'll trip up. Unfortunately your hate is showing and it is driving what you are saying. You want to change the law to get one of your political opponents, how very open minded and liberal of you. You're also throwing around unproven accusations. Nigel Farage is a loud mouth who I don't particularly like, but he works within our Democracy. He may fall over his own feet, but he has views that need taking on board because they resonate with about on 7th of thr population! Thr wrong side of democracy, what a awful meaningless term. It makes me feel that deep down you might not believe in democracy, but an in autocracy. I hope I'm wrong. Please consider how you post carefully, in the above you come across as neither as liberal nor a democrat, rather you come across as a vindictive autocrat, which I very much doubt you are.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 23, 2024 6:21:04 GMT
When someone shows you who they are, believe them
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Jul 23, 2024 6:29:42 GMT
When someone shows you who they are, believe them You're probably correct, my wording was deliberately, to try and get my point across in a nice a manner as possible.
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Post by observer on Jul 23, 2024 7:42:46 GMT
The hatred is still raw for some Remainers and it is warping them. A surprising (not really) number of Liberal Democrats are neither liberal or democratic
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Post by aargauer on Jul 23, 2024 7:56:46 GMT
Of course now Farage is an MP, he'll have to declare how his junket to Milwaukee was funded (I've seen rumours that GB News paid but now it'll all have to be formally declared.) I wonder how much he's realised that his affairs and backers will now be declared and subject to scrutiny. And no shortage of opponents who will call for investigations if he "forgets" to make timely declarations. Interesting to see how he'll manage that transition. Of course his line will be "the elites are all out to get me" but he'll actually have consequences for not playing by the rules now. He fudged the figures to nobble the Brexit referendum, he'll find a creative way to hide who's really funding his America trips. I think those of us on the right side of democracy should put pressure on the Recall Act being amended to include Farage somehow. He'll trip up. I can't decide whether that's sarcastic or not.
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Post by batman on Jul 23, 2024 8:15:07 GMT
I cannot agree that it is appropriate to recall Nigel Farage just because you dislike or disagree with him. If we want him out of Parliament, and he does not make serious breaches of parliamentary rules (a trip to America is not a breach of parliamentary rules, nor should it be), the only way is via the ballot box. I'm not against the recall mechanism, but this would be a highly inappropriate use of it.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jul 23, 2024 9:07:31 GMT
He fudged the figures to nobble the Brexit referendum, he'll find a creative way to hide who's really funding his America trips. I think those of us on the right side of democracy should put pressure on the Recall Act being amended to include Farage somehow. He'll trip up. I can't decide whether that's sarcastic or not. Maybe he believes the 'right side of democracy' is being anti-democratic and destroying democracy? It would certainly fit his worldview.
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Post by r34t on Jul 23, 2024 9:15:07 GMT
So, let's change the rules so we can recall Farage. Then there will be a byelection in Clacton where .....
Oh, hang on, I may not have thought this through .....
Farage would absolutely love that scenario. Martyr AND the centre of attention for a while.
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Post by aargauer on Jul 23, 2024 9:26:31 GMT
I can't decide whether that's sarcastic or not. Maybe he believes the 'right side of democracy' is being anti-democratic and destroying democracy? It would certainly fit his worldview. David. It's 2024, to protect democracy, we simply must support attempts to assassinate our political opponents or at the bare minimum unseat them outside the election process! Electing candidates risks that the people vote for the wrong person, and isn't compatible with democracy.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jul 23, 2024 9:29:37 GMT
I'm not sure how you could actually alter the recall act specifically to encompass Farage. He's an MP, if he breaks the rules in one of a fairly long list of ways then he's already covered by it.
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Post by batman on Jul 23, 2024 9:37:33 GMT
It's not going to happen. There is no parliamentary majority for extending the act in this way. Even if there are MPs sympathetic to the idea of getting at Farage, they all know that it would potentially be used against them or their allies. Plus Farage would win the by-election anyway. That's before we even get to the bit where we know it would be totally wrong in principle too.
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Post by Crimson King on Jul 23, 2024 11:28:14 GMT
I think we may be treating the suggestion with more credibility than it deserves
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Clacton
Jul 23, 2024 11:32:26 GMT
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Post by observer on Jul 23, 2024 11:32:26 GMT
The fear of Farage seems to be obsessive
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jul 23, 2024 11:44:20 GMT
The fear of Farage seems to be obsessive Some posters on here are inclined to the obsessive.
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Clacton
Jul 23, 2024 12:15:14 GMT
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Post by observer on Jul 23, 2024 12:15:14 GMT
The fear of Farage seems to be obsessive Some posters on here are inclined to the obsessive. Just mention Farage and they get so insecure
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Post by r34t on Jul 23, 2024 13:11:08 GMT
The fear of Farage seems to be obsessive Some posters on here are inclined to the obsessive. I thought it was a prerequisite of membership .....
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 23, 2024 13:12:27 GMT
Some posters on here are inclined to the obsessive. I thought it was a prerequisite of membership ..... naughty r34t
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Post by batman on Jul 23, 2024 14:43:43 GMT
Some posters on here are inclined to the obsessive. Just mention Farage and they get so insecure only every now & then
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