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Post by stb12 on Mar 13, 2024 20:47:02 GMT
Boston and Skegness
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on May 23, 2024 10:52:59 GMT
Tice has announced he's standing here rather than in Hartlepool, as was previously planned.
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Post by markgoodair on May 23, 2024 10:54:59 GMT
Tice has announced he's standing here rather than in Hartlepool, as was previously planned. Still won't win.
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Post by carlton43 on May 23, 2024 11:36:42 GMT
Tice has announced he's standing here rather than in Hartlepool, as was previously planned. We must assume it had been left available for Farage but is prefered by Tice as previously very UKIP-oriented. The wrong-footing of Reform may prove to have been the most important element of the Sunak decision? The time for candidate selection and vetting and for funds to be raised and agents and campaigners to be trained has now been severely curtailed. It also stops any planned drip-feed of desertions by councillors and MPs from Conservative to Reform over the long summer silly season break.
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Post by Ron Swanson on May 23, 2024 11:52:12 GMT
Nobody with any serious electoral ambition (outside of parts of Derby, it seems) is going to waste their time joining Reform.
Paul Nuttall got 8% there as UKIP in 2017, something similar would represent a reasonable result for Ticey.
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Post by carlton43 on May 23, 2024 12:16:09 GMT
Nobody with any serious electoral ambition (outside of parts of Derby, it seems) is going to waste their time joining Reform. Paul Nuttall got 8% there as UKIP in 2017, something similar would represent a reasonable result for Ticey. But that was Nuttall, a copper-bottomed, terminally thick village idiot and well known to be so.
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Post by Ron Swanson on May 23, 2024 12:37:33 GMT
Nobody with any serious electoral ambition (outside of parts of Derby, it seems) is going to waste their time joining Reform. Paul Nuttall got 8% there as UKIP in 2017, something similar would represent a reasonable result for Ticey. But that was Nuttall, a copper-bottomed, terminally thick village idiot and well known to be so. Tice isn't much cleverer, politically. At least UKIP had policies, people could vote for or against them as they wished. Unless you watch GBeebies, the chances are you wouldn't have the foggiest idea about Reform and what they stand for.
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Post by right on May 23, 2024 12:44:22 GMT
But that was Nuttall, a copper-bottomed, terminally thick village idiot and well known to be so. Tice isn't much cleverer, politically. At least UKIP had policies, people could vote for or against them as they wished. Unless you watch GBeebies, the chances are you wouldn't have the foggiest idea about Reform and what they stand for. Definitely come across Reform supporters on the doorstep and a more general "Farage Party" Granted they don't know the policies they stand for, but they are very clear on the theme
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Post by carlton43 on May 23, 2024 13:51:14 GMT
But that was Nuttall, a copper-bottomed, terminally thick village idiot and well known to be so. Tice isn't much cleverer, politically. At least UKIP had policies, people could vote for or against them as they wished. Unless you watch GBeebies, the chances are you wouldn't have the foggiest idea about Reform and what they stand for. Well now Ron. We will accept your analysis of GBeebies as none of us have heard of them. Perhaps you would kindly give us the five core, central policies for each of the Labour, Conservative and LD parties, so that we may compare and contrast with the Reform party. And no recourse to your friends or the internet. Get those five policies out of your own embedded stock of known policies in your own head please.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on May 23, 2024 16:13:46 GMT
Reform got 18.2% in the Boston district in the PCC contest and 17.5% in the East Lindsey district. Even if we assume that Skegness was stronger for Reform than the rest of East Lindsey, they still couldn't break 20% in a low turnout contest that should have played to their strength. I suspect in the general election they'll be nearer to 10% than 20%.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2024 16:45:35 GMT
It'll be interesting to see if Richard Tice exceeds Paul Nuttall's 2017 vote share of 7.7% here.
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Post by stb12 on May 23, 2024 17:23:13 GMT
The UKIP vote totally bombed everywhere in that election with the exception of Thurrock
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Post by greenhert on May 23, 2024 18:05:16 GMT
Reform got 18.2% in the Boston district in the PCC contest and 17.5% in the East Lindsey district. Even if we assume that Skegness was stronger for Reform than the rest of East Lindsey, they still couldn't break 20% in a low turnout contest that should have played to their strength. I suspect in the general election they'll be nearer to 10% than 20%. Keep in mind that due to turnouts in PCC elections being very low, they are not a useful guide to how a general election will go in a particular constituency, especially since fewer candidates stand in PCC elections.
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Post by Sg1 on May 23, 2024 18:12:11 GMT
Reform got 18.2% in the Boston district in the PCC contest and 17.5% in the East Lindsey district. Even if we assume that Skegness was stronger for Reform than the rest of East Lindsey, they still couldn't break 20% in a low turnout contest that should have played to their strength. I suspect in the general election they'll be nearer to 10% than 20%. Keep in mind that due to turnouts in PCC elections being very low, they are not a useful guide to how a general election will go in a particular constituency, especially since fewer candidates stand in PCC elections. True, but it's a higher sample than an opinion poll. Like any local election, you can't extrapolate too much.
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Post by johnloony on May 23, 2024 18:52:32 GMT
It'll be interesting to see if Richard Tice exceeds Paul Nuttall's 2017 vote share of 7.7% here. If Reform is currently on c.10% in the opinion polls, it is not likely that it will fall as low as 7.7% in Boston & Skegness - even if (as I think likely) Reform falls to 3% or 4% during the campaign.
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Post by greenhert on Jun 8, 2024 10:13:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2024 10:14:46 GMT
It'll be interesting to see if Richard Tice exceeds Paul Nuttall's 2017 vote share of 7.7% here. If Reform is currently on c.10% in the opinion polls, it is not likely that it will fall as low as 7.7% in Boston & Skegness - even if (as I think likely) Reform falls to 3% or 4% during the campaign. Based on Farage's return, I think Tice is the slight favourite here. UKIP only lost by 10% here in 2015.
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Post by right on Jun 25, 2024 12:34:27 GMT
That's nice, it will give Farage someone to argue with in Parliament
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 25, 2024 12:35:46 GMT
That's nice, it will give Farage someone to argue with in Parliament The election for leader of the parliamentary party should be fun.
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Post by right on Jun 25, 2024 12:46:53 GMT
That's nice, it will give Farage someone to argue with in Parliament The election for leader of the parliamentary party should be fun. Or board meeting in Reform speak
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