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Post by Tony Otim on Feb 23, 2024 12:55:41 GMT
That Romney Marsh result is as mad as one would have expected Winner got 24% I think. One of the best results for REform in a local by-election as well, despite the crowded field. |
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Post by carolus on Feb 23, 2024 12:59:06 GMT
One of the best results for REform in a local by-election as well, despite the crowded field. Yes, I was thinking that. I wonder if they'd have done if there hadn't been all the Independents (though perhaps then it would be a different ward...) |
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Post by bungle on Feb 23, 2024 13:13:24 GMT
Anyone know of any previous Labour wins in Bakewell? I looked in Elections Centre and didn’t find any; they didn’t contest it in 1995. I am originally from the Peak District, and I can never remember Labour winning in Bakewell at least in the past 50 odd years. Chapel-en-le-Frith, Whaley Bridge, Wirksworth, even villages like Hathersage & Eyam and Youlgreave, yes. Bakewell (and Ashbourne) no. I concur. The district ward has never shown any previous Labour inclination until recently. Labour’s one attempt at fielding a full slate back in 1987 was notably woeful. There is a deeper rooted change in voting behaviour going on (as elsewhere in other parts of Derbyshire Dales).The 2021 result in the County Council division was equally impressive for Labour, given the national trend. Labour could well win it next year. Squadron Leader Norman Wilson will turn in his grave at such a prospect. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Feb 23, 2024 14:21:47 GMT
Yes I think "pretty good" is a bit kind. They have lost 2 seats but "not as bad as it might have been" would certainly be fair. Their performance in Jedburgh, though not very surprisingly, was very strong. They held two of their seats on low shares due to the opposition being divided (comically so in Kent) so got lucky to a degree. then again they would have probably held Romney under STV, AV, Condorcet as well, so it's more a case of no one else gettinv lucky |
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Post by andrewteale on Feb 23, 2024 14:30:02 GMT
Anyone know of any previous Labour wins in Bakewell? I looked in Elections Centre and didn’t find any; they didn’t contest it in 1995. I am originally from the Peak District, and I can never remember Labour winning in Bakewell at least in the past 50 odd years. Chapel-en-le-Frith, Whaley Bridge, Wirksworth, even villages like Hathersage & Eyam and Youlgreave, yes. Bakewell (and Ashbourne) no. Labour came very close to winning the Bakewell county division in 2021. That division has Hathersage and Eyam in it. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 23, 2024 14:32:25 GMT
One of the best results for REform in a local by-election as well, despite the crowded field. This is afterall a ward where UKIP gained a seat in 2019.. |
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Post by batman on Feb 23, 2024 15:56:44 GMT
I’m in a cafe in East Sheen, and should have had a Bakewell tart to celebrate, but I am off cakes etc. at present.
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on Feb 23, 2024 17:17:41 GMT
Anyone know of any previous Labour wins in Bakewell? I looked in Elections Centre and didn’t find any; they didn’t contest it in 1995. I am originally from the Peak District, and I can never remember Labour winning in Bakewell at least in the past 50 odd years. Chapel-en-le-Frith, Whaley Bridge, Wirksworth, even villages like Hathersage & Eyam and Youlgreave, yes. Bakewell (and Ashbourne) no. Where next? Tideswell? |
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Post by ricmk on Feb 23, 2024 17:37:16 GMT
I’d say the Tory performance in MK was above par, remember they came third defending their own seat at our last by-election.
They seem pretty chipper. Both Con and Lab fought it hard.
The 2021 election was a big deal - this was the only marginal the Tories didn’t win, and it was a high profile contest. V strong Labour incumbent and a very divisive Con candidate so the candidate selection may have made the difference.
Loughton and Shenley shows the change in MK though. The Tories in 2021 could have taken all three Councillors; they now have none.
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Post by lackeroftalent on Feb 23, 2024 17:45:04 GMT
I am originally from the Peak District, and I can never remember Labour winning in Bakewell at least in the past 50 odd years. Chapel-en-le-Frith, Whaley Bridge, Wirksworth, even villages like Hathersage & Eyam and Youlgreave, yes. Bakewell (and Ashbourne) no. Where next? Tideswell? No. The good people of Tideswell are very happy with their Green councillor re-electing them last year with two-thirds of the vote. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Feb 23, 2024 18:02:36 GMT
One of the best results for REform in a local by-election as well, despite the crowded field. This is afterall a ward where UKIP gained a seat in 2019.. Oh, I'm sure it's a ward with lots of potential for them - but until recently (with a few exceptions) they weren't managing to get a decent vote even in those types of wards... |
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Post by greyfriar on Feb 23, 2024 18:55:04 GMT
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Post by carolus on Feb 23, 2024 19:12:32 GMT
The Lib Dems have held all three seats in Edinburgh, Corstorphine/Murrayfield since the December 2022 byelection. I'd be surprised if there weren't other examples. |
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Post by Clark on Feb 23, 2024 20:44:25 GMT
Jedburgh doesn't look like a Tory town at first glance. Clearly the rural / village territory outwith would be but I'm surprised at a Tory vote share of 58% in this ward.
Obviously Ballot Box Scotland will publish the polling district data early next week which will be interesting to see the vote share distribution.
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Post by Tony Otim on Feb 23, 2024 20:48:03 GMT
The Lib Dems have held all three seats in Edinburgh, Corstorphine/Murrayfield since the December 2022 byelection. I'd be surprised if there weren't other examples. Labour held all seats in 2 North Lanarkshire wards following by-elections in the 2017-22 terms - all 3 in Thorniewood and all 4 in Fortissat (the latter may be the only example of a party holding all seats in a 4 seat ward) |
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Post by bluelabour on Feb 23, 2024 22:27:36 GMT
Jedburgh doesn't look like a Tory town at first glance. Really? It did when I visited it. |
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 23, 2024 22:38:50 GMT
Jedburgh doesn't look like a Tory town at first glance. Really? It did when I visited it. Borders poll needed i think.  |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 23, 2024 23:14:42 GMT
I’m in a cafe in East Sheen, and should have had a Bakewell tart to celebrate, but I am off cakes etc. at present. That first phrase is pure Chesterton! It demands the rejoinder ..... "Darling! Where should I be?" |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Feb 24, 2024 0:57:13 GMT
I’m in a cafe in East Sheen, and should have had a Bakewell tart to celebrate, but I am off cakes etc. at present. That first phrase is pure Chesterton! It demands the rejoinder ..... "Darling! Where should I be?" I read it in Tony Hancock's voice. |
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Post by Clark on Feb 24, 2024 8:05:38 GMT
Really? It did when I visited it. Borders poll needed i think. Actually, having looked at more of it on streetview, you're kind of right - the areas I saw in the far south east and north east of the town are the council/ex council estate areas. City centre and most other areas look much better. |
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