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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 20:46:34 GMT
He claims that the absence of whipping was a key consideration. Which would explain a move to Independent, but UKIP? AIUI UKIP don't whip their councillors? I wonder if the recent vote on car park charges was a factor in this, where the LibDems opposed the reduction of charges, but in a named vote called by the Tories, some abstained rather than vote against. I'm going to have to go back to the very poor video of the vote being taken to find out who was on which side now! And trevor's been on the council long enough to realise what being a backbench Tory means in Worthing - i.e. sit in meetings and do what you're told (normally you get told about five minutes before the decision what your view is!) EDIT: Been through the video now, and if you exclude the LibDem mayor who abstained, there is a really clear dividing line between those who abstained and those who voted against. Trevor voted for the proposal, but all the abstainers were also friends of Robin and Hazel.
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Post by dazza on Dec 19, 2013 16:58:33 GMT
"Surgery times: Does not hold a surgery, however you can contact this councillor directly on the phone number and email address shown above." A councillor who does not hold a surgery .Pathetic
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 19, 2013 16:59:33 GMT
The majority of Westminster Conservative councillors don't hold surgeries.
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Post by Richard Allen on Dec 19, 2013 17:04:07 GMT
"Surgery times: Does not hold a surgery, however you can contact this councillor directly on the phone number and email address shown above." A councillor who does not hold a surgery .Pathetic There are some councillors who don't hold surgeries but will do home visits if asked.
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Post by Merseymike on Dec 19, 2013 17:20:22 GMT
"Surgery times: Does not hold a surgery, however you can contact this councillor directly on the phone number and email address shown above." A councillor who does not hold a surgery .Pathetic There are some councillors who don't hold surgeries but will do home visits if asked. It also depends on the ward. I was talking to a friend of mine who has a very safe seat - inner city but nearly all flats and single people and few callers to the surgery - shes looking towards holding Skype surgeries instead
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Post by iainbhx on Dec 19, 2013 18:18:15 GMT
"Surgery times: Does not hold a surgery, however you can contact this councillor directly on the phone number and email address shown above." A councillor who does not hold a surgery .Pathetic There are some councillors who don't hold surgeries but will do home visits if asked. There are some of us who do home visits and a weekly surgery.
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Post by iainbhx on Dec 19, 2013 18:19:18 GMT
There are some councillors who don't hold surgeries but will do home visits if asked. It also depends on the ward. I was talking to a friend of mine who has a very safe seat - inner city but nearly all flats and single people and few callers to the surgery - shes looking towards holding Skype surgeries instead That's a very "new politics" solution. My surgery demographics generally wouldn't know what Skype is.
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Post by iainbhx on Dec 19, 2013 18:21:47 GMT
"Surgery times: Does not hold a surgery, however you can contact this councillor directly on the phone number and email address shown above." A councillor who does not hold a surgery .Pathetic To be fair, it depends on your demographics. I know of a ward which religiously held well-advertised weekly surgeries. No one came to them, they might see one or two people a month. Eventually, they stopped doing them. On average I see just over 4 groups of people a week at mine.
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Post by dazza on Dec 19, 2013 18:23:11 GMT
Of course people can phone up, skype etc, but as an East London Councillor I found that people like to go to see their Cllr at an appointed place at an appointed time ie a surgery.Home visits are OK too, but people need to be mindful of safety issues.Not doing any surgeries is a cop-out.
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Post by Richard Allen on Dec 19, 2013 18:27:32 GMT
There are some councillors who don't hold surgeries but will do home visits if asked. There are some of us who do home visits and a weekly surgery. Since you represent a fair few more people than the average councillor I seriously doubt that you could do a good job without holding surgeries.
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Post by Merseymike on Dec 19, 2013 19:05:45 GMT
Of course people can phone up, skype etc, but as an East London Councillor I found that people like to go to see their Cllr at an appointed place at an appointed time ie a surgery.Home visits are OK too, but people need to be mindful of safety issues.Not doing any surgeries is a cop-out. But if they simply dont work in that no one attends then its it's worth doing something else.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 19, 2013 20:00:31 GMT
"Surgery times: Does not hold a surgery, however you can contact this councillor directly on the phone number and email address shown above." A councillor who does not hold a surgery .Pathetic I think I held 3 'Surgeries' in 26 years. Attendance (from memory): 0, 0, 2.
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Post by dazza on Dec 19, 2013 20:04:55 GMT
Rural Wards probably doesn't work, urban ones does mainly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 20:30:03 GMT
Trevor actually leads a community centre in the heart of his ward, so essentially his surgery is pretty much all evening, every evening But for your delectation, the story as updated shows that he arrived at UKIP by a circuituous, if whistlestop, route!
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 19, 2013 20:42:43 GMT
Trevor actually leads a community centre in the heart of his ward, so essentially his surgery is pretty much all evening, every evening But for your delectation, the story as updated shows that he arrived at UKIP by a circuituous, if whistlestop, route! Thanks James. I am sure that Trevor would have found that three hours was long enough to twig he was in severe danger of going back to 'LibDem Mark 2-The Cameron Debacle', before beating a hasty retreat.
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Post by Devonian on Dec 24, 2013 0:04:42 GMT
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Post by dazza on Dec 24, 2013 16:55:38 GMT
I know and like Dee as a former Council colleague, but it must be obvious to admit that deselection is the main motive for defection.
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Post by tonygreaves on Dec 24, 2013 17:53:24 GMT
A long time ago (1970s) we used to hold weekly surgeries and they were useful and well attended. Every so often we revived them with limited success.
Have not done surgeries for a long time.
Tony Greaves
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 24, 2013 19:43:31 GMT
When I was a councillor (inner city london) I did surgeries twice a month , my colleagues usually doing the same. The attendance was usually underwhelming, but latterly when I did them in a tenants room on a council estate it gave the opportunity for me to catch up with the tenants leader and members of the committee. When I started they were held in a room at the top of a creaking staircase in a victorian school. It was like a Ghost story at Christmas, I tell you.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Dec 25, 2013 6:04:35 GMT
When a councillor in Sheffield with a 14,000 electorate we held four surgeries each month, in four different locations across the ward. For most of my time there were two of us, and we'd tend to do two together and two on our own. We tended to get a lot of business, sometimes wishing there was a gap so we could catch up on organisation stuff.
Before the 2004 boundary changes our ward was 10 miles long with one of "my" community centres a 40+plus minute bus journey away (return journey 90 minutes due to the direct connection stopping at tea time).
After the boundary changes I did pick up from former constituents that they were wondering where their councillors had disappeared to as they didn't hold surgeries, and in the current ward since I and D got replaced by t'other lot, people here have mentioned they never seem to see them either.
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