Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Apr 23, 2024 16:34:04 GMT
My Grandad (born in 1921) liked to call Blackpool 'Gomorrah'. It has never exactly been known as an especially salubrious place, even in its long distant heyday.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Apr 23, 2024 16:38:40 GMT
My Grandad (born in 1921) liked to call Blackpool 'Gomorrah'. It has never exactly been known as an especially salubrious place, even in its long distant heyday. He was being diplomatic. Like most places, it is good in parts. A lot of money has been spent there over the years, but whether it has been spent wisely is a bone of contention. |
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Post by jamie on Apr 23, 2024 16:51:26 GMT
It may be unfair (though its not really) but anything the former RCP claque come out with can be automatically disregarded, including the weather and time of day. Kenan Malik? |
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Post by matureleft on Apr 23, 2024 16:56:34 GMT
My Grandad (born in 1921) liked to call Blackpool 'Gomorrah'. It has never exactly been known as an especially salubrious place, even in its long distant heyday. Brighton used to have a fairly rough reputation. Brighton Rock wasn't set there accidentally and I recall Bryan Magee in his lovely memoir of his Hoxton childhood talking about the links between East End criminals and Brighton, particularly around the races. Added to that it was the favoured destination for set-up divorce evidence before the law changed to remove the need for a man wishing to take the blame in proceedings to be 'caught' in a room with a lady not his wife. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Apr 23, 2024 17:38:11 GMT
That article is a nicely written piece of shock value leering. It's not a very realistic reflection on the consistency as a whole.
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Post by rcronald on Apr 23, 2024 17:45:09 GMT
My Grandad (born in 1921) liked to call Blackpool 'Gomorrah'. It has never exactly been known as an especially salubrious place, even in its long distant heyday. and Brighton is Sodom 😉 (Obviously joking and not trying to be homophobic) |
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Post by johnloony on Apr 23, 2024 18:35:46 GMT
I’ve only ever been to Blackpool once. I didn’t notice how grim it was because I was too busy being at the NUS annual conference.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Apr 23, 2024 21:06:33 GMT
My Grandad (born in 1921) liked to call Blackpool 'Gomorrah'. It has never exactly been known as an especially salubrious place, even in its long distant heyday. I like to imagine that this was intended as a swipe against Lytham St Annes. |
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Post by Crimson King on Apr 23, 2024 22:25:29 GMT
I’ve only ever been to Blackpool once. I didn’t notice how grim it was because I was too busy being at the NUS annual conference. what year was that? I have been a few times for NUS in the distant past coincidentally a couple of my chums posted on fb today abiutbthe lovely trip,they weere having to ‘pool |
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Post by bsjmcr on Apr 23, 2024 23:02:37 GMT
I’ve only ever been to Blackpool once. I didn’t notice how grim it was because I was too busy being at the NUS annual conference. If Labour were serious about winning back (I hate to use the terms but you know what I mean) the ‘red wall’, or ‘levelling up’ so to speak, they would have held their conferences in Blackpool rather than Brighton (or Liverpool, why preach to the converted?) and I will not get off that soapbox. I’m sure political parties have used Blackpool before, but not Labour in recent memory, when they really ought to, just to make the point, no matter how ‘grim’ as it’s that ’metropolitan’ attitude that has lost them such areas in the first place. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 23, 2024 23:27:06 GMT
As a delegate at one of the last Labour Party conferences that was held at the Winter Gardens in Blackpool, I can say exactly why Labour stopped coming there after 2002 and the Conservatives stopped coming after 2007. It's simply not suitable as a modern conference venue.
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Post by johnloony on Apr 24, 2024 1:09:35 GMT
I’ve only ever been to Blackpool once. I didn’t notice how grim it was because I was too busy being at the NUS annual conference. what year was that? I have been a few times for NUS in the distant past coincidentally a couple of my chums posted on fb today abiutbthe lovely trip,they weere having to ‘pool 1995. Jim Murphy was President, and Gloria De Piero was one of the people on the Executive. |
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Post by john07 on Apr 24, 2024 1:10:30 GMT
As a delegate at one of the last Labour Party conferences that was held at the Winter Gardens in Blackpool, I can say exactly why Labour stopped coming there after 2002 and the Conservatives stopped coming after 2007. It's simply not suitable as a modern conference venue. I went to numerous Labour Party Conferences at Blackpool, one as a delegate and others ex-officio as a Parliamentary Candidate. Back then it alternated between Blackpool and Brighton. Once, as a PPC, I was sitting next to Fenner Brockway. He gave me a lot of advice for the future. He would have been in his nineties back then. I did attend Regional Conferences at Blackpool. That meant that you could get to stay at the Imperial. At Party Conferences in Blackpool, everyone wanted to drink at the Imperial. After hours, non-residents could not buy alcohol. That was unless you could offer to buy a drink for a resident and get hold of their key and present it to the night porter. |
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Post by johnloony on Apr 24, 2024 1:11:01 GMT
As a delegate at one of the last Labour Party conferences that was held at the Winter Gardens in Blackpool, I can say exactly why Labour stopped coming there after 2002 and the Conservatives stopped coming after 2007. It's simply not suitable as a modern conference venue. Why? What criteria does a modern conference need, and why does Blackpool no longer have them? And does NUS still have its conferences there? |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Apr 24, 2024 4:53:17 GMT
Very few places in GB are up to scratch for modern Conferences. The size, the hotel provision, modern facilities, cost, media facilities, WiFi/internet facilities, food/drinks, space for security and police, on and on and on.
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Post by matureleft on Apr 24, 2024 8:24:04 GMT
As a delegate at one of the last Labour Party conferences that was held at the Winter Gardens in Blackpool, I can say exactly why Labour stopped coming there after 2002 and the Conservatives stopped coming after 2007. It's simply not suitable as a modern conference venue. Yup. I’m afraid so. The venue is cramped and poorly configured for a large conference with all the activities that must nowadays take place. The accommodation is pretty grim (but cheap if you can bear it) for those who can’t get the limited amount of good places. The secondary venues aren’t great. But I always found it a culturally bracing and interesting place to go and its (necessary) passing from the circuit was sad. In contrast I wasn’t sorry to see Bournemouth dropped even though the facilities were better - a dull place, at least to me. |
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Post by batman on Apr 24, 2024 8:41:11 GMT
it does have a rather good symphony orchestra but the pubs are below average for a major English town
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Post by graham on Apr 24, 2024 9:04:05 GMT
In what way was Blackpool a suitable Conference venue back in the 60s/70s /80s in a way that it has ceased to be?
At one time Scarborough was also regularly chosen - but appears to have been dropped even further back than Blackpool /Brighton.
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Post by edgbaston on Apr 24, 2024 9:17:10 GMT
This by the same nepo toff that wrote the article about the marsh farm estate in Luton. Does he get off on dramatised poverty. It’s highly unedifying shit journalism. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Apr 24, 2024 9:17:47 GMT
In what way was Blackpool a suitable Conference venue back in the 60s/70s /80s in a way that it has ceased to be? At one time Scarborough was also regularly chosen - but appears to have been dropped even further back than Blackpool /Brighton. Nowadays you need a lot of rooms for fringe events, a modern and technologically advanced main room, much more infrastructure for the media, including WiFi etc, much better hotels with more modern infrastructure, with proper transport links from all over the country. The seaside resorts were fine for a week with a single maxim Conference hall and a few side rooms. That doesn't cut it now. |
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