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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Apr 17, 2024 8:20:17 GMT
There is a degree of wealth in nearby parts of Lancashire, where there is high-skilled manufacturing employment. Given that large-scale domestic tourism of the kind Blackpool depended on isn't likely to come back, I would suggest that the primary solution is to develop other economic strengths, whether that be trying to integrate more into the nearby cluster, getting a university, something else or some combination thereof. The tourism will still exist but it should be seen as an added bonus, not as a sine qua non.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Apr 17, 2024 8:43:18 GMT
There is a degree of wealth in nearby parts of Lancashire, where there is high-skilled manufacturing employment. Given that large-scale domestic tourism of the kind Blackpool depended on isn't likely to come back, I would suggest that the primary solution is to develop other economic strengths, whether that be trying to integrate more into the nearby cluster, getting a university, something else or some combination thereof. The tourism will still exist but it should be seen as an added bonus, not as a sine qua non. Blackpool and Fylde College is pushing its promotion all over the place, I've noticed.
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Post by carlton43 on Apr 17, 2024 9:18:20 GMT
There is a degree of wealth in nearby parts of Lancashire, where there is high-skilled manufacturing employment. Given that large-scale domestic tourism of the kind Blackpool depended on isn't likely to come back, I would suggest that the primary solution is to develop other economic strengths, whether that be trying to integrate more into the nearby cluster, getting a university, something else or some combination thereof. The tourism will still exist but it should be seen as an added bonus, not as a sine qua non. Oh! I don't think so. Let it die a quiet natural death, as it has been for decades. Leave it alone to decline and disappear. When something is over it's over. A University of Blackpool? Really? REALLY? What would be studied? Pure and Applied Ennui Large interminable beaches Funny masks and 'Kiss Me Quick' hats How NOT to do good hospitality Comparative seediness and decrepitude I don't think so. Come friendly bombs and fall on *********
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Post by carlton43 on Apr 17, 2024 9:25:21 GMT
Kim Knight, the Alliance candidate: LOL She is even wearing a traditional 'Kiss Me Quick' hat for the occasion. A woman without any aspiration if she has willingly immured herself in that slum hell-hole since 1979! A town of 'constant change and welcome diversity'! Really? The sole point of Blackpool is that it is all universally awful and has no diversity at all. The woman is against political parties yet is standing for one with a manifesto of monumental lies and nonsense. Just what Blackpool needs to accurately represent it ..... An absolute idiotic Moron. She should do well.
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Post by timrollpickering on Apr 17, 2024 9:30:03 GMT
Blackpool and The Fylde College offers higher education courses in: Automotive & Motorsport Business & Enterprise Children, Young People & Families Computing & Digital Technologies Construction Creative Arts Criminology Engineering English Health & Medical Professions Hospitality, Culinary Skills & Events Management Learning Support Performing Arts & Music Public Services Science Sport, Leisure & Recreation Not all are degree level, some are HNC/HND and there are various CertHEs and Foundation Degrees in there. www.blackpool.ac.uk/degrees-home
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Post by Merseymike on Apr 17, 2024 9:52:25 GMT
Initially Blackpool was going to be a plate glass University. But Lancaster won through, given the Bailrigg campus.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Apr 17, 2024 11:15:01 GMT
There is a degree of wealth in nearby parts of Lancashire, where there is high-skilled manufacturing employment. Given that large-scale domestic tourism of the kind Blackpool depended on isn't likely to come back, I would suggest that the primary solution is to develop other economic strengths, whether that be trying to integrate more into the nearby cluster, getting a university, something else or some combination thereof. The tourism will still exist but it should be seen as an added bonus, not as a sine qua non. Oh! I don't think so. Let it die a quiet natural death, as it has been for decades. Leave it alone to decline and disappear. When something is over it's over. According to the census, Blackpool's population declined by 0.7% in the last decade (and the census doesn't include Blackpool's large number of seasonal residents.) It's currently about 141,000, down from a peak of 147,000 in the 1950s. The terrible local economic performance has stopped it growing, but on present trends it's not going to disappear any time soon. Part of the switch to a services economy means that there are fewer jobs that have to be done in a particular place, which means that we no longer have the circumstances that mean that areas can rapidly depopulate when their primary industry declines.
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Post by gibbon on Apr 17, 2024 15:13:21 GMT
Blackpool, Morecambe and other seaside towns were badly hit when the poll tax was introduced as many of the small guesthouses were clobbered by it. The only way that the landlords were able to survive was by taking in many homeless families from Manchester and other cities.
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Post by timmullen on Apr 17, 2024 15:33:55 GMT
Blackpool, Morecambe and other seaside towns were badly hit when the poll tax was introduced as many of the small guesthouses were clobbered by it. The only way that the landlords were able to survive was by taking in many homeless families from Manchester and other cities. I don’t know if Lancashire has got into this but from family on the other side of the Pennines I understand places like Scarborough and Whitby are seeing a lot of former hotels converted into care homes (there’s a BBC documentary series from a couple of years ago where Ed Balls went to work in one that should never have been licensed by the CQC).
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Post by bsjmcr on Apr 17, 2024 19:19:46 GMT
Initially Blackpool was going to be a plate glass University. But Lancaster won through, given the Bailrigg campus. I didn’t know that! I wonder if it did come to fruition (assuming it would have also been founded in the 60s and not 1992) would the “University of Blackpool” have become just as prestigious as Lancaster (for all intents and purposes, whilst Lancaster isn’t in the Russell Group it is usually ranked in the top 10 or 20) or would the Blackpool name have put people off? I haven’t been to Lancaster but it is a strange one hanging off the M6 and not that close to the old city itself, but it seems to have done well for itself. The thought of a coastal university is appealing, and we don’t have too many in England, less those considered as high ranking, other than Liverpool, and stretching the coast definition a bit, Newcastle and Exeter. There is also Bournemouth and Brighton but those are the post-92 era ones. Sussex is also in Brighton and one of the better non-RG ones I’m told. I believe Scarborough has/had a campus of a Yorkshire university(Leeds/Hull?).
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Post by timmullen on Apr 17, 2024 19:26:26 GMT
Initially Blackpool was going to be a plate glass University. But Lancaster won through, given the Bailrigg campus. I didn’t know that! I wonder if it did come to fruition (assuming it would have also been founded in the 60s and not 1992) would the “University of Blackpool” have become just as prestigious as Lancaster (for all intents and purposes, whilst Lancaster isn’t in the Russell Group it is usually ranked in the top 10 or 20) or would the Blackpool name have put people off? I haven’t been to Lancaster but it is a strange one hanging off the M6 and not that close to the old city itself, but it seems to have done well for itself. The thought of a coastal university is appealing, and we don’t have too many in England, less those considered as high ranking, other than Liverpool, and stretching the coast definition a bit, Newcastle and Exeter. There is also Bournemouth and Brighton but those are the post-92 era ones. Sussex is also in Brighton and one of the better non-RG ones I’m told. I believe Scarborough has/had a campus of a Yorkshire university(Leeds/Hull?). Just as a campus back in the late 1980’s/early 1990’s at least Lancaster was a horrible place, the Brittle Bone Society used to hold its AGM weekend there; the buildings were decrepit, there was a total dearth of greenery, and the ovens broke down at least once over the week necessitating an urgent visit to local chippy’s that could quickly cater for a couple of hundred people.
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Post by john07 on Apr 17, 2024 23:24:26 GMT
Initially Blackpool was going to be a plate glass University. But Lancaster won through, given the Bailrigg campus. Rather too late for such now. If would be a better option to encourage the University of Central Lancashire to open a Blackpool campus. Cheap property prices could make it a decent option.
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Post by ricmk on Apr 17, 2024 23:35:38 GMT
I can't imagine the news from Fylde will make things any easier for the Tory campaign here. Bet Labour can't believe their luck.
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Post by batman on Apr 18, 2024 6:15:30 GMT
I can't imagine the news from Fylde will make things any easier for the Tory campaign here. Bet Labour can't believe their luck. true but the Tories never had a chance of holding the seat before this news broke anyway. It’ll be all over the local papers
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Post by Wisconsin on Apr 18, 2024 7:28:01 GMT
The Fylde-based Tory candidate must be secretly quite pleased. As long as he doesn’t mess up he must be in pole position to get selected for Fylde for the General. It might actually be bad for his long term career if he somehow wins Blackpool South.
EDIT: Unless of course he’s involved in the Menzies shenanigans.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 18, 2024 8:11:57 GMT
He is Chairman of the Association, so you would expect he might have spotted or been alerted to £14,000 going out of campaign funds to a personal account of the MP.
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Post by iainbhx on Apr 18, 2024 12:13:30 GMT
He is Chairman of the Association, so you would expect he might have spotted or been alerted to £14,000 going out of campaign funds to a personal account of the MP. The leaflets, as they say, write themselves, albeit in this case probably with guidance from Messrs Sue, Grabbit and Runne.
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Post by edgbaston on Apr 19, 2024 15:17:51 GMT
With everything going on locally could reform come second and push the Tories into a humiliating third place?
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Post by batman on Apr 19, 2024 19:24:16 GMT
My guess is No to that one. However it is only a guess.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Apr 19, 2024 20:20:48 GMT
Nobody believes that the Chair of Fylde Conservative Association, now Tory candidate here, didn't know about the accusations against Mark Menzies:
He has been hung out to dry by the party.
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