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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Apr 9, 2024 20:50:54 GMT
Kim Knight, the Alliance candidate:   |
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Post by batman on Apr 9, 2024 22:47:03 GMT
Labour would have to be at least 47.1% ahead of the Tories. Can't be entirely ruled out but it's ambitious. Interesting that you say this because when Dudley West set the record by-election swing in 1994 Labour came out ~50% ahead! that was of course entirely down to me canvassing in that election |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Apr 10, 2024 8:38:35 GMT
Kim Knight, the Alliance candidate: Will she get more or fewer votes than words in that statement. |
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Post by markgoodair on Apr 10, 2024 12:11:50 GMT
Kim Knight, the Alliance candidate: Will she get more or fewer votes than words in that statement. Definitely less votes. |
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Post by MeirionGwril on Apr 11, 2024 14:04:39 GMT
Will she get more or fewer votes than words in that statement. Definitely less votes. *fewer; 'less' is used with non-count nouns, 'fewer' with count nouns (less money versus fewer coins) You're welcome |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Apr 11, 2024 14:29:06 GMT
*fewer; 'less' is used with non-count nouns, 'fewer' with count nouns (less money versus fewer coins) You're welcome Thanks. It does sound wrong. I was taught that you use 'fewer' when you can count something and given the number of votes will be known that's why I opted for that. But lets face it the English language is not the easiest. |
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Post by uthacalthing on Apr 11, 2024 15:23:05 GMT
I think you may be missing a little joke by Mark
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Post by MeirionGwril on Apr 12, 2024 7:59:49 GMT
I think you may be missing a little joke by Mark Aah - dwi ddim yn deall jocs saesneg!  |
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Post by batman on Apr 12, 2024 8:14:18 GMT
I think you may be missing a little joke by Mark Aah - dwi ddim yn deall jocs saesneg! on the contrary, I never fail to season my egg |
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Post by john07 on Apr 12, 2024 18:35:51 GMT
Aah - dwi ddim yn deall jocs saesneg! on the contrary, I never fail to season my egg My hovercraft is full of eels. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Apr 12, 2024 18:52:25 GMT
on the contrary, I never fail to season my egg My hovercraft is full of eels. My nipples explode with delight! |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Apr 12, 2024 19:32:09 GMT
Aah - dwi ddim yn deall jocs saesneg! on the contrary, I never fail to season my egg I would think that we're all clever enough on this forum to guess that "ddim" was a negative and "jocs" was 'jokes' and take it from there |
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Post by edgbaston on Apr 16, 2024 21:08:34 GMT
I campaigned here today, the healthy Labour canvas returns weren’t a surprise, but the level of deprivation - boarded up homes, shops, and old guesthouses, and an abundance of litter - was. A lady in a nicer area on the southern part of the seat said she hadn’t been into the centre “in years”. The tatty remnants of previous failed regeneration schemes, including a series of giant silver arches down the high street, are everywhere. I have no idea what can really be done to save Blackpool. Brighton would be a good model to follow but it’s just so so far from any major city to attract a ‘spillover’ of more prosperous families looking to move to the sea. And the amount of money you’d have to spend on the place to start attracting more than just budget tourism must be absolutely colossal.
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Post by john07 on Apr 16, 2024 22:09:53 GMT
I have been to Blackpool many times, largely for Labour Party National Conferences, Regional Conferences, and other Party events. I did even go on holiday there as a child. The decline was there to see from the mid-1970s onwards. Both Blackpool seats were solid Conservative back then largely due to the ‘landladies vote’.
Over time they disappeared as more accommodation moved to self-catering lets. Meantime the place went consistently downhill. These trends have been mirrored in many coastal constituencies although the Brighton Constituencies and others in the South have bucked these trends.
Regenerating places such as Blackpool will be a major challenge for an incoming Labour Government.
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Post by batman on Apr 16, 2024 22:46:04 GMT
I was a frequent visitor during childhood and early adulthood, as my grandparents lived at Squires Gate, my grandma moving closer to central St Annes after grandpa died. The decline between the late 70s & the early noughties was shocking. Although I had stunningly good fish & chips there in 2000.
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Post by carlton43 on Apr 17, 2024 0:06:22 GMT
I have been to Blackpool many times, largely for Labour Party National Conferences, Regional Conferences, and other Party events. I did even go on holiday there as a child. The decline was there to see from the mid-1970s onwards. Both Blackpool seats were solid Conservative back then largely due to the ‘landladies vote’. Over time they disappeared as more accommodation moved to self-catering lets. Meantime the place went consistently downhill. These trends have been mirrored in many coastal constituencies although the Brighton Constituencies and others in the South have bucked these trends. Regenerating places such as Blackpool will be a major challenge for an incoming Labour Government. Why bother and waste shed loads of money to no purpose? The whole reason and purpose for such places evaporated when the masses got more money, a private car, and access to cheap flights to warm places. Manage the decline and downsize by demolition of the worst areas. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Apr 17, 2024 2:12:08 GMT
I campaigned here today, the healthy Labour canvas returns weren’t a surprise, but the level of deprivation - boarded up homes, shops, and old guesthouses, and an abundance of litter - was. A lady in a nicer area on the southern part of the seat said she hadn’t been into the centre “in years”. The tatty remnants of previous failed regeneration schemes, including a series of giant silver arches down the high street, are everywhere. I have no idea what can really be done to save Blackpool. Brighton would be a good model to follow but it’s just so so far from any major city to attract a ‘spillover’ of more prosperous families looking to move to the sea. And the amount of money you’d have to spend on the place to start attracting more than just budget tourism must be absolutely colossal. I was a frequent visitor during childhood and early adulthood, as my grandparents lived at Squires Gate, my grandma moving closer to central St Annes after grandpa died. The decline between the late 70s & the early noughties was shocking. Although I had stunningly good fish & chips there in 2000. Blackpool has every chance to grow again and be half way decent again and I think both these experiences hint at the journey taken. There has been some great improvement in the town itself - the tram extension, the Central Station regeneration, the Abingdon Market refurb, the successful bids for civil service jobs relocation, etc. For too long it felt that some kind of 'managed decline ' was being enacted. I was there only a few weeks ago and edgbaston is right, pockets still look pretty grim. I think things like the Foxhall development and what they're doing around the football ground could be encouraging. The changes in post-Covid leisure and employment could be the ultimate test. Younger people aren't drinking much, we all know the shifts in pub and club culture, and Blackpool will have to adapt. Ma Kelly's still packs them in, that's for sure, so there is a leisure crowd that still wants to spend! |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Apr 17, 2024 2:15:18 GMT
I have been to Blackpool many times, largely for Labour Party National Conferences, Regional Conferences, and other Party events. I did even go on holiday there as a child. The decline was there to see from the mid-1970s onwards. Both Blackpool seats were solid Conservative back then largely due to the ‘landladies vote’. Over time they disappeared as more accommodation moved to self-catering lets. Meantime the place went consistently downhill. These trends have been mirrored in many coastal constituencies although the Brighton Constituencies and others in the South have bucked these trends. Regenerating places such as Blackpool will be a major challenge for an incoming Labour Government. I don't think it'll ever be a Conference town again and that kind of thing might have to be looked at to try and rescue the Winter Gardens etc from falling into disuse. To track the fortunes of Blackpool as a destination town, I recommend going into the Winter Gardens from the church entrance, where the headline 'turn' is recorded on the sort of boards you get at cricket clubs or the like. The graph in quality you can plot using that is a real insight. |
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Post by batman on Apr 17, 2024 6:23:20 GMT
Actually had no idea about the tram extension, which is normally the kind of thing I’d know about.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Apr 17, 2024 6:34:18 GMT
Actually had no idea about the tram extension, which is normally the kind of thing I’d know about. It's very British in that it doesn't really make a tonne of sense, isn't fully integrated with the buses or railway, is over budget and timescale, and all the rest of it, though being British means we have to accept at this point that nothing really works and possibly was designed that way. Mi two highlights are the one-way only tram stop at the bottom of Talbot Street which they've built with (still) no real indication that it is a tram stop, and the "you shall not pass" way the railway and trams are so close to one another without touching. |
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