J.G.Harston
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Post by J.G.Harston on Feb 11, 2024 12:26:24 GMT
Is it grade inflation now or was it grades being artificially lowered in the past, through? Or a bit of both? What it does mean is that grades awarded under one system of assessment are very difficult to compare with those awarded under another system. Jus t a few years ago on another Blog quite a few disparaging comments were being made about Jeremy Corbyn's A Level grades. Apparently he obtained two E grades in scientific subjects. I am not a Corbynite , but I felt obliged to intervene to point out that his grades were awarded in 1967 /68 - and that E grades from that era would at the very least equate to C grades today. Still not exactly brilliant , but it did not make him the 'thicko' which some youngish commentators were seeking to imply! Indeed, some time ago I was looking at university marking schemes and discovered that my "Pass" 35 years ago would be a 2:2 today. And from experience with working with new graduates recently, their utter incompetence makes me utterly bemused what they paid their 40 grand for. And (argh! another conjuctive sentence) I've downloaded course curricula and exam papers, and they leave me wondering how people are doing a degree course in stuff they should know before doing A levels. |
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Post by graham on Feb 11, 2024 12:41:01 GMT
What it does mean is that grades awarded under one system of assessment are very difficult to compare with those awarded under another system. Jus t a few years ago on another Blog quite a few disparaging comments were being made about Jeremy Corbyn's A Level grades. Apparently he obtained two E grades in scientific subjects. I am not a Corbynite , but I felt obliged to intervene to point out that his grades were awarded in 1967 /68 - and that E grades from that era would at the very least equate to C grades today. Still not exactly brilliant , but it did not make him the 'thicko' which some youngish commentators were seeking to imply! Indeed, some time ago I was looking at university marking schemes and discovered that my "Pass" 35 years ago would be a 2:2 today. And from experience with working with new graduates recently, their utter incompetence makes me utterly bemused what they paid their 40 grand for. And (argh! another conjuctive sentence) I've downloaded course curricula and exam papers, and they leave me wondering how people are doing a degree course in stuff they should know before doing A levels. That certainly confirms the widely-held impression that those who left with 2.2 degrees in the 1970s could now expect a very comfortable 2.1. Indeed a former student from the early 1970s has gone as far as to suggest that some 2.2 degrees from that era would now be 1sts! |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 13, 2024 13:17:41 GMT
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Post by johnloony on Feb 14, 2024 11:33:22 GMT
Betting odds:
Betfair: Labour 1.04 Conservative 17.5
Oddschecker: Lab 1/14 Con 12/1 Ref 14/1
Smarkets: Lab 96.15% Ref 6.90% Con 5.71%
Betfair: Lab 1.08 Ref 14.0 Con 21.0
Betfred: Lab 1/7 Con 9/2 Ref 25/1
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Post by gibbon on Feb 14, 2024 15:21:39 GMT
Will Labour victories in Wellingborough and Kingswood have an effect on the Rochdale debate? Would it reduce the pressure on Starmer and return the focus on the Conservatives problems?
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Post by johnloony on Feb 14, 2024 15:28:26 GMT
Out of all the three parliamentary by-elections this month, I was thinking that Rochdale is the one that Labour is most likely to lose. Labour gaining Wellingborough and Kingswood was (I had assumed) a slam-dunk, or a flop-soggy, or a piece of cake, or whatever you call it).
But the most recent national opinion poll has Labour down to 41%, the lowest for nearly 2 years. If Labour is wobbling - because of perceptions about how Starmer has mishandled Rochdale - then perhaps they will stumble and possibly not win Wellingborough with the necessary 18% swing. So in a double-bluff of psephological irony, Labour might manage to lose Wellingborough and somehow hold Rochdale anyway.
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Post by johnloony on Feb 14, 2024 15:30:26 GMT
Will Labour victories in Wellingborough and Kingswood have an effect on the Rochdale debate? Would it reduce the pressure on Starmer and return the focus on the Conservatives problems? A week is a long time in politics. By the time we get to Rochdale in 2 weeks’ time, Wellingborough and Kingswood will be ancient history. |
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Post by gibbon on Feb 14, 2024 15:35:59 GMT
How many postal votes are there in both Wellingborough and Kingswood? How many were returned before last weekend? It could be that the issues in Rochdale has made no impact on tomorrows elections.
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Post by adlai52 on Feb 14, 2024 19:06:55 GMT
How many postal votes are there in both Wellingborough and Kingswood? How many were returned before last weekend? It could be that the issues in Rochdale has made no impact on tomorrows elections. I would gently suggest that most of those voting in either by election haven’t got a clue about Rochdale. As to recent polling, we’ve had 4 polls conducted over a similar period, 2 show the Labour lead growing, 1 shows it decking slightly and another 1 shows a big drop. So I wouldn’t read too much into them and the implications for tomorrow tbh. |
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batman
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Post by batman on Feb 14, 2024 19:14:03 GMT
there's been two more today, one GB-wide & another "Blue Wall" only
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cogload
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Post by cogload on Feb 14, 2024 19:31:14 GMT
Ramp ramp ramp
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batman
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Post by batman on Feb 14, 2024 20:30:36 GMT
can't see that unfortunately
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cogload
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Post by cogload on Feb 14, 2024 20:35:00 GMT
can't see that unfortunately Basically the political correspondent of the Observer tweeted that the Tories are going to do much better than everyone predicted in Wellingborough. |
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Post by uthacalthing on Feb 14, 2024 20:39:22 GMT
maybe £500 better
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cogload
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Post by cogload on Feb 14, 2024 22:49:53 GMT
Well then:
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Post by london(ex)tory on Feb 14, 2024 23:21:18 GMT
He’s saying Tory voters more likely to turnout than Labour voters? That’s absolute horseshit. We’re nowhere near as experienced or resourced enough to match Labour for data collection, but our canvassing suggests the Tory vote is as uncommitted as it’s possible to be. |
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Post by jamesdoyle on Feb 14, 2024 23:34:51 GMT
I've said it before and I'll have many opportunities to say it again: Labour are crap at by elections.
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Feb 14, 2024 23:46:49 GMT
Having had a look at what they've posted, if that's right it's only going to be by accident.
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Post by mattbewilson on Feb 15, 2024 0:07:48 GMT
Ian Warren involved in this. If it's the guy I'm thinking of he used to run a very interesting twitter and worked for Ed Miliband and UKIP in Heywood and Middleton
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Post by wysall on Feb 15, 2024 0:40:05 GMT
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