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Post by yellowperil on Oct 26, 2023 7:38:10 GMT
I really think Carlton's line of defence for Peter Bone should be widely distributed. I am sure it will do wonders for his cause and that of the Conservative Party more generally.
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Post by bigfatron on Oct 26, 2023 7:50:48 GMT
In the absence of an obvious local dimension which would mitigate the Tories' position, Labour will start as clear favourites in Wellingborough. It’ll be interesting to see if Labour outdo their 2001 result. In 2021, the Tories won the locals by about 24% in the Wellingborough constituency (49% to Labour’s 25%): x.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1717337518113223052?s=20. Candidate choice will matter here. Actually the average of those five swings is 17.5%... |
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Post by YL on Oct 26, 2023 7:52:29 GMT
Campaigning last night for the Wellingborough TC by-election in Queensway ward:
Helen Harrison is a Tory councillor for Oundle on North Northamptonshire council. Unsurprisingly the tweet has had quite a lot of replies.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2023 8:05:32 GMT
I really think Carlton's line of defence for Peter Bone should be widely distributed. I am sure it will do wonders for his cause and that of the Conservative Party more generally. Is this some bizarre generational thing? It's like how my grandad used the word 'c*on' into the 1990s, and my grandma regularly used the word 'blackies'. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 26, 2023 8:14:15 GMT
Just thinking about timing. The council should be formally notified to begin the recall petition process this week. It normally takes a fortnight at least to set it up, and the recall has to run for six weeks, which takes us to about the new year. If the petition is successful, It then takes a few weeks to organise the byelection, so it's likely to be late February or early March should a byelection happen.
A byelection could be avoided if the government wished to have a May 2024 general election.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Oct 26, 2023 8:50:47 GMT
I really think Carlton's line of defence for Peter Bone should be widely distributed. I am sure it will do wonders for his cause and that of the Conservative Party more generally. Is this some bizarre generational thing? It's like how my grandad used the word 'c*on' into the 1990s, and my grandma regularly used the word 'blackies'. How I turned out liberal in a family which casually used "co--", "dark--", "blac----" and assorted others will always be a surprise. Gran Pennington would opinie that her native Wigan 'would be Muslim soon" and that was back when I wager it was 99% white, it's not that much different today! |
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Oct 26, 2023 8:57:33 GMT
Just thinking about timing. The council should be formally notified to begin the recall petition process this week. It normally takes a fortnight at least to set it up, and the recall has to run for six weeks, which takes us to about the new year. If the petition is successful, It then takes a few weeks to organise the byelection, so it's likely to be late February or early March should a byelection happen. A byelection could be avoided if the government wished to have a May 2024 general election. If the petition launches on Monday, then it would end on December 11th 2024, Parliament rises for Christmas on December 19th and sits again on January 8th, so a by-election announced on that day would happen early to mid February with any May 2024 general election announced in late March, so there is still time to hold a Wellingborough by-election if the recall passes. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 26, 2023 9:37:05 GMT
What a load of low level loser total bollocks. Most of us in the 60s-80s suffered far worse than that. Call that bullying you pusillanimous little wimp perverts! And you turned out fine... Oh, never mind. |
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Post by greatkingrat on Oct 26, 2023 9:37:12 GMT
Is there a curse of John Bercow? Mr Peter Bone is undergoing a recall election, Bambos Charalambous is currently suspended, plus Bercow himself was almost expelled.
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Post by YL on Oct 26, 2023 9:38:50 GMT
Just thinking about timing. The council should be formally notified to begin the recall petition process this week. It normally takes a fortnight at least to set it up, and the recall has to run for six weeks, which takes us to about the new year. If the petition is successful, It then takes a few weeks to organise the byelection, so it's likely to be late February or early March should a byelection happen. A byelection could be avoided if the government wished to have a May 2024 general election. If the petition launches on Monday, then it would end on December 11th 2024, Parliament rises for Christmas on December 19th and sits again on January 8th, so a by-election announced on that day would happen early to mid February with any May 2024 general election announced in late March, so there is still time to hold a Wellingborough by-election if the recall passes. According to the Recall Act, the petition is supposed to open on the 10th working day after the Speaker formally notifies the petitions officer of North Northamptonshire council. Assuming the Speaker does this today, it should open on Thursday 9 November and close on Wednesday 20 December. That is after the beginning of recess, so the by-election can’t be called until the House returns in January, with the earliest possible Thursday being 8 February and 15 February perhaps the most likely date. (How about 29 February, for trivia fans?) The recess means that a short delay in the notification makes little difference to the timing of the by-election. If Sunak has decided on May and doesn’t mind people inferring this, then that almost certainly means no by-election, but I think that leaving it vacant until an autumn or winter General Election would be frowned on. |
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Post by johnloony on Oct 26, 2023 9:49:59 GMT
Is there a curse of John Bercow? Mr Peter Bone is undergoing a recall election, Bambos Charalambous is currently suspended, plus Bercow himself was almost expelled. Why would one link those three particular people, but not the various other naughty MPs or former MPs? |
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Post by jonnysaintsfan on Oct 26, 2023 9:55:58 GMT
If I were a Tory candidate, I'd pledge to reopen the Rushden railway link. The old station is beautiful but it's a big town not to have a railway link (possibly the largest). I always understood Gosport to be the largest settlement without a current railway station, but I stand to be corrected. |
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Post by greatkingrat on Oct 26, 2023 10:09:55 GMT
Is there a curse of John Bercow? Mr Peter Bone is undergoing a recall election, Bambos Charalambous is currently suspended, plus Bercow himself was almost expelled. Why would one link those three particular people, but not the various other naughty MPs or former MPs? |
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Post by graham on Oct 26, 2023 10:18:47 GMT
If the petition launches on Monday, then it would end on December 11th 2024, Parliament rises for Christmas on December 19th and sits again on January 8th, so a by-election announced on that day would happen early to mid February with any May 2024 general election announced in late March, so there is still time to hold a Wellingborough by-election if the recall passes. According to the Recall Act, the petition is supposed to open on the 10th working day after the Speaker formally notifies the petitions officer of North Northamptonshire council. Assuming the Speaker does this today, it should open on Thursday 9 November and close on Wednesday 20 December. That is after the beginning of recess, so the by-election can’t be called until the House returns in January, with the earliest possible Thursday being 8 February and 15 February perhaps the most likely date. (How about 29 February, for trivia fans?) The recess means that a short delay in the notification makes little difference to the timing of the by-election. If Sunak has decided on May and doesn’t mind people inferring this, then that almost certainly means no by-election, but I think that leaving it vacant until an autumn or winter General Election would be frowned on. There is,of course, no obligation on the Government to move the writ as soon as a seat becomes vacant - indeed there are examples of writs not being moved for several months thereafter. The fate of Scott Benton in Blackpool is also likely to have some bearing on the date chosen in that the Government is likely to combine them on the same day. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 26, 2023 10:23:49 GMT
If I were a Tory candidate, I'd pledge to reopen the Rushden railway link. The old station is beautiful but it's a big town not to have a railway link (possibly the largest). I always understood Gosport to be the largest settlement without a current railway station, but I stand to be corrected. The other candidate is Dudley. |
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Post by greatkingrat on Oct 26, 2023 10:24:27 GMT
I think politically it is harder for the Government to delay a by-election caused by the recall process than it would be to delay a by-election caused by resignation/death, as they would be ignoring a clear public mandate for an election.
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 26, 2023 10:40:29 GMT
I really think Carlton's line of defence for Peter Bone should be widely distributed. I am sure it will do wonders for his cause and that of the Conservative Party more generally. Is this some bizarre generational thing? It's like how my grandad used the word 'c*on' into the 1990s, and my grandma regularly used the word 'blackies'. On behalf of my generation, no. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 26, 2023 10:58:09 GMT
Is this some bizarre generational thing? It's like how my grandad used the word 'c*on' into the 1990s, and my grandma regularly used the word 'blackies'. On behalf of my generation, no. I speak for myself and my memories of a period. You do not speak for 'our generation'. |
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Post by YL on Oct 26, 2023 11:03:04 GMT
According to the Recall Act, the petition is supposed to open on the 10th working day after the Speaker formally notifies the petitions officer of North Northamptonshire council. Assuming the Speaker does this today, it should open on Thursday 9 November and close on Wednesday 20 December. That is after the beginning of recess, so the by-election can’t be called until the House returns in January, with the earliest possible Thursday being 8 February and 15 February perhaps the most likely date. (How about 29 February, for trivia fans?) The recess means that a short delay in the notification makes little difference to the timing of the by-election. If Sunak has decided on May and doesn’t mind people inferring this, then that almost certainly means no by-election, but I think that leaving it vacant until an autumn or winter General Election would be frowned on. There is,of course, no obligation on the Government to move the writ as soon as a seat becomes vacant - indeed there are examples of writs not being moved for several months thereafter. The fate of Scott Benton in Blackpool is also likely to have some bearing on the date chosen in that the Government is likely to combine them on the same day. This is true, but recent by-elections, even ones which must have been expected to go badly, have generally been moved pretty quickly: not necessarily the first possible date, but usually within a few weeks. Unless they decide not to have it at all, I think it’ll be in February. |
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Post by batman on Oct 26, 2023 11:55:49 GMT
I always understood Gosport to be the largest settlement without a current railway station, but I stand to be corrected. The other candidate is Dudley. there are however railway stations in the Metropolitan Borough of Dudley, even though Sandwell & Dudley isn't one of them. At least one, Stourbridge Junction, offers peak-time direct trains to London (Marylebone). |
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