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Post by finsobruce on Oct 25, 2023 20:48:23 GMT
I totally oppose the whole recall system and would abolish it. Elections are the method. He was elected and must serve until he dies, resigns, retires or is defeated. We are within a year of the next GE. Why the fuss? What are the alledged charges anyway? If criminal charge him and convict him and then he is out. This hole and corner weasel-worded accusations by tired Tims, losers and general wankers have no effect on me. Good MP brought low by political machinations with nothing behind them at all This is poppycock politics for wimps and the usual suspect alt.woke like the non-memeber for Preston who is all of a lather over this, Woden help us. this line is almost a 21st century update(for me anyway) of Neil Kinnock's famous description of Charter 88! "Wingers, whiners and wankers" to be precise.
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 25, 2023 20:49:34 GMT
I totally oppose the whole recall system and would abolish it. Elections are the method. He was elected and must serve until he dies, resigns, retires or is defeated. We are within a year of the next GE. Why the fuss? What are the alledged charges anyway? If criminal charge him and convict him and then he is out. This hole and corner weasel-worded accusations by tired Tims, losers and general wankers have no effect on me. Good MP brought low by political machinations with nothing behind them at all This is poppycock politics for wimps and the usual suspect alt.woke like the non-memeber for Preston who is all of a lather over this, Woden help us. Talking of the member for Preston, a friend had cause to ask him for some help with the DWP in the summer. He didn't receive even an acknowledgement. He then rang the MPs office and was told that Hendrick, the MP, was seven weeks behind in his correspondence with constituents. He didn't mean Hendrick. He meant dok.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Oct 25, 2023 20:49:41 GMT
I totally oppose the whole recall system and would abolish it. Elections are the method. He was elected and must serve until he dies, resigns, retires or is defeated. We are within a year of the next GE. Why the fuss? What are the alledged charges anyway? If criminal charge him and convict him and then he is out. This hole and corner weasel-worded accusations by tired Tims, losers and general wankers have no effect on me. Good MP brought low by political machinations with nothing behind them at all This is poppycock politics for wimps and the usual suspect alt.woke like the non-memeber for Preston who is all of a lather over this, Woden help us. Talking of the member for Preston, a friend had cause to ask him for some help with the DWP in the summer. He didn't receive even an acknowledgement. He then rang the MPs office and was told that Hendrick, the MP, was seven weeks behind in his correspondence with constituents. Benefit overpayment of some sort?
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Oct 25, 2023 20:51:10 GMT
this line is almost a 21st century update(for me anyway) of Neil Kinnock's famous description of Charter 88! " Wingers, whiners and wankers" to be precise. What did Kinnock have against people who play on the flank?
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Post by observer on Oct 25, 2023 20:52:03 GMT
Talking of the member for Preston, a friend had cause to ask him for some help with the DWP in the summer. He didn't receive even an acknowledgement. He then rang the MPs office and was told that Hendrick, the MP, was seven weeks behind in his correspondence with constituents. He didn't mean Hendrick. He meant dok. Sorry dok
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 25, 2023 20:52:53 GMT
" Wingers, whiners and wankers" to be precise. What did Kinnock have against people who play on the flank? I dunno. Maybe they crossed a line.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Oct 25, 2023 20:53:51 GMT
What did Kinnock have against people who play on the flank? I dunno. Maybe they crossed a line. Or even a spherical ball?
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 25, 2023 20:55:25 GMT
What a load of low level loser total bollocks. Most of us in the 60s-80s suffered far worse than that. Call that bullying you pusillanimous little wimp perverts! The proper reaction (if it is true at all, which I doubt) would be "Fuck off Peter, or I will slap your face and knee you in the balls; and then spread rumours of you being a closet shirtlifter. And as you know I know how to spin! Get on the phone and find some rough trade ....... And use their room."
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Oct 25, 2023 21:03:45 GMT
He didn't mean Hendrick. He meant dok. Sorry dok Ah it's fine.
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 25, 2023 21:09:40 GMT
"Wingers, whiners and wankers" to be precise. I suppose the rugby reference was for Welsh consumption? Surely that would be flankers rather than wankers?
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Post by batman on Oct 25, 2023 22:01:44 GMT
This also makes me wonder-will this prompt his long-time friend and parliamentary neighbour Phillip Hollobone to stand down at the next election? They regularly submitted Private Members' Bills as a pair. Channeling Harry rather there aren't you? was about to say Pete
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Post by batman on Oct 25, 2023 22:06:32 GMT
If I were a Tory candidate, I'd pledge to reopen the Rushden railway link. The old station is beautiful but it's a big town not to have a railway link (possibly the largest). There is a Wikipedia entry claiming that this is true of Rushden, but Gosport has something like twice its population (or more depending on how you define Rushden's built-up area) and has no railway station, just a ferry link to Portsmouth where there are railway stations.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Oct 25, 2023 22:16:27 GMT
If I were a Tory candidate, I'd pledge to reopen the Rushden railway link. The old station is beautiful but it's a big town not to have a railway link (possibly the largest). There is a Wikipedia entry claiming that this is true of Rushden, but Gosport has something like twice its population (or more depending on how you define Rushden's built-up area) and has no railway station, just a ferry link to Portsmouth where there are railway stations. I think Dudley would like a word (Sandwell and Dudley station is in Oldbury and used to be called that). The town is getting linked to the Midland Metro, but that's a tram system, and as it is partly using the old railway alignment will effectively kill off any chance of a proper train service returning.
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 25, 2023 22:42:45 GMT
I suppose the rugby reference was for Welsh consumption? Surely that would be flankers rather than wankers? Of course. The 'h' being silent as in Hampstead.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2023 4:44:23 GMT
Recent by-election swings:
Wakefield 2022: 12.7% Selby & Ainsty: 23.7% Uxbridge & South Ruislip: 6.7% Mid Bedfordshire: 20.5% Tamworth: 23.9%
Average: 13.67% CON to LAB
Swing needed in Wellingborough: 17.9%
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Post by elinorhelyn on Oct 26, 2023 5:44:40 GMT
What a load of low level loser total bollocks. Most of us in the 60s-80s suffered far worse than that. Call that bullying you pusillanimous little wimp perverts! The proper reaction (if it is true at all, which I doubt) would be "Fuck off Peter, or I will slap your face and knee you in the balls; and then spread rumours of you being a closet shirtlifter. And as you know I know how to spin! Get on the phone and find some rough trade ....... And use their room." Well, that settles that then!
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Post by batman on Oct 26, 2023 6:59:45 GMT
Recent by-election swings: Wakefield 2022: 12.7% Selby & Ainsty: 23.7% Uxbridge & South Ruislip: 6.7% Mid Bedfordshire: 20.5% Tamworth: 23.9% Average: 13.67% CON to LAB Swing needed in Wellingborough: 17.9% that's of limited relevance, well certainly Wakefield is as the polling now is substantially better for Labour than it was then. The swing needed is actually very similar to that required in Selby & Ainsty. In the absence of an obvious local dimension which would mitigate the Tories' position, Labour will start as clear favourites in Wellingborough.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2023 7:03:05 GMT
Recent by-election swings: Wakefield 2022: 12.7% Selby & Ainsty: 23.7% Uxbridge & South Ruislip: 6.7% Mid Bedfordshire: 20.5% Tamworth: 23.9% Average: 13.67% CON to LAB Swing needed in Wellingborough: 17.9% In the absence of an obvious local dimension which would mitigate the Tories' position, Labour will start as clear favourites in Wellingborough. It’ll be interesting to see if Labour outdo their 2001 result. In 2021, the Tories won the locals by about 24% in the Wellingborough constituency (49% to Labour’s 25%): x.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1717337518113223052?s=20. Candidate choice will matter here.
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 26, 2023 7:25:04 GMT
Seems inevitable that the petition will reach threshold (I know I posted otherwise when report first came out, but total withdrawal of Tory support for him makes it inevitable now imo) Will he stand down quickly and retain a little more dignity, as Chris Pincher did? The equation of Chris Pincher and dignity shows how everything is relative.
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Post by matureleft on Oct 26, 2023 7:32:54 GMT
This one seems to have gone under the radar for opposition parties. As far as I can tell no candidates have been selected. Still, this will be a drawn out process with a reasonable amount of time to set up a campaign and establish some sort of candidate profile before a date is set. Labour last won round here in 2005 and, I'd guess, has a sketchy organisation but more substantial than in Bedfordshire.
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