andrea
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Post by andrea on Jun 21, 2013 0:22:44 GMT
STV saying it looks as 3) LD 4) Con 5) UKIP
8-9% swing SNP to Lab. Mainly due to SNP drop rather than Labour small increase
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Post by john07 on Jun 21, 2013 0:33:28 GMT
Lord Monckton is struggling to understand the distinction between the protesters in Edinburgh and the SNP. Am I the only one who thinks that Lord Monkton looked rather 'swivel-eyed'? In fact his two eyes were often looking in different directions!
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 21, 2013 0:36:57 GMT
How much longer, then?? Wanna go to bed.....
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 21, 2013 0:39:15 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks that Lord Monkton looked rather 'swivel-eyed'? Well, he's got Graves' disease, of which Graves' ophthalmopathy is the most prominent symptom.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 0:48:53 GMT
How much longer, then?? Wanna go to bed..... Indeed... I have a count to go to tomorrow morning!
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Post by independentukip on Jun 21, 2013 0:51:07 GMT
Of the panel on the BBC Scotland show I have to say the Labour representative is by far the most impressive to my mind. She has shown a most refreshing degree of frankness and honesty.
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Post by AdminSTB on Jun 21, 2013 0:52:16 GMT
SNP 9814 Labour 7789 Lib Dems 1940 Conservative 1791 UKIP 1128 Green 410 NF 249 Christian 222 SDA 35
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Post by marksenior on Jun 21, 2013 0:54:35 GMT
UKIP lost deposit
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 0:58:23 GMT
SNP - 42.0% Lab - 33.3% LD - 8.3% Con - 7.7% UKIP - 4.8% Grn - 1.8% NF - 1.1% SCP - 0.9% SDA - 0.1%
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Post by independentukip on Jun 21, 2013 1:00:20 GMT
With that result I trust the Scottish Green supporters here will agree that should there be another Scottish Parliament by-election between now and 2016, and UKIP are excluded from any hustings, that the Scottish Green Party candidate should similarly be excluded.
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Post by mrhell on Jun 21, 2013 1:06:42 GMT
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Post by AdminSTB on Jun 21, 2013 1:10:53 GMT
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Post by independentukip on Jun 21, 2013 1:20:25 GMT
A very good point mrhell. Fraser confirmed my thinking it was the last minute controversy over the letter to the late MSP that provided the most publicity for the UKIP candidate over the entire campaign. The explicit exclusion of Mr Inglis from the state broadcasters hustings in particular denied him a significant opportunity to put his and the UKIP case to the Aberdeen electorate. If the Scottish Greens with no FPTP MSPs are entitled to full participation in hustings then so should UKIP. Despite UKIP trouncing the Scottish Greens here if it is felt the Greens should in future be excluded from hustings I would accept that UKIP should be similarly treated.
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Post by AdminSTB on Jun 21, 2013 1:24:06 GMT
Back in the run up to the 2010 elections when I was still a Green insider, there was much effort being made to try to get Caroline Lucas more TV coverage, but the BBC kept refusing giving the excuse that they only offered a platform to parties who already held at least one parliamentary seat and thus the Greens were excluded at that time since they had no MPs.
Assuming the BBC are consistent, it thus makes sense that in a contest to elect a new MSP, most coverage is given to parties who already have MSPs.
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Post by independentukip on Jun 21, 2013 1:27:43 GMT
Assuming the BBC are consistent, it thus makes sense that in a contest to elect a new MSP, most coverage is given to parties who already have MSPs. I basically agree - those with FPTP MSPs should in normal terms receive greater coverage than those without FPTP MSPs.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jun 21, 2013 1:28:39 GMT
Interesting. I'd be fascinated to see box-by-box counts, on the basis that outside Bridge of Don I only had to mention the Haudagain to get a favourable response, whereas a voter in Bridge of Don nicely summarrised the opinion of our candidate there by opening the door and stating, "Willie Young? Arsehole!" and shutting the door.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jun 21, 2013 1:31:59 GMT
On tonight's swing, the Scottish Lib Dems would regain Fife North East, Edinburgh Western and Aberdeenshire West, with Midlothian South, Tweeddale & Lauderdale and Skye, Lochaber & Badenoch being extremely marginal.
"Midlothian South, Tweeddale & Lauderdale and Skye, Lochaber & Badenoch " are just two seats.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jun 21, 2013 1:47:01 GMT
On tonight's swing, the Scottish Lib Dems would regain Fife North East, Edinburgh Western and Aberdeenshire West, with Midlothian South, Tweeddale & Lauderdale and Skye, Lochaber & Badenoch being extremely marginal. "Midlothian South, Tweeddale & Lauderdale and Skye, Lochaber & Badenoch " are just two seats. Interesting use of the word regsin.
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Post by dustymac on Jun 21, 2013 6:10:21 GMT
I wonder how different results would be if all parties were treated fairly when it came to time in front of a camera
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 6:59:43 GMT
On tonight's swing, the Scottish Lib Dems would regain Fife North East, Edinburgh Western and Aberdeenshire West, with Midlothian South, Tweeddale & Lauderdale and Skye, Lochaber & Badenoch being extremely marginal. "Midlothian South, Tweeddale & Lauderdale and Skye, Lochaber & Badenoch " are just two seats.But imagine if it was one seat
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