johnr
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Post by johnr on Jun 18, 2013 12:12:57 GMT
Probaby indicates use of an out of date register, and an indication of the lack of organisation rather than anything else.
Mr. Adams son was also on twitter complaining that Labour had sent him a personally adressed letter.
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Post by Crimson King on Jun 18, 2013 12:34:00 GMT
It is enterely possible that Mr Adam is on the current register. These things happen - yes its a pain when it does but is it suggested that all these letters are hand addressed by people who should personally know who is alive and who isn't?
Edit - thinking further. The SNP know perfectly well that letters are printed by computer and stuffed en masse by volunteers (or machines) and that these things happen, but have chosen to make an issue of it for political gain - who is being most disrespectful to the late Mr Adams and his family I wonder?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 18, 2013 13:19:34 GMT
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Post by iainbhx on Jun 18, 2013 13:57:37 GMT
Which is pathetic. I know how distressing such letters can be, but register cleaning is not always perfect and never will be. The only time I would get mildly annoyed was if I had informed the parties and they still arrived. My late parents lived in a marginal and I took the trouble of removing them from the register. I also informed the two main political parties by email. The flow of letters from one party stopped immediately, the flow from the other main party stopped before the election, but for a couple of months. However, the national mailings did not stop. |
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Post by irish observer on Jun 18, 2013 14:50:52 GMT
Obviously the SNP is grossly under-represented on this site compared to their support in Scotland but could Unionist posters not simply hold up their hands and admit that this was a mistake? By all accounts the late MSP was respected across the houses from reading the thread. That ends the matter, you have to accept mistakes in politics if they occur much as you despise your opponents that you have made them against or you will just look pathetic and churlish to the majority.
From some of the comments on previous pages of the thread I could imagine what would be said had the late MSP not been a member of the SNP and the SNP had sent the correspondence.
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Post by marksenior on Jun 18, 2013 15:21:16 GMT
We must remember that in N Ireland elections , the dead often do vote !!!!
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Post by libfozzy on Jun 18, 2013 15:42:30 GMT
To be fair to the SNP, it's not like UKIP didn't know he was dead. It's indicative of abysmal data management and it is quite the gaffe.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 18, 2013 15:46:19 GMT
What, they were supposed to spot one name among more than 50,000?
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Post by irish observer on Jun 18, 2013 16:27:21 GMT
What, they were supposed to spot one name among more than 50,000? Being involved in election campaigns in my own country my party endeavours to take cognisance of deceased voters still on the register so as they will not be included in direct mailshots coming up to polling day. I recall at a recent election one of our ward managers did not insist that a late councillor of our party be eliminated as he was still on the register despite having died in the previous 3-4 months. This annoyed his family considerably upon receipt of the letter as you would expect. Naturally you apologise as you would do to a political opponent. But to do it to a political opponent or their family allows for negative publicity to fall on your party. In a by-election like Aberdeen Donside surely it is not beyond the realms of competence for a party to sweep the register for the name Adam to check this did not happen? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 16:42:39 GMT
What, they were supposed to spot one name among more than 50,000? Being involved in election campaigns in my own country my party endeavours to take cognisance of deceased voters still on the register so as they will not be included in direct mailshots coming up to polling day. I recall at a recent election one of our ward managers did not insist that a late councillor of our party be eliminated as he was still on the register despite having died in the previous 3-4 months. This annoyed his family considerably upon receipt of the letter as you would expect. Naturally you apologise as you would do to a political opponent. But to do it to a political opponent or their family allows for negative publicity to fall on your party. In a by-election like Aberdeen Donside surely it is not beyond the realms of competence for a party to sweep the register for the name Adam to check this did not happen? If I'm the person doing mailshots I generally will quickly whip out the names of any members of parliament/prominent activists of the opposition. |
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Post by independentukip on Jun 18, 2013 16:59:05 GMT
Would I be wrong in thinking this has provided the UKIP candidate with the most publicity he has received during the campaign?
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Post by libfozzy on Jun 18, 2013 17:21:30 GMT
What, they were supposed to spot one name among more than 50,000? No. I imagine that would be the first thing their data manager would do, tag the guy who'd caused the by-election as deceased. That's just common sense. |
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Post by johnr on Jun 18, 2013 18:17:40 GMT
It's unfortunate, but is a mistake that all parties (including the SNP) have done at one time or another. The SNP are milking this for all its worth as it ties into the only positive thing they've said during the campaign -The memory of Brian Adam.
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Post by iainbhx on Jun 18, 2013 18:49:16 GMT
What, they were supposed to spot one name among more than 50,000? No. I imagine that would be the first thing their data manager would do, tag the guy who'd caused the by-election as deceased. That's just common sense. You are assuming that they have a data manager. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 9:29:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2013 15:16:41 GMT
Any idea on how the polling is going today or is everybody too superstitious to say anything? |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jun 20, 2013 17:57:51 GMT
In a by-election like Aberdeen Donside surely it is not beyond the realms of competence for a party to sweep the register for the name Adam to check this did not happen? Not beyond the realm of competence, but given how many people in Donside have the surname Adam, that does strike me as a bewilderingly silly idea. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 20, 2013 18:56:39 GMT
Will we be able to watch the by-election programme in England (and Wales)?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2013 19:31:34 GMT
If you have SKY, you can watch it on BBC 2 Scotland from 11.30pm.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2013 20:07:17 GMT
Gugh, no way to watch that online as usual?
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