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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jan 18, 2024 14:56:48 GMT
And fundamentally there isn't anywhere in a lot of these constituencies where Labour would be doing well if it was in England or Wales instead.
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Post by afleitch on Jan 28, 2024 10:54:03 GMT
Might be some mistakes. Meh.  |
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Post by nyx on Jan 28, 2024 11:19:30 GMT
Nice map although I would definitely suggest removing the dotted lines denoting authority boundaries. At a first glance it's easy to read them as solid and think there's an extra constituency when there is none.
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Post by afleitch on Jan 28, 2024 12:31:01 GMT
Nice map although I would definitely suggest removing the dotted lines denoting authority boundaries. At a first glance it's easy to read them as solid and think there's an extra constituency when there is none. I don't disagree. The more I look at the new boundaries, the easier it is on the eye. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jan 28, 2024 12:57:48 GMT
Might be some mistakes. Meh. Notionals of You or The Bible (=Rallings&Thrasher)? |
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Post by afleitch on Jan 28, 2024 13:31:36 GMT
Railings and Thrasher. The Written Word.
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Post by johnloony on Jan 28, 2024 16:47:13 GMT
Might be some mistakes. Meh. There is nothing like enough distinction between the reds of the Labour Party and the reddish-oranges of the Lib Dems. I can't see which is which; I had to look at the map in the Times Guide just to remind myself of which are the Lib Dems. You need to do it again properly, with proper yellows for the Lib Dems. The knock-on effect is that the SNP and Plaid Cymru can't be yellow, so they can be in a sort-of wishy-washy green. In my younger days when I did lots of colouring-in maps, I used orange for the Liberal Party and yellow for the SDP. When they merged I used yellow of the Lib Dems. I always used pale green for Plaid Cymru, and therefore also (by extension) pale green for the SNP (that was before the SNP adopted yellow as its main colour) and the SDLP. I used dark green for Sinn Fein. I always told myself that if the Green Party ever got MPs, I would use the same pale green for the Green Party (it would only become a problem if the Green Party also won seats outside of England). |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 28, 2024 19:33:49 GMT
Might be some mistakes. Meh. There is nothing like enough distinction between the reds of the Labour Party and the reddish-oranges of the Lib Dems. I can't see which is which; I had to look at the map in the Times Guide just to remind myself of which are the Lib Dems. You need to do it again properly, with proper yellows for the Lib Dems. The knock-on effect is that the SNP and Plaid Cymru can't be yellow, so they can be in a sort-of wishy-washy green. In my younger days when I did lots of colouring-in maps, I used orange for the Liberal Party and yellow for the SDP. When they merged I used yellow of the Lib Dems. I always used pale green for Plaid Cymru, and therefore also (by extension) pale green for the SNP (that was before the SNP adopted yellow as its main colour) and the SDLP. I used dark green for Sinn Fein. I always told myself that if the Green Party ever got MPs, I would use the same pale green for the Green Party (it would only become a problem if the Green Party also won seats outside of England). Your second paragraph is correct (except I did not distinguish between Liberal and SDP for my maps - yellow for both). Your first is nonsense though. You don't need to 'see which is which'. There are only 8 Lib Dem seats on the map and everyone knows which ones they are. Do you need to check the Time Guide to see if Labour or the Lib Dems won St Albans, or which of the Oxford seats are Oxford East and Oxford West & Abingdon? |
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Post by greatkingrat on Jan 28, 2024 19:59:27 GMT
By that reasoning the map should just be various shades of grey if everyone knows who won which seat anyway.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 28, 2024 20:35:01 GMT
By that reasoning the map should just be various shades of grey if everyone knows who won which seat anyway. There is a difference between 650 and 8. It would be a problem if it was a map of the notional results in 1923 |
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Post by afleitch on Jan 28, 2024 20:53:46 GMT
Short answer?
Courteously.
No.
The Lib Dems are, at present, a minor party.
Yellow is the colour of the SNP. Plaid also use yellow in their daffodil logo. It's also used to signify the Speaker and the Green as a shorthand because there is only one of each.
Orange doesn't stand out not because it's too close to the red, but because there aren't enough Lib Dem seats, other than ultra-safe boltholes, to make it stand out.
On maps where I've used this scheme, with lots of Lib Dem representation, it shows quite clear.
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Post by johnloony on Jan 28, 2024 21:28:33 GMT
Orange doesn't stand out not because it's too close to the red, but because there aren't enough Lib Dem seats, other than ultra-safe boltholes, to make it stand out. On maps where I've used this scheme, with lots of Lib Dem representation, it shows quite clear. Nonsense. The orange is such a reddish orange that I literally can’t see which is which. Why not just do it properly, with distinctly different colours, so that we can see? It doesn’t matter whether it’s yellow or green or whatever, but when the Labour Party is red then the Lib Dems need to be something which is further away than the reddest part of the red end of the very red part of the reddish bit of orangey-red. Plaid Cymru was green (not yellow) for decades, and the SNP was sort-of bluey-purple for decades before they suddenly became yellow, so it’s not unreasonable for the SNP and PC to be (for example) green if the Lib Dems are a proper yellow. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Feb 2, 2024 21:39:54 GMT
I forgot, that with Mr.Baxter we have a second try on Northern Ireland:   |
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Post by YL on Feb 3, 2024 7:47:39 GMT
Georg Ebner I think you have some mistakes in the Rallings & Thrasher column for some Scottish seats: I'm sure they don't have the Tories ahead in Dundee Central! Also what are the "Priyan" figures? I should add a link to the first post.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Feb 4, 2024 3:03:48 GMT
Georg Ebner I think you have some mistakes in the Rallings & Thrasher column for some Scottish seats: I'm sure they don't have the Tories ahead in Dundee Central! Also what are the "Priyan" figures? I should add a link to the first post. That's Twitter=X-acCount "@pkng826". |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Feb 4, 2024 3:28:49 GMT
Georg Ebner I think you have some mistakes in the Rallings & Thrasher column for some Scottish seats: I'm sure they don't have the Tories ahead in Dundee Central! Also what are the "Priyan" figures? I should add a link to the first post. Yes, the old SNP-fortress Dundee is SNP, of course. Several mistakes happened in Scotland - i am sorry. In fact Baxter and Rallings&Thrasher agree on all winners there. Here is the corrected version:    |
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Post by YL on Feb 4, 2024 8:21:06 GMT
Georg Ebner I think you have some mistakes in the Rallings & Thrasher column for some Scottish seats: I'm sure they don't have the Tories ahead in Dundee Central! Also what are the "Priyan" figures? I should add a link to the first post. That's Twitter=X-acCount "@pkng826". Thanks; I've added a link to the first post. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Feb 4, 2024 17:03:17 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 4, 2024 19:02:55 GMT
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