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Post by batman on Aug 25, 2023 17:31:51 GMT
I think David Marquand re-joined Labour. Does Paul Marsden of Shrewsbury count? Lab to LibDem back to Lab? Or Brian Sedgemore Lab to LibDem? although Paul Marsden announced a re-conversion to Labour in 2005, AFAIK he never formally rejoined the Labour Party and was not given back the Labour Whip for the final days of that parliament. Sedgemore definitely joined the Lib Dems, as has Bob Marshall-Andrews. |
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Post by batman on Aug 25, 2023 17:33:44 GMT
returning to Keith Raffan, didn't he subsequently join the Labour Party?
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Post by stb12 on Aug 25, 2023 17:43:06 GMT
Tom Harris to the Conservatives after he lost in 2015 I don't think he's actually joined the conservatives has he? Yes far as I know he just endorsed them to stop Corbyn |
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Post by aargauer on Aug 25, 2023 17:44:21 GMT
Mohammad Sarwar. Labour to Pakistan Muslim League(N) There is nothing worse than immigrants who are right wing at home and left wing in their new residence. It's quite common, too. Turks im looking at you. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Aug 25, 2023 17:53:07 GMT
Mohammad Sarwar. Labour to Pakistan Muslim League(N) He was always a PML(N) man. Of course he was then one of the PML bigwigs who defected to the PTI. He is now a member of the PML(Q). People who are literate in Pakistani politics will understand the implications. |
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Post by johnloony on Aug 25, 2023 18:37:39 GMT
To the best of my knowledge Chuka Umunna has not rejoined the Labour Party. Had he applied to do so, and been rejected, I feel sure we would have heard about it. I personally am not in a hurry to see him return. Chuka Umunna is in fact now a Met Police sergeant in Islington, as can be seen from 14 minutes onward in this video. His mannerisms are still the same as when he was an MP too. No he isn’t. |
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Post by stb12 on Aug 25, 2023 21:20:55 GMT
Mohammad Sarwar. Labour to Pakistan Muslim League(N) There is nothing worse than immigrants who are right wing at home and left wing in their new residence. It's quite common, too. Turks im looking at you. Although can that not just be because the political spectrums can be very different in different countries? |
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Post by Khunanup on Aug 26, 2023 17:13:45 GMT
There is nothing worse than immigrants who are right wing at home and left wing in their new residence. It's quite common, too. Turks im looking at you. Although can that not just be because the political spectrums can be very different in different countries? I know that in some places, such as Bangladesh, you support a particular party because that's where your family's been aligned at least since independence. The ideology of such party is therefore secondary to many of their most secure supporters. |
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Post by johnhemming on Aug 26, 2023 18:32:47 GMT
Lots of countries have politics that is primarily kinship based
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Post by neilm on Aug 26, 2023 19:30:31 GMT
yes. He said that "Maggie Thatcher is closer to my kind of socialism than Jim Callaghan". What Margaret Thatcher made of this is not known. I get the impression that in the late 1970s and 1980s a Lord George-Brown endorsement was something parties really, really, really wanted... ...for their opponents. Was it Healey who said something like "Moscow is hoping for a Labour victory" in 1983? |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 26, 2023 20:59:14 GMT
I get the impression that in the late 1970s and 1980s a Lord George-Brown endorsement was something parties really, really, really wanted... ...for their opponents. Was it Healey who said something like "Moscow is hoping for a Labour victory" in 1983? 'Praying'. In 1987 |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Aug 28, 2023 11:39:58 GMT
Although can that not just be because the political spectrums can be very different in different countries? I know that in some places, such as Bangladesh, you support a particular party because that's where your family's been aligned at least since independence. The ideology of such party is therefore secondary to many of their most secure supporters. In such system "ideology" isn't that useful a term. |
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Post by ilerda on Aug 28, 2023 12:10:54 GMT
It’s of course something that happened very close to home in 20th century Irish politics, and still continues to some extent to this day.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 28, 2023 17:43:55 GMT
A particularly curious one was Matthias Cormann, elected to the town council of Raeren in Eastern Belgium for the Germanophone Christian Social Party, and then left politics.
Before reappearing several years later as the Australian Liberal Party Minister of Finance.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Aug 28, 2023 19:13:11 GMT
A particularly curious one was Matthias Cormann, elected to the town council of Raeren in Eastern Belgium for the Germanophone Christian Social Party, and then left politics. Before reappearing several years later as the Australian Liberal Party Minister of Finance. This is the sort of political fact that I love. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 28, 2023 19:21:06 GMT
A particularly curious one was Matthias Cormann, elected to the town council of Raeren in Eastern Belgium for the Germanophone Christian Social Party, and then left politics. Before reappearing several years later as the Australian Liberal Party Minister of Finance. This is the sort of political fact that I love. Bizarre isn't it. And following on from this - Oskar Lafontaine managed to be the candidate for German chancellor for two different parties either side of a brief spell in the wilderness. |
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Post by iainbhx on Aug 28, 2023 21:06:42 GMT
A particularly curious one was Matthias Cormann, elected to the town council of Raeren in Eastern Belgium for the Germanophone Christian Social Party, and then left politics. Before reappearing several years later as the Australian Liberal Party Minister of Finance. I imagine back then getting elected was merely a matter of being on the CSL list for an odd place even by the standards of the Eastern Cantons (literally half the people in Raeren are German citizens, not Belgians). And he is now the Secretary-General of the OECD. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 28, 2023 21:38:24 GMT
A particularly curious one was Matthias Cormann, elected to the town council of Raeren in Eastern Belgium for the Germanophone Christian Social Party, and then left politics. Before reappearing several years later as the Australian Liberal Party Minister of Finance. I imagine back then getting elected was merely a matter of being on the CSL list for an odd place even by the standards of the Eastern Cantons (literally half the people in Raeren are German citizens, not Belgians). And he is now the Secretary-General of the OECD. The eastern cantons are pretty shabbily treated by the rest of Wallonia. But then again, it's a very strange patch. Eupen is a curious place. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 28, 2023 23:00:01 GMT
There's the very strange case of Air Vice-Marshall Don Bennett, founder of the famed Pathfinder Force for the RAF in 1942, who was elected as Liberal MP for Middlesbrough West just days after VE Day, but never spoke, voted in a division (there were none), or put down a written question before Parliament was dissolved. He was defeated for re-election. After two failed attempts as a Liberal candidate he joined the radical right 'National Fellowship' founded by fellow ex-Liberal Edward Martell and then progressed even further right, joining the National Independence Party which had a partnership with the National Front, and then campaigning against EC membership independently.
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 28, 2023 23:17:52 GMT
There's the very strange case of Air Vice-Marshall Don Bennett, founder of the famed Pathfinder Force for the RAF in 1942, who was elected as Liberal MP for Middlesbrough West just days after VE Day, but never spoke, voted in a division (there were none), or put down a written question before Parliament was dissolved. He was defeated for re-election. After two failed attempts as a Liberal candidate he joined the radical right 'National Fellowship' founded by fellow ex-Liberal Edward Martell and then progressed even further right, joining the National Independence Party which had a partnership with the National Front, and then campaigning against EC membership independently. He was beaten by Guy Gibson for the Conservative nomination at Macclesfield in early 1944.
Gibson was only the candidate for six months before he resigned, and was killed a month after that , when his Mosquito crashed in Holland.
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