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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 31, 2023 12:10:16 GMT
The name ‘ Hatfield Villages’ might imply that this is a rural ward. Certainly, the parish of Hatfield extends well beyond the built-up area of the town, including large tracts of rural territory to the East, North and South. There are villages here – such as the very picturesque Lemsford which is a conservation area. Just North of Lemsford lies Brocket Hall in its vast grounds – like Hatfield House the home to Victorian Prime Ministers, in this case the Whigs Lords Melbourne and Palmerston. Beyond this area to the West is rolling wooded countryside dotted with hamlets like Cromer Hyde and Coopers Green. Stanborough is interwar ribbon development along the Great North Road – mostly detached and semi-detached housing – like Lemsford it is functionally (and postally) part of Welwyn Garden City which is just the other side of the A1. Like any other such rural areas in this borough, this is a very pleasant and affluent area and is strongly Conservative. However, it accounts for not much more than 500 votes. Further south and into Hatfield ‘proper’ is Hatfield Garden Village. This is another inter-war development of mostly semi-detached houses – owner occupied but not especially salubrious. Up to the turn of the century, the area south of here was occupied by the vast BAE (formerly de Havilland) aircraft site – all that now remains of this is the art deco buildings lining the old A1 – the admin blocks which are now Hatfield Police Station and the gatehouse which is a KFC. Up until 2008 these villages – Lemsford, Hatfield Garden et al – were linked with Birchwood on the other side of the A1 in a Hatfield North ward in which Birchwood was dominant and this was therefore a safe Labour ward until the end of the 20th century. There then began massive redevelopment of the aircraft site with a new campus of the University of Hertfordshire which opened in 2003, the development of a business park which houses the corporate headquarters for several large companies such as EE, Ocado and Computacentre, and substantial developments of new, mostly private housing. This area is known as ‘Salisbury Village’ – another of the villages referenced in the ward name, but not a village in any real sense. The effect of this was of course to dramatically increase the electorate of Hatfield North and to swing it decisively to the Conservatives. The Tories won Hatfield North first, very narrowly in 2002 and by 2006/7 were winning by 2 to 1 over Labour. The growth of Salisbury Village was such that the ward boundary changes which took effect in 2008 removed Birchwood and consigned the new ward of Hatfield Villages to the area west of the old A1. In the first election for Hatfield Villages the Conservatives won 63% of the vote against 24% for Labour. But it must be remembered that 2008 was an exceptionally good year for the Conservatives, exceptionally poor for Labour and the Conservatives have never scored as highly as that since then. It might also be remembered that 2008 was the year of the great financial crash and this has had some effects on the area which started out mostly as owner-occupied housing. There must have been many repossessions and a good deal of the new housing here has ended up in the private rented sector. The boundary changes which took effect in 2016 simply added the community of Ellenbrook, between St Albans Road and the A1. This is another older inter-war development – mostly affluent consisting of detached and semi-detached houses. There is a small council estate at Nast Hyde against which there are some serious mansions along Wilkins Green Lane. Ellenbrook should have boosted the Conservative position further in this ward and probably did (we know how Ellenbrook votes because the area forms its own parish ward which was still held quite comfortably in 2023). And yet while Labour barely ever won more than 30% of the vote in Villages before 2016 they have barely ever won less than 35% since then and they have won in 3 out of 7 contests. Obviously, some of this is to do with the shifting support for the parties nationally, certainly in the last couple of years, but there must be more going on here. Basically, there has been huge demographic change in Salisbury Village, which holds a large majority of the population. As mentioned, many of what started as owner-occupied, possibly family homes have become privately rented, HMOs. There is a huge student population here (including of course those living on campus) but the nature of that population has itself changed over the years. There used to be many more Chinese students here, none of whom of course would be qualified to vote. Now they are more likely to be from India or Nigeria, some of whom would be (but probably mostly don’t) and an increased number of Black and Asian UK born students (some of whom do). And the ethnic minority population is not exclusively student by any means. Some will be ancillary workers at the university – cleaners, caterers etc – and others will have no connection to the university at all. Like other parts of Hatfield this has become a dumping ground for London boroughs seeking cheaper rents to house their poorer residents. There is also a substantial ‘White other’ population here, mostly East European. To visit Aldi in the district centre is to play ‘spot the white man’ and when you do spot him, he will be Polish. That ‘district centre’ is surrounded by dense developments of flats – marketed as ‘luxury’ but in reality a mixture of shared ownership, private and socially rented. One of the output areas covering the area is only 18% White British – the same proportion as those who are Black African. Taken overall, the White British population is now a minority in Salisbury Village, the total White population is barely over 50% (in contrast the output area covering Lemsford is 92% white.) It is not surprising therefore that Labour have become competitive in this ward and following what seemed like a fluke by-election win in 2017 (on the same day as the general election when student turnout would have been high) they have been able to win the ward the last two years – fairly narrowly in 2022 and then easily in 2023 when the Conservatives performed dismally and dropped below 30% - a swing of 26% since 2008. This is a ward where general election turnout would hinder rather than help the Conservatives and it seems hugely likely that Labour will take the final seat here next May to complete the transformation of the ward from safe Conservative to marginal to safe(?) Labour. Hatfield Villages | 2021 | | | White | 60.5% | Asian | 17.7% | Black | 13.5% | Mixed | 5.1% | Other | 3.1% | | | Christian | 43.8% | No religion | 30.2% | Muslim | 5.7% | Hindu | 7.2% | Jewish | 1.0% | | | Owner Occupied | 50.4% | Social rented | 18.4% | Private Rented | 31.2% | | | No cars | 19.1% | 2 or more cars | 42.1% | | | Whole house or bungalow | 68.8% | Flat, maisonette or apartment | 31.1% | | | Professional/Managerial | 26.2% | Routine/Semi Routine | 14.9% | | | No qualifications | 9.5% | Graduates | 38.4% | | | Students | 35.5% |
| Con | Lab | LD | Grn | Ref | | | | | | | | | 2023 | 29.6% | 44.0% | 18.0% | 5.4% | 3.0% | | 2022 | 40.9% | 46.2% | 12.9% | | | | 2021 | 45.6% | 34.4% | 11.2% | 8.8% | | | 2019 | 45.3% | 39.7% | 15.1% | | | | 2018 | 45.2% | 36.4% | 13.9% | 4.5% | | 2017 | 39.9% | 40.1% | 20.0% | | | 2016 | 49.9% | 37.9% | 12.2% | | | |
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Post by bjornhattan on Aug 31, 2023 12:52:53 GMT
Taken overall, the White British population is now a minority in Salisbury Village, the total White population is barely over 50% (in contrast the output area covering Lemsford is 92% white.) This is also (just about) true of the ward as a whole - 5,091 residents out of 10,620 identified as White British at the census. Annoyingly the "custom area profile" tool that the census produces - which I believe you've used here - doesn't break down the categories further, so this isn't obvious and you do have to download the ward level data to find this. Similar problems also exist for some of the other variables including country of birth (not broken down beyond UK or non-UK) and type of accommodation (not broken down between detached, semi detached, and terraced housing; nor between different types of flat such as purpose built vs conversion). In some cases these subcategories can have very different political and demographic behaviour which does limit the usefulness of an otherwise quite handy tool.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 31, 2023 13:03:08 GMT
Yes I've used the custom area profile tool which is great for analysing smaller areas but have been unable to find the ward level data. Perhaps you could help me with some relevant links? I did DM you a while ago about this
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Post by iang on Aug 31, 2023 13:20:39 GMT
hope you don't mind me saying this Pete but this is really high-quality & detailed analysis. Agreed! I also learn a lot about Hatfield, and presumably in due course will do so about Welwyn. But if I gave this level of detail for all 69 Birmingham wards, no-one would read it. I would!
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 31, 2023 14:08:12 GMT
Agreed! I also learn a lot about Hatfield, and presumably in due course will do so about Welwyn. But if I gave this level of detail for all 69 Birmingham wards, no-one would read it. I would! I would and so would my wife!
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 31, 2023 14:12:20 GMT
I would and so would my wife! You're lucky to have a wife who's that interested in psephology. Where did you find her?
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 31, 2023 14:23:48 GMT
I would and so would my wife! You're lucky to have a wife who's that interested in psephology. Where did you find her? Monty Python's Life of Brian.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 31, 2023 14:26:04 GMT
You're lucky to have a wife who's that interested in psephology. Where did you find her? Monty Python's Life of Brian. I know..
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 31, 2023 14:27:54 GMT
Monty Python's Life of Brian. I know.. Anyway just trying to re-iterate that I am interested in that level of detail.
And now for a cup of tea and some jaguars eyeballs.
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Post by mattb on Aug 31, 2023 17:09:51 GMT
I think I have also copied your tendency to use the word 'miserable' to describe certain council estates, as an occassional variation on my more usual 'grim' or 'bleak' I thought 'shithole' was your usual preferred description? 😞
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 31, 2023 17:43:30 GMT
I think I have also copied your tendency to use the word 'miserable' to describe certain council estates, as an occassional variation on my more usual 'grim' or 'bleak' I thought 'shithole' was your usual preferred description? 😞 I reserve that for Jacketts Field
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Post by mattb on Aug 31, 2023 19:06:55 GMT
I thought 'shithole' was your usual preferred description? 😞 I reserve that for Jacketts Field You can't have visited recently! 👍
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Post by batman on Aug 31, 2023 20:38:21 GMT
The name ‘ Hatfield Villages’ might imply that this is a rural ward. Certainly, the parish of Hatfield extends well beyond the built-up area of the town, including large tracts of rural territory to the East, North and South. There are villages here – such as the very picturesque Lemsford which is a conservation area. Just North of Lemsford lies Brocket Hall in its vast grounds – like Hatfield House the home to Victorian Prime Ministers, in this case the Whigs Lords Melbourne and Palmerston. Beyond this area to the West is rolling wooded countryside dotted with hamlets like Cromer Hyde and Coopers Green. Stanborough is interwar ribbon development along the Great North Road – mostly detached and semi-detached housing – like Lemsford it is functionally (and postally) part of Welwyn Garden City which is just the other side of the A1. Like any other such rural areas in this borough, this is a very pleasant and affluent area and is strongly Conservative. However, it accounts for not much more than 500 votes. Further south and into Hatfield ‘proper’ is Hatfield Garden Village. This is another inter-war development of mostly semi-detached houses – owner occupied but not especially salubrious. Up to the turn of the century, the area south of here was occupied by the vast BAE (formerly de Havilland) aircraft site – all that now remains of this is the art deco buildings lining the old A1 – the admin blocks which are now Hatfield Police Station and the gatehouse which is a KFC. Up until 2008 these villages – Lemsford, Hatfield Garden et al – were linked with Birchwood on the other side of the A1 in a Hatfield North ward in which Birchwood was dominant and this was therefore a safe Labour ward until the end of the 20th century. There then began massive redevelopment of the aircraft site with a new campus of the University of Hertfordshire which opened in 2003, the development of a business park which houses the corporate headquarters for several large companies such as EE, Ocado and Computacentre, and substantial developments of new, mostly private housing. This area is known as ‘Salisbury Village’ – another of the villages referenced in the ward name, but not a village in any real sense. The effect of this was of course to dramatically increase the electorate of Hatfield North and to swing it decisively to the Conservatives. The Tories won Hatfield North first, very narrowly in 2002 and by 2006/7 were winning by 2 to 1 over Labour. The growth of Salisbury Village was such that the ward boundary changes which took effect in 2008 removed Birchwood and consigned the new ward of Hatfield Villages to the area west of the old A1. In the first election for Hatfield Villages the Conservatives won 63% of the vote against 24% for Labour. But it must be remembered that 2008 was an exceptionally good year for the Conservatives, exceptionally poor for Labour and the Conservatives have never scored as highly as that since then. It might also be remembered that 2008 was the year of the great financial crash and this has had some effects on the area which started out mostly as owner-occupied housing. There must have been many repossessions and a good deal of the new housing here has ended up in the private rented sector. The boundary changes which took effect in 2016 simply added the community of Ellenbrook, between St Albans Road and the A1. This is another older inter-war development – mostly affluent consisting of detached and semi-detached houses. There is a small council estate at Nast Hyde against which there are some serious mansions along Wilkins Green Lane. Ellenbrook should have boosted the Conservative position further in this ward and probably did (we know how Ellenbrook votes because the area forms its own parish ward which was still held quite comfortably in 2023). And yet while Labour barely ever won more than 30% of the vote in Villages before 2016 they have barely ever won less than 35% since then and they have won in 3 out of 7 contests. Obviously, some of this is to do with the shifting support for the parties nationally, certainly in the last couple of years, but there must be more going on here. Basically, there has been huge demographic change in Salisbury Village, which holds a large majority of the population. As mentioned, many of what started as owner-occupied, possibly family homes have become privately rented, HMOs. There is a huge student population here (including of course those living on campus) but the nature of that population has itself changed over the years. There used to be many more Chinese students here, none of whom of course would be qualified to vote. Now they are more likely to be from India or Nigeria, some of whom would be (but probably mostly don’t) and an increased number of Black and Asian UK born students (some of whom do). And the ethnic minority population is not exclusively student by any means. Some will be ancillary workers at the university – cleaners, caterers etc – and others will have no connection to the university at all. Like other parts of Hatfield this has become a dumping ground for London boroughs seeking cheaper rents to house their poorer residents. There is also a substantial ‘White other’ population here, mostly East European. To visit Aldi in the district centre is to play ‘spot the white man’ and when you do spot him, he will be Polish. That ‘district centre’ is surrounded by dense developments of flats – marketed as ‘luxury’ but in reality a mixture of shared ownership, private and socially rented. One of the output areas covering the area is only 18% White British – the same proportion as those who are Black African. Taken overall, the White British population is now a minority in Salisbury Village, the total White population is barely over 50% (in contrast the output area covering Lemsford is 92% white.) It is not surprising therefore that Labour have become competitive in this ward and following what seemed like a fluke by-election win in 2017 (on the same day as the general election when student turnout would have been high) they have been able to win the ward the last two years – fairly narrowly in 2022 and then easily in 2023 when the Conservatives performed dismally and dropped below 30% - a swing of 26% since 2008. This is a ward where general election turnout would hinder rather than help the Conservatives and it seems hugely likely that Labour will take the final seat here next May to complete the transformation of the ward from safe Conservative to marginal to safe(?) Labour. Hatfield Villages | 2021 | | | White | 60.5% | Asian | 17.7% | Black | 13.5% | Mixed | 5.1% | Other | 3.1% | | | Christian | 43.8% | No religion | 30.2% | Muslim | 5.7% | Hindu | 7.2% | Jewish | 1.0% | | | Owner Occupied | 50.4% | Social rented | 18.4% | Private Rented | 31.2% | | | No cars | 19.1% | 2 or more cars | 42.1% | | | Whole house or bungalow | 68.8% | Flat, maisonette or apartment | 31.1% | | | Professional/Managerial | 26.2% | Routine/Semi Routine | 14.9% | | | No qualifications | 9.5% | Graduates | 38.4% | | | Students | 35.5% |
| Con | Lab | LD | Grn | Ref | | | | | | | | | 2023 | 29.6% | 44.0% | 18.0% | 5.4% | 3.0% | | 2022 | 40.9% | 46.2% | 12.9% | | | | 2021 | 45.6% | 34.4% | 11.2% | 8.8% | | | 2019 | 45.3% | 39.7% | 15.1% | | | | 2018 | 45.2% | 36.4% | 13.9% | 4.5% | | 2017 | 39.9% | 40.1% | 20.0% | | | 2016 | 49.9% | 37.9% | 12.2% | | | |
see, that is fascinating reading.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 4, 2023 20:41:09 GMT
Despite the frequent boundary reviews in this borough (there have been four since 1990) the boundaries of the wards in Welwyn Garden City have not changed greatly since the first of those (which took effect in 1991). The boundaries of Sherrards ward in NW Welwyn Garden City have barely changed at all from those in use by the old UDC. The southern boundary lies just North of the town centre, the eastern boundary is the railway, and the northern and western boundaries are those of the town (that is to say the boundary with Welwyn and Ayot St Peter parishes – Welwyn Garden City itself is unparished) Sherrards is in many ways a microcosm of the town of Welwyn Garden City, with a combination of all the housing types which characterise the town. There is a substantial area of inter-war housing – part of the original garden city – and an even more substantial area of post-war housing with a substantial council estate element including both flats and houses. There is also some post-New Town development. The most upmarket part of the ward is also the oldest. This is Sherrardspark just north of the town centre, part of the original garden city and consisting of fine mostly detached houses in leafy streets. This is perhaps the wealthiest area in the town and in the west gives way to attractive woodland – Sherrardspark Woods. East of Digswell Road is slightly more modest housing of this vintage (but still pleasant) and including a small amount of council housing of the pleasant ‘cottage estate’ variety. Further North around Knightsfield is predominantly council built post-war housing – part of the New Town development. There are quite a few blocks of flats, but mostly houses. Right to buy has been popular here and these are respectable and well-kempt estates not bleak or grim or miserable – perhaps a bit dull. As far as Welwyn Garden City goes, this is still the right side of the tracks. Further North still towards Digswell Park there is more modern housing – more upmarket again. For a couple of decades, Sherrards was unique in Welwyn Garden City as a marginal ward that switched hands frequently between Conservatives and Labour (in that sense also it was a microcosm of the town, or a bellwether at least) as all the wards in the East of the town were solid for Labour at that time. In the 20 elections between 1973 and 2000 inclusive, the Conservatives won 10 times and Labour won 10 times. On no fewer that seven occasions the winning margin was lower than 5%. In 1999 when the borough had all out elections on new ward boundaries (they were insignificant here), the Conservatives and Labour were neck and neck with the Tories taking the first and third seat and Labour the second. Labour gained a seat in 2000 (by 17 votes) but then lost their existing seat in 2002. In 2004 they lost their last seat and thereafter their vote went into a sharp decline which they did not recover from even after going into opposition nationally. The 37% they secured while losing their seat in 2004 was their lowest share since 1982 but since then they have not surpassed the 33% they won in 2012. It had seemed to have become a safe Conservative ward. Then in 2018 – a disastrous election for the Conservatives generally - the Lib Dems came apparently from nowhere to gain a seat. They had not previously won better than 20% here since the 1980s and the last time the seat they gained had been fought, in 2014, they won 6% and were in fifth place behind the Greens and UKIP. This wasn’t entirely out of nowhere though. The wealthy southern part of the ward is part of the Haldens county council division and that itself has been the scene of a 'shock' Lib Dem gain in 2017. It was not clear where their vote had come from then – 2018 gave some clues. They repeated the trick by a more comfortable margin in 2019 and seemed set to take all the seats in the ward but fell at the last hurdle in the ‘Covid’ election of 2021 as the Conservatives held on, as in so many other wards here. In the two subsequent elections the Lib Dems held their seats much more comfortable, winning over 50% on each occasion and in May 2023 the Conservatives dropped into a wretched third place behind Labour. Some delayed gratification for the Lib Dems here looks rather inevitable. Sherrards | 2021 | | | White | 87.6% | Asian | 4.7% | Black | 2.2% | Mixed | 4.6% | Other | 1.0% | | | Christian | 44.6% | No religion | 44.2% | Muslim | 1.1% | Hindu | 1.3% | Jewish | 0.7% | | | Owner Occupied | 68.9% | Social rented | 22.4% | Private Rented | 8.7% | | | No cars | 14.2% | 2 or more cars | 40.0% | | | Whole house or bungalow | 89.1% | Flat, maisonette or apartment | 10.8% | | | Professional/Managerial | 44.8% | Routine/Semi Routine | 16.5% | | | No qualifications | 12.1% | Graduates | 43.0% | | | Students | 6.2% |
| Con | Lab | LD | Grn | Ref | Oth | | | | | | | | 2023 | 17.5% | 21.6% | 53.0% | 4.3% | 3.6% | | 2022 | 24.3% | 14.3% | 54.4% | 4.9% | | 2.0% | 2021 | 37.5% | 23.3% | 28.1% | 11.1% | | | 2019 | 30.1% | 12.4% | 46.5% | 5.5% | | 5.6% | 2018 | 33.3% | 24.0% | 38.7% | | | 4.4% | 2016 | 38.2% | 27.1% | 13.1% | 21.6% | | |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 8, 2023 14:22:36 GMT
Handside is one of the two original wards from the old Welwyn Garden City urban district and as that implies, it contains areas largely developed in the 1920s. This is in fact the heart of the original garden city, containing the town centre and residential areas to the South and West. This includes the Parkway – am impressive tree lined boulevard which forms the central spine of the town, with its neo-Georgian town centre to the east and with expensive housing on either side. In the North is the Campus containing the administrative headquarters of the borough. This central area of the town is impressively laid out with gardens and fountains – it is a far-cry from Hatfield town centre. The first housing was built on Handside Lane and mostly was council housing. Much of it is still there and still rented from the local council but these are attractive, well-built homes with large gardens. It was not uncommon for middle class families to rent from the council (or the corporations preceding it) here – a phenomenon which is unusual in England but was common in Scotland. There is some newer, less attractive council housing between the Parkway and Handside Lane and more council housing of mixed vintage in the southern part of the ward around Stanborough Park. There are inter-war council flats in Stanborough Green. Certainly, the proportion of housing rented from the local council is above the national average but that is an inevitable consequence of the way this town developed and is far from the defining characteristic of this ward. There is far more owner-occupied housing including on Handside Lane and many are detached and expensive, especially in the West of the ward around Valley Road and High Oaks Lane as well as close to the town centre. In some of the streets here it would be easy to believe one were in Hampstead Garden Suburb. As originally designed (and as is still the case), Welwyn Garden City was divided on classic lines with the wealthier middle-class neighbourhoods to the West of the railway line and the poorer and industrial neighbourhoods to the East. So here is the classic west end. This ward has the highest proportion of professional and managerial workers and the highest proportion of graduates in the borough – notably higher on the latter measure than Brookmans Park & Little Heath or Northaw & Cuffley. The population are more likely to be doctors and lawyers than the stockbrokers and captains of industry who largely occupy those wards. As such this has never been as solidly a Conservative ward as those although this is the only ward in Welwyn Garden City which Labour have never won. Rather, predictably given the above, this is the ward with the longest and most consistent history of Lib Dem strength. The then Alliance first developed a strong vote in the ward as far back as 1982 and have maintained it ever since. Until recently however, actual Lib Dem victories were rare and always narrow and they have never held all the seats in the ward. Their first victory came in 1986 and they repeated the trick the following year but then had to wait until 2004 for their next victory which was followed by another narrow gain in 2006. Their majority was 20 in 1987, 50 in 2004 and 24 in 2006. They managed to cling on to one of these seats in the all-out elections of 2008 and then successfully defended it (with a majority of 12) in 2010. On this occasion Handside (as often as not the only Conservative ward in WGC) was the only ward in the town not to elect a Conservative as that party enjoyed a landslide locally. That final seat was lost in 2014 but another set of all-out elections in 2016 saw the return of another Lib Dem councillor (by 5 votes). Subsequently they defended that seat in a by-election in 2017 and the main elections in 2018 where they won easily and in 2019, they took another seat, outpolling the Conservatives by more than two to one. It seems credible that this latest swing may be connected to Brexit as this is likely to have been one of the most strongly Remain supporting wards in this borough. As in most other wards, the Conservatives had a stay of execution as they held on in 2021 against the odds and expectations. The following two years saw the Lib Dems again win by two to one and mopping up the final seat here looks likely to be routine. It remains to be seen if this ward will return to being marginal (let alone the safe Conservative ward it mostly was for decades) or if this will now transition into a persistently safe Lib Dem ward.. Handside | 2021 | | | White | 87.1% | Asian | 5.7% | Black | 2.2% | Mixed | 3.7% | Other | 1.3% | | | Christian | 48.2% | No religion | 40.6% | Muslim | 1.5% | Hindu | 1.8% | Jewish | 0.6% | | | Owner Occupied | 64.9% | Social rented | 22.9% | Private Rented | 12.2% | | | No cars | 22.4% | 2 or more cars | 34.5% | | | Whole house or bungalow | 71.4% | Flat, maisonette or apartment | 28.6% | | | Professional/Managerial | 48.8% | Routine/Semi Routine | 14.3% | | | No qualifications | 12.2% | Graduates | 47.6% | | | Students | 5.4% |
| Con | Lab | LD | Grn | Oth | | | | | | | | | 2023 | 27.7% | 10.1% | 56.0% | 6.1% | | | 2022 | 25.5% | 11.0% | 51.3% | 9.1% | 3.0% | 2021 | 46.3% | 11.1% | 35.3% | 7.3% | | | 2019 | 26.3% | 8.0% | 58.7% | 7.0% | | | 2018 | 33.4% | 10.5% | 56.1% | | | | 2017 | 32.8% | 12.3% | 52.4% | 2.4% | | | 2016 | 42.1% | 15.8% | 35.8% | 6.3% | | |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 8, 2023 14:27:53 GMT
Incidentally, the census figures I have given are all obtained by using the custom profile builder www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/customprofiles/draw/I have discovered (or rather remembered that all these figures are available on Kevin Larkins site here boundaryassistant.org/census/index.html?v=2.0 - there will be some discrepancies as several output areas cross ward boundaries so my figures are less accurate. He also provides a more detailed breakdown of housing types (as between deatched, terraced housing and so on). Therefore I will amend the census stat results in due course so they match the (correct) figures on Kevin's site
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 8, 2023 14:31:03 GMT
I wasn't a waste of my time doing that though. As well as downloading figures for several other variables which are not included on Kevin's site (and which I haven't included here), it enabled me also to examine individual areas within each ward, allowing me to contrast the demographics between (for example) Welham Green and 'Hatfield South'
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Post by bjornhattan on Sept 8, 2023 14:31:11 GMT
The thing that strikes me about Handside ward (having a virtual drive around Handside Lane and thereabouts on Google Street View) is how nice the windows are. It may be a trivial observation, but it seems like the little details like that have been done really nicely which no doubt contributes to the social housing feeling much more pleasant than usual.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Sept 10, 2023 20:55:28 GMT
The thing that strikes me about Handside ward (having a virtual drive around Handside Lane and thereabouts on Google Street View) is how nice the windows are. It may be a trivial observation, but it seems like the little details like that have been done really nicely which no doubt contributes to the social housing feeling much more pleasant than usual. God forgive me, but being brought up in council housing from the 1930s, where all of our windows were nice, and how many post-war council estates were, of course, well-maintained, your post makes me want to come round and bitch-slap you right now.
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 10, 2023 21:47:33 GMT
The thing that strikes me about Handside ward (having a virtual drive around Handside Lane and thereabouts on Google Street View) is how nice the windows are. It may be a trivial observation, but it seems like the little details like that have been done really nicely which no doubt contributes to the social housing feeling much more pleasant than usual. God forgive me, but being brought up in council housing from the 1930s, where all of our windows were nice, and how many post-war council estates were, of course, well-maintained, your post makes me want to come round and bitch-slap you right now. I will check it out to be sure but I think there's a line in Ibsen's "Enemy of the People" from one of the crowd at the public meeting, along the lines of "What's he saying about my windows?"
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