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Post by BossMan on Aug 9, 2023 17:56:54 GMT
Burnley
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Post by carolus on Dec 12, 2023 22:08:29 GMT
Current councils: 11 Burnley Independen Group, 11 Lab, 7 Con, 7 Green, 7 LD, 2 Ind Up in 2024: 4 BIG, 3 Con, 3 Green, 2 Lab, 2 LD, 1 Ind
The BIG in Bank Hall (2024, 2026, 2027), Brunshaw (2026), Daneshouse with Stoneyholme (2024, 2026, 2027), Lanehead (2024), Queensgate (2024, 2026, 2027) were elected as Labour. The Ind in Gannow (2024, 2026) were elected as BPIP. The Lab in Gannow (2027) was elected as BPIP.
Byelection: 2023, Oct. Trinity - Green hold by 31.5% over Lab.
Wards where all three councillors have changed party (2023 result given): Bank Hall - 3x Lab to BIG. Lab hold by 63.7% over LD. Daneshouse with Stoneyholme - 3x Lab to BIG. Lab hold by 60.1% over LD. Gannow - 2x BPIP to Ind, 1x BPIP to Lab. BPIP hold by 11.5% over Lab. Queensgate - 3x Lab to BIG. Lab hold by 55.7% over Con.
Split wards (2023 result given): Brunshaw - 1 Green, 1 Lab, 1 BIG (ex-Lab). Green defence. Lab hold by 4.6% over Green. Gawthorpe - 2 Lab, 1 Con. Con defence. Lab hold by 37.4% over Con. Lanehead - 2 Lab, 1 BIG (ex-Lab). BIG defence. Lab hold by 23.7% over Con. Rosehill with Burnley Wood - 2 Lab, 1 LD. Lab defence. Lab gain by 1% from LD.
Close wards (2023 result given): Cliviger with Worsthorne - Green gain by 2.1% from Con.
2023 Candidate totals: 15 Con, 15 Green, 15 Lab, 10 LD, 2 BPIP, 1 Heritage, 1 Ind 2021 Candidate totals: 15 Con, 15 Green, 15 Lab, 8 LD, 6 BPIP, 1 National Front, 1 SDP
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Post by batman on Dec 12, 2023 22:41:18 GMT
reet bloody mess
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Post by iang on Dec 13, 2023 18:50:22 GMT
What triggered it all?
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Post by jamie on Dec 13, 2023 19:07:38 GMT
Hamas’s attack on Israel, but 2018 was really when the current fragmentation started to really kick off.
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iang
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Post by iang on Dec 13, 2023 19:19:20 GMT
Hadn't realised it was that recently
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Post by iain on Apr 5, 2024 16:48:57 GMT
SOPN: burnley.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Statement-of-Persons-Nominated-Borough.pdfLabour - 15 Conservative - 15 Green - 10 (missing Bank Hall, Daneshouse with Stoneyholme, Gawthorpe, Lanehead, Queensgate) Lib Dem - 6 (Briercliffe, Clivigier with Worsthorne, Coalclough with Deerplay, Daneshouse with Stoneyholme, Gannow, Rosehill with Burnley Wood) Independent - 9 (2x Whittlefield with Ightenhill, 1x Bank Hall, Brunshaw, Daneshouse with Stoneyholme, Gannow, Lanehead, Queensgate, Rosegrove with Lowerhouse)
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Post by lancastrian on Apr 5, 2024 19:17:18 GMT
Six of the Independents appear to be a slate for the Burnley Independent Group (the group who left Labour over Gaza). They are standing in Bank Hall, Brunshaw, Daneshouse with Stoneyholme, Lanehead, Queensgate and Rosegrove with Lowerhouse. They currently hold Bank Hall, Daneshouse with Stoneyholme, Lanehead and Queensgate, though the current councillor is not standing again in Queensgate.
The Independent in Gannow appears to be last year's Lib Dem candidate for Bank Hall. He gives an address in Daneshouse, not close to Gannow. I did wonder if he might be related to the Independent Group as well, but he isn't on the candidate list I found from a few days ago.
One of the Independents in Whittlefield with Ightenhill is a former Lib Dem councillor for the ward, the other has stood in the last three elections either as an Independent or SDP.
None of these are related to the Burnley and Padiham Independent Party, who do now seem to have given up the ghost with one councillor defecting to Labour, one to the Tories and the last not standing for re-election.
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Post by lancastrian on Apr 5, 2024 22:45:04 GMT
Notable here that there isn't a single Asian name among the Labour candidates.
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Post by jamie on Apr 5, 2024 23:24:07 GMT
Notable here that there isn't a single Asian name among the Labour candidates. I remember a comment on here a couple of years ago about how Labour were starting to look like an Asian party in Burnley. Well, that’s certainly not the case at the moment, for better or for worse.
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Post by owainsutton on Apr 6, 2024 8:46:42 GMT
None of these are related to the Burnley and Padiham Independent Party, who do now seem to have given up the ghost with one councillor defecting to Labour, one to the Tories and the last not standing for re-election. The party deregistered last summer.
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 8, 2024 9:07:58 GMT
Notable here that there isn't a single Asian name among the Labour candidates. Which is fairly shocking tbh, this isn't the case in any of the other places where Labour have had significant Gaza troubles - even Pendle has managed a few.
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Post by ideal4radio on Apr 12, 2024 20:49:16 GMT
Notable here that there isn't a single Asian name among the Labour candidates. Which is fairly shocking tbh, this isn't the case in any of the other places where Labour have had significant Gaza troubles - even Pendle has managed a few. What I find sad, if not especially shocking, is the fact that 12/15 Labour Candidates who are standing, do not feel safe enough to publish their home addresses on their " Statement of person's nominated " . Is this on Party or Police advice, I wonder ? Looking further ahead to the General Election due in the next 10 months, if both Galloway's " Worker's Party " and " Reform " put up a Candidate, and possibly a local ex-Labour Muslim " Independent " as well, then it's entirely possible that an MP could be elected with less than 10,000 votes ....
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 13, 2024 9:47:14 GMT
Which is fairly shocking tbh, this isn't the case in any of the other places where Labour have had significant Gaza troubles - even Pendle has managed a few. What I find sad, if not especially shocking, is the fact that 12/15 Labour Candidates who are standing, do not feel safe enough to publish their home addresses on their " Statement of person's nominated " . Is this on Party or Police advice, I wonder ? That is nothing specific to Burnley as far as I can tell. I think the majority of candidates everywhere opt for the 'address in **** district' now they have that option. In my own ward only 1 of 4 candidates has their address listed, in the ward I previously lived in in St Albans none of them do. I don't think its necessarily indicative of anything sinister
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Post by J.G.Harston on Apr 13, 2024 11:17:25 GMT
What I find sad, if not especially shocking, is the fact that 12/15 Labour Candidates who are standing, do not feel safe enough to publish their home addresses on their " Statement of person's nominated " . Is this on Party or Police advice, I wonder ? That is nothing specific to Burnley as far as I can tell. I think the majority of candidates everywhere opt for the 'address in **** district' now they have that option. In my own ward only 1 of 4 candidates has their address listed, in the ward I previously lived in in St Albans none of them do. I don't think its necessarily indicative of anything sinister It could be just a minor misunderstanding of the forms, and unconsciously ticking the box along with all the other boxes. For example I've seen candidates fill in eg name: "Fred Smith" known as "Fred Smith". A couple of years ago I had to do a bank transfer and had to tick various boxes on a form and went down yes yes yes yes - only for the clerk to stop me at the "Have you been unduely influenced to make this transaction". Dammit, why do they change one of the questions from "yes" to "no" right in the middle?
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Post by carolus on Apr 13, 2024 11:25:30 GMT
That is nothing specific to Burnley as far as I can tell. I think the majority of candidates everywhere opt for the 'address in **** district' now they have that option. In my own ward only 1 of 4 candidates has their address listed, in the ward I previously lived in in St Albans none of them do. I don't think its necessarily indicative of anything sinister It could be just a minor misunderstanding of the forms, and unconsciously ticking the box along with all the other boxes. For example I've seen candidates fill in eg name: "Fred Smith" known as "Fred Smith". A couple of years ago I had to do a bank transfer and had to tick various boxes on a form and went down yes yes yes yes - only for the clerk to stop me at the "Have you been unduely influenced to make this transaction". Dammit, why do they change one of the questions from "yes" to "no" right in the middle? Surely in that case it might be part of the point? If the bank's intention is to make you think about the questions then they won't want you to be able to mindlessly tick the yes boxes.
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Post by greatkingrat on Apr 13, 2024 11:27:32 GMT
"Yes I have been unduly influenced - the electricity company say they will cut me off if I don't pay them"
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Post by owainsutton on Apr 13, 2024 17:34:33 GMT
What I find sad, if not especially shocking, is the fact that 12/15 Labour Candidates who are standing, do not feel safe enough to publish their home addresses on their " Statement of person's nominated " . Is this on Party or Police advice, I wonder ? That is nothing specific to Burnley as far as I can tell. I think the majority of candidates everywhere opt for the 'address in **** district' now they have that option. In my own ward only 1 of 4 candidates has their address listed, in the ward I previously lived in in St Albans none of them do. I don't think its necessarily indicative of anything sinister Only a fifth of candidates here have their addresses listed. Trafford definitely not being like Burnley for political divides or local hostilities.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 14, 2024 8:50:55 GMT
That is nothing specific to Burnley as far as I can tell. I think the majority of candidates everywhere opt for the 'address in **** district' now they have that option. In my own ward only 1 of 4 candidates has their address listed, in the ward I previously lived in in St Albans none of them do. I don't think its necessarily indicative of anything sinister Only a fifth of candidates here have their addresses listed. Trafford definitely not being like Burnley for political divides or local hostilities. Manchester candidates rarely used to list their addresses. Stockport candidates still seem to.
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Post by ideal4radio on May 1, 2024 22:07:43 GMT
Predictions ... only against myself !!
Bank Hall - Ind hold B'cliffe - LD hold Brunshaw - Lab hold Cliv & W - Con gain from Green C & D'play - LD hold D & S'holme - Ind hold Gannow - Toss Up Gawth'pe - Labour hold Hapton/Park - Con hold L'head - Labour gain from Ind Q'gate - Ind hold R'Grove/Low - Ind hold Rosehill - Lab hold Trinity - Green hold W'field/I'hill - Con hold
.... but what do I know !!
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