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Post by BossMan on Aug 9, 2023 17:34:54 GMT
Rochdale
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Post by carolus on Feb 19, 2024 15:05:17 GMT
Current council: 46 Lab, 9 Con, 3 LD, 2 Middleton Independent Up in 2024: 16 Lab, 3 Con, 1 LD
Split wards (2023 result given): East Middleton - 2 Lab, 1 MI. Lab defence. Lab gain from MI by 34.6%. North Middleton - 2 Lab, 1 MI. Lab defence. Lab gain from MI 9.3%.
Close wards (2023 result given): Littleborough Lakeside - Lab gain from Con by 0.2%.
2023 Candidate totals: 20 Con, 20 Lab, 15 LD, 9 Green, 5 MI, 1 Freedom Alliance, 2 Ind 2021 Candidate totals: 20 Con, 20 Lab, 18 LD, 14 Green, 1 Freedom Alliance, 1 SDP, 1 UKIP, 3 Ind
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YL
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Post by YL on Mar 1, 2024 8:04:25 GMT
I wonder what Galloway's lot will actually do here now.
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Post by batman on Mar 1, 2024 8:12:43 GMT
They'll have to attempt to stand some candidates after Galloway's grandiose claims.
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Tony Otim
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Post by Tony Otim on Mar 1, 2024 8:53:15 GMT
They'll have to attempt to stand some candidates after Galloway's grandiose claims. Is there any evidence for a direct relationship between what comes out of Galloway's mouth and subsequent actions?
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Post by carolus on Mar 1, 2024 8:57:05 GMT
Perhaps we'll see a Kingston-Rochdale Independent Alliance
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 1, 2024 10:32:24 GMT
Respect managed to win several seats in Bradford on the back of the Bradford West by-election and with less time to organise candidates than they have now. The muslim vote is more concentrated here too so they can concentrate on two or three wards (Galloway must have won Bradford West levels of support in wards like Central Rochdale and Milkstone & Deeplish)
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Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Mar 1, 2024 11:32:39 GMT
Current council: 46 Lab, 9 Con, 3 LD, 2 Middleton Independent Up in 2024: 16 Lab, 3 Con, 1 LD Split wards (2023 result given): East Middleton - 2 Lab, 1 MI. Lab defence. Lab gain from MI by 34.6%. North Middleton - 2 Lab, 1 MI. Lab defence. Lab gain from MI 9.3%. Close wards (2023 result given): Littleborough Lakeside - Lab gain from Con by 0.2%. 2023 Candidate totals: 20 Con, 20 Lab, 15 LD, 9 Green, 5 MI, 1 Freedom Alliance, 2 Ind 2021 Candidate totals: 20 Con, 20 Lab, 18 LD, 14 Green, 1 Freedom Alliance, 1 SDP, 1 UKIP, 3 Ind Given this information, Lab loss to NOC perhaps?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 1, 2024 11:40:39 GMT
Current council: 46 Lab, 9 Con, 3 LD, 2 Middleton Independent Up in 2024: 16 Lab, 3 Con, 1 LD Split wards (2023 result given): East Middleton - 2 Lab, 1 MI. Lab defence. Lab gain from MI by 34.6%. North Middleton - 2 Lab, 1 MI. Lab defence. Lab gain from MI 9.3%. Close wards (2023 result given): Littleborough Lakeside - Lab gain from Con by 0.2%. 2023 Candidate totals: 20 Con, 20 Lab, 15 LD, 9 Green, 5 MI, 1 Freedom Alliance, 2 Ind 2021 Candidate totals: 20 Con, 20 Lab, 18 LD, 14 Green, 1 Freedom Alliance, 1 SDP, 1 UKIP, 3 Ind Given this information, Lab loss to NOC perhaps? Given they have 46 of 60 seats and are defending 16 this year, they would need to lose every one of those for the council to go technically to NOC. So probably not no..
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 1, 2024 13:50:49 GMT
Yes, though it is maybe fortunate for Labour that the all-outs were in 2022 and not this year
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Post by kevinf on Mar 1, 2024 13:59:11 GMT
Galloway likes to have a councillor base looking after his back. Probably most significant were his overtures to David Tully at the count, who would presumably gain support for a slate of councillors where Galloway is weaker? Combined they could be significant. Cant remember him praising anyone as much as he did Tully.
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Post by michaelarden on Mar 1, 2024 14:31:47 GMT
Perhaps we'll see a Kingston-Rochdale Independent Alliance Don't think there's any perhaps about it.
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Post by iain on Apr 5, 2024 17:24:39 GMT
Separate SOPNs: www.rochdale.gov.uk/downloads/download/943/local-elections---statements-of-persons-nominatedLabour - 20 Conservative - 20 Lib Dem - 20 Workers Party - 13 (missing East Middleton, Hopwood Hall, North Middleton, Smallbridge & Firgrove, South Middleton, Spotland & Falinge, West Middleton) Green - 10 (missing Central Rochdale, East Middleton, Hopwood Hall, North Heywood, North Middleton, Smallbridge & Firgrove, South Middleton, Spotland & Falinge, West Heywood, West Middleton) Middleton Independents - 5 (East Middleton, Hopwood Hall, North Middleton, South Middleton, West Middleton) Reform UK - 2 (Hopwood Hall, North Heywood) Independent - 2 (Castleton, Spotland & Falinge Farooq Ahmed, who was the Lib Dem candidate for Central Rochdale before being spotted campaigning for Galloway looks to have had his papers put in and then withdrawn as a Lib Dem candidate, and is now the Workers Party candidate.
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Post by robert1 on Apr 5, 2024 18:16:57 GMT
Galloway's supporters standing as Workers Party candidates? Politics of the 2 Independents?
Anyone with local knowledge please
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 5, 2024 18:19:49 GMT
Smallbridge & Firgrove, Spotland & Falinge are odd omissions (unless the Independent in Spotland is of like mind) - especially considering some of the relatively hopeless wards they're standing in, including several not in Galloway's seat
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YL
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Post by YL on Apr 6, 2024 5:57:47 GMT
Reform UK - 1 (Hopwood Hall, North Heywood There are 2 Reform UK candidates, one in each of those wards. Neither Independent stood in the by-election; David Tully is not standing. However William Howarth, the anti-grooming campaigner who stood as an Independent in the by-election is standing for the Workers Party in Balderstone & Kirkholt.
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 6, 2024 10:52:52 GMT
Horseshoe theory in action!
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Post by CatholicLeft on Apr 6, 2024 11:06:25 GMT
Reform UK - 1 (Hopwood Hall, North Heywood There are 2 Reform UK candidates, one in each of those wards. Neither Independent stood in the by-election; David Tully is not standing. However William Howarth, the anti-grooming campaigner who stood as an Independent in the by-election is standing for the Workers Party in Balderstone & Kirkholt.I find this somewhat baffling - nobody could be less likely to agree with the politics of the Workers' Party than Billy Howarth, and many of the supporters of George Galloway consider him a racist for pointing out the ethnicity of the Rochdale grooming gangs.
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Post by nesta on Apr 6, 2024 11:29:02 GMT
In June 2014, Farooq Ahmed was convicted of a public order offence after being found guilty of abusing a Labour councillor (now the present council leader) in the street using a homophobic slur. He appealed his conviction but in December 2014 the court upheld his conviction and rejected his appeal. He then formed his own party called Rochdale First and fought both his council seat and the general election in 2015 in Rochdale and lost both to Labour. His wife remained on the council and defected to the Tories. He was originally chosen by the Lib Dems to stand this May in Central Rochdale but was suspended after being photographed with Galloway. It would seem the Lib Dems either forgave him or he argued he wasn't campaigning for Galloway, just that he had a picture of himself with Galloway because nomination papers were handed in with him being a Lib Dem candidate. He then withdrew his nomination papers and decided to stand for the Workers Party meaning the Lib Dems had to find a new candidate. It also meant the Workers Party ditched their original candidate for Central Rochdale, a young man well-connected with the Rochdale Council of Mosques, and put Ahmed in instead!
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Post by No Offence Alan on Apr 6, 2024 12:15:18 GMT
There are 2 Reform UK candidates, one in each of those wards. Neither Independent stood in the by-election; David Tully is not standing. However William Howarth, the anti-grooming campaigner who stood as an Independent in the by-election is standing for the Workers Party in Balderstone & Kirkholt.I find this somewhat baffling - nobody could be less likely to agree with the politics of the Workers' Party than Billy Howarth, and many of the supporters of George Galloway consider him a racist for pointing out the ethnicity of the Rochdale grooming gangs. As far as the Workers' Party is concerned, no barrel can be left un-scraped.
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