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Post by borisminor on Apr 8, 2024 20:39:43 GMT
The Lib Dem in Golcar is Nicola Turner, the former Colne Valley councillor who nearly won the constituency in 2010. Colne Valley constituency feels like a seat that the Liberal Democrats should have done better in 2010. They had the largest vote share in the constituency in local elections running up to it. I imagine they got squeezed by both parties making it a Conservative-Labour marginal in a similar way to the unusual decline in the Liberal Democrat vote in 1997 here. Unrelated to Colne Valley but I expect Labour will be making gains overall in Kirklees despite the obvious issues regarding finances. It will be interesting to see how Independent candidates do this time - there are five more standing than last year, with most of them in the Dewsbury and Batley area.
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Post by edgbaston on Apr 8, 2024 23:10:02 GMT
The Lib Dem in Golcar is Nicola Turner, the former Colne Valley councillor who nearly won the constituency in 2010. Colne Valley constituency feels like a seat that the Liberal Democrats should have done better in 2010. They had the largest vote share in the constituency in local elections running up to it. I imagine they got squeezed by both parties making it a Conservative-Labour marginal in a similar way to the unusual decline in the Liberal Democrat vote in 1997 here. Unrelated to Colne Valley but I expect Labour will be making gains overall in Kirklees despite the obvious issues regarding finances. It will be interesting to see how Independent candidates do this time - there are five more standing than last year, with most of them in the Dewsbury and Batley area. A longer time member once told me that they felt the 2010 result in Colne Valley was particularly influenced by the Ashcroft money, with the current Tory MP Jason putting out masses of literature and basically living in the area as a full time activist in the year before the election. The Lib Dems just couldn’t compete with this presumably. Not sure if that’s just sour grapes though.
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Post by maxque on Apr 12, 2024 15:52:00 GMT
www.kirklees.gov.uk/beta/voting-and-elections/statement-of-persons-nominated.aspx(separate PDFs) Lab 23 Con 23 Lib Dem 23 Green 23 TUSC 1 (Ashbrow) Yorkshire Party 1 (Colne Valley) Reform UK 1 (Mirfield) Heritage 1 (Lindley) Ind 14 (Batley E, Batley W, Crosland Moor & Netherton, Dalton, Denby Dale, Dewsbury E, Dewsbury S x3, Dewsbury W, Greenhead, Heckmondwike, Holme Valley N, Kirkburton) The Independent in Holme Valley North is the defending councillor. There is only 13 Independents, the one in Dewsbury E withdrew.
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Post by borisminor on May 3, 2024 14:24:30 GMT
First independent gain. Former lesder Shabir Pandor loses to Independent Zahid Kahit in Batley West.
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Post by edgbaston on May 3, 2024 15:25:46 GMT
Labour make up for that (shocking, but in the wider context of the night not that shocking) loss with a gain of the last conservative seat in Holme Valley South
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Post by edgbaston on May 3, 2024 15:36:35 GMT
Greens take Crossland Moor & Netherton and come very close to taking Greenhead.
Independents beat Labour in 4/5.5 wards that make up the new Dewsbury and Batley constituency (as well as Heckmondwike) which is seriously worrying people.
Both sets of results linked to the Gaza issue.
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Post by Merseymike on May 3, 2024 15:53:12 GMT
Greens take Crossland Moor & Netherton and come very close to taking Greenhead. Independents beat Labour in 4/5.5 wards that make up the new Dewsbury and Batley constituency (as well as Heckmondwike) which is seriously worrying people. Both sets of results linked to the Gaza issue. Of course the Palestine issue is real.
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Post by Tony Otim on May 3, 2024 16:00:17 GMT
Greens take Crossland Moor & Netherton and come very close to taking Greenhead. Independents beat Labour in 4/5.5 wards that make up the new Dewsbury and Batley constituency (as well as Heckmondwike) which is seriously worrying people. Both sets of results linked to the Gaza issue. Greens had been targetting Crossland Moor since last year, before Gaza - there was a significant increase in their vote there last May.
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Post by melthamhd94nn on May 3, 2024 16:05:18 GMT
Lib Dems take the third seat in Almondbury and Lindley from the Tories.
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Post by edgbaston on May 3, 2024 16:14:42 GMT
Greens take Crossland Moor & Netherton and come very close to taking Greenhead. Independents beat Labour in 4/5.5 wards that make up the new Dewsbury and Batley constituency (as well as Heckmondwike) which is seriously worrying people. Both sets of results linked to the Gaza issue. Greens had been targetting Crossland Moor since last year, before Gaza - there was a significant increase in their vote there last May. While this is true CMN & Greenhead are both 40% Muslim, so I think it is hard to say the far more dramatic results this time haven’t been influenced by Labour’s fallout with Muslim voters nationally
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Post by lancastrian on May 5, 2024 17:20:52 GMT
Dewsbury East has the smallest Muslim population in that area (19%), and there was no Independent candidate.
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Post by bluelabour on May 5, 2024 23:00:17 GMT
I thought Labour might’ve had a chance in Liversedge and Birstall this year but clearly not. Denby Dale also stands out as a missed opportunity.
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Post by mattbewilson on May 6, 2024 8:36:10 GMT
I thought Labour might’ve had a chance in Liversedge and Birstall this year but clearly not. Denby Dale also stands out as a missed opportunity. it's a tough time for kirklees
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Post by jamie on May 6, 2024 9:15:36 GMT
Dewsbury East has the smallest Muslim population in that area (19%), and there was no Independent candidate. The Dewsbury area ward which voted for the right wing populist in 2019 is the only one Labour held (and quite comfortably)…
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Post by bsjmcr on May 6, 2024 23:06:38 GMT
I thought Labour might’ve had a chance in Liversedge and Birstall this year but clearly not. Denby Dale also stands out as a missed opportunity. Have Labour ever taken Liversedge/Birstall/Mirfield in recent (say since 1990) history? They seem to have pretty stubborn Tory votes yet aren’t quite as ‘up there’ as say Holmfirth in terms of affluence, and yet it is Holme Valley S that has rejected the Tories for the past few years. Labour did take Denby Dale a couple of years back with the then cabinet member Will Simpson, not sure what happened this time, perhaps personal votes do matter round here. The proliferation of independents this time I’d say isn’t just over the Middle East issue (see the winner in Dewsbury West as I have mentioned in the WYCA Mayor thread), but I think to doubly give the council a general kicking from ‘North Kirklees’ which has always had a degree of resentment to ‘the south’ aka Huddersfield and environs. A north-south divide of its own here and probably unseen elsewhere - I don’t think there is this much resentment to Halifax in Calderdale, for example. On my side of the Pennines, perhaps Bolton has some things in common here with Farnworth etc being the North Kirklees equivalent, feeling it is too Bolton town centre-centric, then Horwich/Westhoughton being the suburban Holmfirth/Colne Valley equivalents.
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Post by edgbaston on May 6, 2024 23:57:20 GMT
I thought Labour might’ve had a chance in Liversedge and Birstall this year but clearly not. Denby Dale also stands out as a missed opportunity. Have Labour ever taken Liversedge/Birstall/Mirfield in recent (say since 1990) history? They seem to have pretty stubborn Tory votes yet aren’t quite as ‘up there’ as say Holmfirth in terms of affluence, and yet it is Holme Valley S that has rejected the Tories for the past few years. Labour did take Denby Dale a couple of years back with the then cabinet member Will Simpson, not sure what happened this time, perhaps personal votes do matter round here. The proliferation of independents this time I’d say isn’t just over the Middle East issue (see the winner in Dewsbury West as I have mentioned in the WYCA Mayor thread), but I think to doubly give the council a general kicking from ‘North Kirklees’ which has always had a degree of resentment to ‘the south’ aka Huddersfield and environs. A north-south divide of its own here and probably unseen elsewhere - I don’t think there is this much resentment to Halifax in Calderdale, for example. On my side of the Pennines, perhaps Bolton has some things in common here with Farnworth etc being the North Kirklees equivalent, feeling it is too Bolton town centre-centric, then Horwich/Westhoughton being the suburban Holmfirth/Colne Valley equivalents. Liversedge/Birstall/Mirfield are racially polarised against Labour. Holmfirth is not and increasingly has what I will describe as the ‘hebden bridge demographic’ voter. labour has been doing well in this section of the middle Pennines for a while now. Big personal vote for the Tory in DD very active Cllr. @ing hullenedge who may be able to provide one of his fantastic 1990s maps of Kirklees where Labour had a couple of mega landslides
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Post by john07 on May 7, 2024 1:13:54 GMT
Greens take Crossland Moor & Netherton and come very close to taking Greenhead. Independents beat Labour in 4/5.5 wards that make up the new Dewsbury and Batley constituency (as well as Heckmondwike) which is seriously worrying people. Both sets of results linked to the Gaza issue. Of course the Palestine issue is real. I am sure that it is the key talking point in every pub in the District.
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Post by hullenedge on May 7, 2024 7:33:35 GMT
Have Labour ever taken Liversedge/Birstall/Mirfield in recent (say since 1990) history? They seem to have pretty stubborn Tory votes yet aren’t quite as ‘up there’ as say Holmfirth in terms of affluence, and yet it is Holme Valley S that has rejected the Tories for the past few years. Labour did take Denby Dale a couple of years back with the then cabinet member Will Simpson, not sure what happened this time, perhaps personal votes do matter round here. The proliferation of independents this time I’d say isn’t just over the Middle East issue (see the winner in Dewsbury West as I have mentioned in the WYCA Mayor thread), but I think to doubly give the council a general kicking from ‘North Kirklees’ which has always had a degree of resentment to ‘the south’ aka Huddersfield and environs. A north-south divide of its own here and probably unseen elsewhere - I don’t think there is this much resentment to Halifax in Calderdale, for example. On my side of the Pennines, perhaps Bolton has some things in common here with Farnworth etc being the North Kirklees equivalent, feeling it is too Bolton town centre-centric, then Horwich/Westhoughton being the suburban Holmfirth/Colne Valley equivalents. Liversedge/Birstall/Mirfield are racially polarised against Labour. Holmfirth is not and increasingly has what I will describe as the ‘hebden bridge demographic’ voter. labour has been doing well in this section of the middle Pennines for a while now. Big personal vote for the Tory in DD very active Cllr. @ing hullenedge who may be able to provide one of his fantastic 1990s maps of Kirklees where Labour had a couple of mega landslides Kirklees is bizarre (for want of a better word) when it comes to local elections. You'd think that 1995 would be the pinnacle of Labour success (18 wins) but not so. The very best year for Labour (19 wins) was 1979. On the day they lost Hudds West and Brighouse & Spenborough there was a sea of red, albeit some close victories, bar for Colne Valley West, Lindley, Mirfield, Kirkburton and Birkby (where they fell 69 votes short).
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Post by batman on May 7, 2024 8:00:08 GMT
Also worth noting that before 1997 the last time that Labour had held all the parliamentary constituencies in what became Kirklees was their losing general election of 1970 (Labour's David Clark, later to become a Cabinet Minister, gained Colne Valley from the Liberals' Richard Wainwright but lost it again in February 1974)
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Post by Merseymike on May 7, 2024 8:02:41 GMT
Of course the Palestine issue is real. I am sure that it is the key talking point in every pub in the District. Every pub, no...but I think edgbaston sums up - four Independents in Dewsbury and Batley, and two Huddersfield wards - Palestine is real.
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