Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 4, 2023 3:24:31 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 4, 2023 8:38:57 GMT
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Georg Ebner
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Roman romantic reactionary Catholic
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 5, 2023 13:16:10 GMT
They should have a look also at BSP or PSD... How many eastEuropean parties are good enough for the BrusselsBubble? Even EPP is not so deeply rooted there any longer: When the Liberal InterNational expelled FPÖ, Jörg Haider was joking: "We did anyway not fit to them - because we have success..."
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 12, 2023 19:31:43 GMT
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Post by rcronald on Oct 13, 2023 3:20:12 GMT
Making it complicated was all part of the wicked establishment plot. Conspiracy theories used to involve lizards and Prince Philip and Bill Gates microchip vaccines and the Frankfurt School. Now they're about Slovak electoral law. Funny how life moves on. Is hating the Frankfurt School and their beliefs/ambitions really a conspiracy theory? (I'm obviously not talking about the other things as people who believe in them should probably be involuntarily placed in an insane asylum)
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Post by rcronald on Oct 13, 2023 3:34:44 GMT
The leader of ChristDemocratic KDH (per se a softy) called the cult around homo&trans-Sexuals (and whatever more) "a plague" and the chatting class in Bratislava declared this to be the end of his party - but the contrary happened. The Urban elite in Slovakia, Poland, Hungary, Romania, and other former commie bloc nations don’t seem to understand that they live in Eastern Europe….
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Post by ibfc on Oct 13, 2023 3:47:55 GMT
The leader of ChristDemocratic KDH (per se a softy) called the cult around homo&trans-Sexuals (and whatever more) "a plague" and the chatting class in Bratislava declared this to be the end of his party - but the contrary happened. The Urban elite in Slovakia, Poland, Hungary, Romania, and other former commie bloc nations don’t seem to understand that they live in Eastern Europe…. They are gaining in influence. Don’t write them off.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 13, 2023 4:15:05 GMT
The Urban elite in Slovakia, Poland, Hungary, Romania, and other former commie bloc nations don’t seem to understand that they live in Eastern Europe…. They are gaining in influence. Don’t write them off. I’m actually much closer to them than the non-metropolitan parties on gay rights. (I think)
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Post by ibfc on Oct 13, 2023 4:17:11 GMT
They are gaining in influence. Don’t write them off. I’m actually much closer to them than the non-metropolitan parties on gay rights. (I think) Fair enough. It’s all a package though.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 13, 2023 4:20:57 GMT
I’m actually much closer to them than the non-metropolitan parties on gay rights. (I think) Fair enough. It’s all a package though. I know, outside of Poland I would still vote for the non-metro parties because literally disagree with them on almost every single issue outside of Gay rights. I have no idea who I would have voted for in Poland (probably PO until 2015 but the party moved sharply to the left since then).
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Post by ibfc on Oct 13, 2023 4:44:38 GMT
Fair enough. It’s all a package though. I know, outside of Poland I would still vote for the non-metro parties because literally disagree with them on almost every single issue outside of Gay rights. I have no idea who I would have voted for in Poland (probably PO until 2015 but the party moved sharply to the left since then). Yeah I would’ve voted for the PO till around 2014 but the party and I have moved in sharply opposite directions post that.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 13, 2023 4:51:06 GMT
I know, outside of Poland I would still vote for the non-metro parties because literally disagree with them on almost every single issue outside of Gay rights. I have no idea who I would have voted for in Poland (probably PO until 2015 but the party moved sharply to the left since then). Yeah I would’ve voted for the PO till around 2014 but the party and I have moved in sharply opposite directions post that. the party seems to be competing with Fine Gael, and CSV for the worst major national EPP party award.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 13, 2023 6:58:17 GMT
Conspiracy theories used to involve lizards and Prince Philip and Bill Gates microchip vaccines and the Frankfurt School. Now they're about Slovak electoral law. Funny how life moves on. Is hating the Frankfurt School and their beliefs/ambitions really a conspiracy theory? (I'm obviously not talking about the other things as people who believe in them should probably be involuntarily placed in an insane asylum) Oh, there's a lot to criticise about the Frankfurt School. But you never hear those sort of arguments. You hear nutters talking them as up as some sort of sinister cabal, rather than as long-dead academics who really, really didn't like jazz.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 13, 2023 7:00:53 GMT
Is hating the Frankfurt School and their beliefs/ambitions really a conspiracy theory? (I'm obviously not talking about the other things as people who believe in them should probably be involuntarily placed in an insane asylum) Oh, there's a lot to criticise about the Frankfurt School. But you never hear those sort of arguments. You hear nutters talking them as up as some sort of sinister cabal, rather than as long-dead academics who really, really didn't like jazz. I doubt most of the chips in vaccines nutters even know what the Frankfurt School even is.
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Georg Ebner
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Roman romantic reactionary Catholic
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 13, 2023 19:02:11 GMT
Is hating the Frankfurt School and their beliefs/ambitions really a conspiracy theory? (I'm obviously not talking about the other things as people who believe in them should probably be involuntarily placed in an insane asylum) Oh, there's a lot to criticise about the Frankfurt School. But you never hear those sort of arguments. You hear nutters talking them as up as some sort of sinister cabal, rather than as long-dead academics who really, really didn't like jazz. ADORNO - and also others - was indeed in many ways one of us anti-modern "nutters".
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 15, 2023 18:59:45 GMT
PES have suspended SMER and Hlas.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 16, 2023 4:37:12 GMT
PES have suspended SMER and Hlas. Hlas? They are almost certainly less “problematic” than most other Eastern European PES parties…
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