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Post by markgoodair on Jun 24, 2023 9:28:19 GMT
Even through the elections aren’t until 30th September there are already election billboards up in Slovakia.
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Post by markgoodair on Sept 12, 2023 15:23:52 GMT
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 12, 2023 23:19:04 GMT
I don't get, why PR with a 5/7/10%-thresHold should be "a complicated voting system". |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Sept 13, 2023 2:10:47 GMT
I don't get, why PR with a 5/7/10%-thresHold should be "a complicated voting system". Because the UK has a biased media in cahoots with the establishment to ensure we don't get the same proportional voting systems used without the sky falling in across the rest of the civilised world. |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 13, 2023 9:28:25 GMT
I mean, this is the Guardian - a media outlet not exactly unsympathetic to electoral reform.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 13, 2023 22:31:01 GMT
I mean, this is the Guardian - a media outlet not exactly unsympathetic to electoral reform. They're not that off the mark calling it complicated anyway. I can't imagine any country adopting a PR system now would adopt such a system. |
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Post by spqr on Sept 13, 2023 22:41:45 GMT
I mean, this is the Guardian - a media outlet not exactly unsympathetic to electoral reform. They're not that off the mark calling it complicated anyway. I can't imagine any country adopting a PR system now would adopt such a system. Making it complicated was all part of the wicked establishment plot. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 14, 2023 8:04:03 GMT
They're not that off the mark calling it complicated anyway. I can't imagine any country adopting a PR system now would adopt such a system. Making it complicated was all part of the wicked establishment plot. Conspiracy theories used to involve lizards and Prince Philip and Bill Gates microchip vaccines and the Frankfurt School. Now they're about Slovak electoral law. Funny how life moves on. |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 14, 2023 11:20:30 GMT
One of my favourite codewords there is Common Purpose, by all objective standards an almost painfully milquetoast operation.
(other current ubiquitous conspiracy buzzwords include World Economic Forum and Trilateral Commission)
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 14, 2023 12:35:56 GMT
One of my favourite codewords there is Common Purpose, by all objective standards an almost painfully milquetoast operation. (other current ubiquitous conspiracy buzzwords include World Economic Forum and Trilateral Commission) Common Purpose! Are they still going? The Great Reset was a brilliant one. All the nutters who thought it was a giant conspiracy rather than a boring wonky paper. And then all the people who were so keen to be on the right side of history that they denied Schwab had actually written what he had written, much of which very much deserved criticism. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 14, 2023 13:20:23 GMT
15 minute neighbourhoods is another great example. The perfectly reasonable position that it makes somewhere a lot nicer to live if they can find all their usual services within a fifteen minute walk becomes, when put through the conspiracy nut filter, a sinister plot to imprison everyone in their local area and never let them escape ever!
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 14, 2023 13:42:04 GMT
15 minute neighbourhoods is another great example. The perfectly reasonable position that it makes somewhere a lot nicer to live if they can find all their usual services within a fifteen minute walk becomes, when put through the conspiracy nut filter, a sinister plot to imprison everyone in their local area and never let them escape ever! The 15 Minute City is basically Zürich. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 14, 2023 13:55:11 GMT
Speaking of conspiracy theories, there's a kebab shop up the road being refurbished. Newspaper covering the windows and all that.
But bizarrely it's all from the Light, the weird conspiracy rag.
There's also a sign promoting it by the side of the A34 as you head into Congleton.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Sept 14, 2023 17:34:01 GMT
15 minute cities are what I remember growing up before all the local shops closed. There's no conspiracy theory in speed humps!
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 14, 2023 18:02:50 GMT
15 minute cities are what I remember growing up before all the local shops closed. There's no conspiracy theory in speed humps! But there is a conspiracy theory in a Guardian columnist observing that the Slovakian electoral system is complex.. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 16, 2023 11:44:26 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 19, 2023 22:03:40 GMT
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Post by YL on Sept 20, 2023 7:50:32 GMT
I think the article makes it pretty clear who Smer are. It doesn't mention their European Parliament affiliation, but Smer are not the only party in the EU whose European Parliament affiliation doesn't make much sense. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 20, 2023 9:25:44 GMT
I think the article makes it pretty clear who Smer are. It doesn't mention their European Parliament affiliation, but Smer are not the only party in the EU whose European Parliament affiliation doesn't make much sense. I'm not sure I agree on the first point. It makes various references that are questionable, such as "SMER and other right-wing parties". The references to Orban in both articles are admittedly probably lazy journalism, given that Fico and Orban are not on the greatest of terms, not least because Fico used to allow his ministers to run with some staggeringly racist language about Magyars. I simply think that the Guardian struggles with these left-populists, especially where their social programmes are more obviously conservative. They just can't square the circle of these people running on the same talking points as people they don't like, but also (on paper at least) having a social democratic or socialist label. See also Denmark - Iron Mette does things they don't like but is quite obviously not of the Right either. The opposite is true as well - you'll be unlikely to see an article attacking PiS that goes after its distributing economic tendencies. I fully agree that SMER's affiliation is questionable, and it is surprising that PES haven't finally bitten the bullet and expelled them for good. Especially as Fico is even more sulphorous now that when they suspended SMER years ago. Maybe they don't want to be seen to suspend a party that provides a commissioner, and will move then. If anything, I'd compare Fico with Wagenknecht these days. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Sept 20, 2023 10:28:25 GMT
I think the article makes it pretty clear who Smer are. It doesn't mention their European Parliament affiliation, but Smer are not the only party in the EU whose European Parliament affiliation doesn't make much sense. I'm not sure I agree on the first point. It makes various references that are questionable, such as "SMER and other right-wing parties". The references to Orban in both articles are admittedly probably lazy journalism, given that Fico and Orban are not on the greatest of terms, not least because Fico used to allow his ministers to run with some staggeringly racist language about Magyars. I simply think that the Guardian struggles with these left-populists, especially where their social programmes are more obviously conservative. They just can't square the circle of these people running on the same talking points as people they don't like, but also (on paper at least) having a social democratic or socialist label. See also Denmark - Iron Mette does things they don't like but is quite obviously not of the Right either. The opposite is true as well - you'll be unlikely to see an article attacking PiS that goes after its distributing economic tendencies. I fully agree that SMER's affiliation is questionable, and it is surprising that PES haven't finally bitten the bullet and expelled them for good. Especially as Fico is even more sulphorous now that when they suspended SMER years ago. Maybe they don't want to be seen to suspend a party that provides a commissioner, and will move then. If anything, I'd compare Fico with Wagenknecht these days. But PES and its members Smer, PSD-Romania, BSP-Bulgaria aso. are little against ANO remaining inside the Liberals, when its leader ran in the last presidential election on antiLiberalism! He even attended a meeting of the BannonCrowd in BudaPest. (The apPearance of Orban, PiS, Jansa, FPÖ was not surprising, of course.) |
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