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Post by rcronald on May 21, 2023 19:49:36 GMT
Let us know how your holiday goes.  Speaking of which, anybody know a good place to watch the German cup final in Jerusalem? Jerusalem is highly religious and the entire city is practically closed on the Sabbath (Saturday). The roads to Tel Aviv are unlikely to be congested on a Saturday, so I suggest you go to one of the numerous pubs here. |
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Post by finsobruce on May 21, 2023 19:52:24 GMT
"Handwritten letters from Jesus". Was it the fact that they were in biro that gave it away? 
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Post by minionofmidas on May 21, 2023 20:09:35 GMT
Speaking of which, anybody know a good place to watch the German cup final in Jerusalem? Jerusalem is highly religious and the entire city is practically closed on the Sabbath (Saturday). The roads to Tel Aviv are unlikely to be congested on a Saturday, so I suggest you go to one of the numerous pubs here. But it's after sunset... it doesn't work that way does it?  Let's see how the wifi at the hotel is, maybe I'll just find a stream online. |
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Post by rcronald on May 22, 2023 3:23:05 GMT
Jerusalem is highly religious and the entire city is practically closed on the Sabbath (Saturday). The roads to Tel Aviv are unlikely to be congested on a Saturday, so I suggest you go to one of the numerous pubs here. But it's after sunset... it doesn't work that way does it? Let's see how the wifi at the hotel is, maybe I'll just find a stream online. It actually does work that way in some places 😅 but streaming seems like a better bet. |
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Post by relique on May 22, 2023 5:02:05 GMT
Does he prefer being sold to the Chinese ? |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 22, 2023 6:48:00 GMT
The unspoken bit is that a second election probably works for Pasok too.
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Post by edgbaston on May 22, 2023 11:38:17 GMT
Does he prefer being sold to the Chinese ? Russia is a problem for now. China is seen as more of a problem for my generation. That’s the sad truth of a lot of European foreign policy right now. |
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Post by relique on May 22, 2023 11:46:01 GMT
Does he prefer being sold to the Chinese ? Russia is a problem for now. China is seen as more of a problem for my generation. That’s the sad truth of a lot of European foreign policy right now. Given that China is effectively financing the war Russia is given persona non grata status for, by buying their energy, it still is the equivalent of allying oneself with Saudi Arabia while battling against Al qaeda. |
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Post by mattbewilson on May 22, 2023 12:29:43 GMT
100%. We are where we are because we've allowed Russia's attack on Georgia, annexing of Crimea, etc. Let's be right, if it wasn't for zelensky we'd probably allowed Russia to annex the Donbas.
15 years time we might wake up to China and the Saudis. 15 years too late
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 22, 2023 13:52:23 GMT
Mitsotakis has said he can't form a coalition. This means Syriza and Pasok will now have three days to try themselves, which Pasok will presumably torpedo. Then it's time for fresh elections.
Tsipras is screwed unless he can pull together something incredible. And surely Greek Solution run the risk of dropping out if enough of their voters head to ND to force a centre-right government.
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Post by rcronald on May 22, 2023 14:39:39 GMT
Mitsotakis has said he can't form a coalition. This means Syriza and Pasok will now have three days to try themselves, which Pasok will presumably torpedo. Then it's time for fresh elections. Tsipras is screwed unless he can pull together something incredible. And surely Greek Solution run the risk of dropping out if enough of their voters head to ND to force a centre-right government. quite a risky move, since 3 parties that came close to winning seats yesterday may win seats. |
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Post by minionofmidas on May 22, 2023 17:12:09 GMT
Mitsotakis has said he can't form a coalition. This means Syriza and Pasok will now have three days to try themselves, which Pasok will presumably torpedo. Then it's time for fresh elections. Tsipras is screwed unless he can pull together something incredible. Incredible is understating it. Getting KKE to join a coalition gov't with PASOK wd be incredible, but here you also need LAOS Greek Solution. You realize the next election will have a majority bonus again? The election this applied to was this one. |
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Post by nelson on May 22, 2023 17:26:25 GMT
Mitsotakis has said he can't form a coalition. This means Syriza and Pasok will now have three days to try themselves, which Pasok will presumably torpedo. Then it's time for fresh elections. Tsipras is screwed unless he can pull together something incredible. And surely Greek Solution run the risk of dropping out if enough of their voters head to ND to force a centre-right government. quite a risky move, since 3 parties that came close to winning seats yesterday may win seats. won't really matter since the electoral bonus to the biggest party will be back. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 23, 2023 6:12:01 GMT
Mitsotakis has said he can't form a coalition. This means Syriza and Pasok will now have three days to try themselves, which Pasok will presumably torpedo. Then it's time for fresh elections. Tsipras is screwed unless he can pull together something incredible. Incredible is understating it. Getting KKE to join a coalition gov't with PASOK wd be incredible, but here you also need LAOS Greek Solution. You realize the next election will have a majority bonus again? The election this applied to was this one. Yes, but even with that bonus on offer, there will surely be a sizeable cohort of punters who could drop Greek Solution and fall in line behind ND? |
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Post by The Bishop on May 23, 2023 10:34:46 GMT
The unspoken bit is that a second election probably works for Pasok too. It would be quite the comeback if they overtook Syriza next time round. Combined with a possible revival for Scottish Labour, could we be seeing the demise of "Pasokification"? |
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Post by finsobruce on May 23, 2023 10:38:31 GMT
The unspoken bit is that a second election probably works for Pasok too. It would be quite the comeback if they overtook Syriza next time round. Combined with a possible revival for Scottish Labour, could we be seeing the demise of "Pasokification"? The demise of er, 'demising'.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2023 11:58:06 GMT
The unspoken bit is that a second election probably works for Pasok too. It would be quite the comeback if they overtook Syriza next time round. Combined with a possible revival for Scottish Labour, could we be seeing the demise of "Pasokification"? Is it not arguable that we are seeing pasokification of different parties, with previously pasokified parties replacing them? |
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 23, 2023 13:50:41 GMT
If any faith in Greek pollsters is left, the victory of ND and defeat of SYRIZA had 3 reasons: 1) Un/Late-Decided 2) Youth; cf. exitPolls for the 17-24 years old: 2019:  2023:  3) FreeLancers (in Greece a huge part of the professional): 2019:  2023:  |
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 23, 2023 13:54:37 GMT
based on their areas of strength, I think they are right of centre. Note: I don’t think they are going to win any seats. The handful badly translated Greek articles I've found make their leader sound more imbecile than actively rightist, but they're certainly not left in any way or form. Populist/NOTA vote I suppose. No, Victory ("Nike") is - as its name suggests - proPutin-nationalists. Not sure, whether their economical position is more liberal ("libertarian") or socialist ("populist"). |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 23, 2023 13:57:11 GMT
It would be quite the comeback if they overtook Syriza next time round. Combined with a possible revival for Scottish Labour, could we be seeing the demise of "Pasokification"? Is it not arguable that we are seeing pasokification of different parties, with previously pasokified parties replacing them? Are you endorsing antidispasokificationtarianism? |
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Let's see how the wifi at the hotel is, maybe I'll just find a stream online.
