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Post by evergreenadam on Nov 30, 2022 13:33:31 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 1, 2022 21:35:18 GMT
Chester isn't written up as a "blue wall" (ugh) seat because it has been a Labour seat for the vast majority of the last thirty years.
If you want a Cheshire seat that looks like a classic Tory seat, it's the ones that vote Tory. Tatton, Macclesfield, Congleton.
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Post by where2travel on Dec 1, 2022 21:49:39 GMT
Chester isn't written up as a "blue wall" (ugh) seat because it has been a Labour seat for the vast majority of the last thirty years. If you want a Cheshire seat that looks like a classic Tory seat, it's the ones that vote Tory. Tatton, Macclesfield, Congleton. And what's with the "southern shire city" comparison. Where does he want us to compare Chester against - because the obvious candidates that spring to mind are hardly solid Tory seats either? |
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Post by batman on Dec 1, 2022 22:06:20 GMT
Cathedral cities are rarely Tory strongholds wherever they are in Britain.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2022 22:07:38 GMT
Chester isn't written up as a "blue wall" (ugh) seat because it has been a Labour seat for the vast majority of the last thirty years. If you want a Cheshire seat that looks like a classic Tory seat, it's the ones that vote Tory. Tatton, Macclesfield, Congleton. And what's with the "southern shire city" comparison. Where does he want us to compare Chester against - because the obvious candidates that spring to mind are hardly solid Tory seats either? You could argue Bath or Cheltenham? Though there are decidedly grotty bits of both. And Bath is a current LD seat |
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Post by mattbewilson on Dec 1, 2022 22:24:48 GMT
Id probably say Bedford. It's probably smaller with a larger working class demographic and a smaller student population. I'm struggling to think of Somewhere else. Reading maybe or Bristol, though the latter is bigger with a larger student population
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 1, 2022 22:25:28 GMT
Chester isn't written up as a "blue wall" (ugh) seat because it has been a Labour seat for the vast majority of the last thirty years. If you want a Cheshire seat that looks like a classic Tory seat, it's the ones that vote Tory. Tatton, Macclesfield, Congleton. And what's with the "southern shire city" comparison. Where does he want us to compare Chester against - because the obvious candidates that spring to mind are hardly solid Tory seats either? People misunderstand Chester. Mind you, political commentators misunderstand everywhere. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 1, 2022 22:27:46 GMT
Chester isn't written up as a "blue wall" (ugh) seat because it has been a Labour seat for the vast majority of the last thirty years. If you want a Cheshire seat that looks like a classic Tory seat, it's the ones that vote Tory. Tatton, Macclesfield, Congleton. And what's with the "southern shire city" comparison. Where does he want us to compare Chester against - because the obvious candidates that spring to mind are hardly solid Tory seats either? Yeah, that was really odd. It's not even like cathedral cities in the Midlands really. Or even less posh southern seats. Corrections welcome but since 1997 it has been Tory for less time than such esteemed dreaming-spire settlements as Dover, Ipswich, Reading East, Corby... If this Parliament gets to its full term, it will have spent as much of the last 25 years with a Tory MP as such bastions of the Southern bourgeoisie as Burnley, Leigh, Gedling, Bassetlaw, Wrexham... Come to think of it, since 1997, it has been Conservative for only four-and-a half years more than Basingstoke has been DUP. |
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Post by mattbewilson on Dec 1, 2022 22:27:53 GMT
Quick Google suggests similar places in the south are Winchester, Oxford, Cambridge, St Albans and Southampton
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Post by where2travel on Dec 1, 2022 22:28:41 GMT
And what's with the "southern shire city" comparison. Where does he want us to compare Chester against - because the obvious candidates that spring to mind are hardly solid Tory seats either? You could argue Bath or Cheltenham? Though there are decidedly grotty bits of both. And Bath is a current LD seat There are grotty bits of Chester. Cheltenham has been Lib Dem for most of the last 30 years too (with just narrow Tory wins otherwise). |
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Post by where2travel on Dec 1, 2022 22:32:08 GMT
Quick Google suggests similar places in the south are Winchester, Oxford, Cambridge, St Albans and Southampton Canterbury came to my mind as well, but all of this list helps prove the point that transplanting Chester down south would not have it a "blue wall" seat by any stretch. |
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Post by WJ on Dec 1, 2022 22:42:52 GMT
Quick Google suggests similar places in the south are Winchester, Oxford, Cambridge, St Albans and Southampton No, No, No, NA* and No. More like Exeter or maybe Gloucester * I know nothing about St Albans |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 1, 2022 22:46:24 GMT
Quick Google suggests similar places in the south are Winchester, Oxford, Cambridge, St Albans and Southampton No, No, No, NA* and No. More like Exeter or maybe Gloucester * I know nothing about St Albans The analogue that jumps out to me isn't even Southern. It is Warwick & Leamington. |
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Post by yellowperil on Dec 1, 2022 22:51:06 GMT
Quick Google suggests similar places in the south are Winchester, Oxford, Cambridge, St Albans and Southampton No, No, No, NA* and No. More like Exeter or maybe Gloucester * I know nothing about St Albans I had thought Exeter and Gloucester were probably the best fits for a southern Chester. If you were looking for a more right wing southern cathedral city Rochester might be a possibility? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2022 22:54:50 GMT
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 1, 2022 22:56:17 GMT
Quick Google suggests similar places in the south are Winchester, Oxford, Cambridge, St Albans and Southampton No, No, No, NA* and No. More like Exeter or maybe Gloucester * I know nothing about St Albans I think Exeter is a good call, Gloucester perhaps slightly less so (bit more industrial). |
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Post by peterl on Dec 1, 2022 23:00:07 GMT
Disappointing candidates don't have to wear a high-vis. They could all have one in their party colours. Hand them out to their supporters. Then everyone could see how many each party had. |
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Post by yellowperil on Dec 1, 2022 23:00:39 GMT
So there is an elephant in the room.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 1, 2022 23:00:44 GMT
My reading is: yellow hi-vis - counting staff orange hi-vis - supervisors suits - senior officers The above allowed "inside" i.e. where there are ballot boxes and papers. candidates, agents, counting agent, media etc - mufti, and NOT allowed "inside" (unless invited and accompanied) Quite what the lady in greenish hi-vis is doing is unclear. |
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