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Post by John Chanin on Oct 10, 2022 6:43:04 GMT
Waltham Abbey is a strange place. There's not a lot to tell really. It has a strange vibe - seems very parochial for somewhere so close to London, has some really soulless estates. More tangibly, it has had really erratic voting behaviour in all the wards (apart from High Beach which isn't really Waltham Abbey) for the last 20 years, basically since Labour support has evaporated (and Labour used to pretty strong here, as you'd expect given the demographics). I guess the anti-Tory vote has floundered about looking for whatever alternative is available (and as the figures in the OP show, the options often haven't been very numerous) Epping Forest is an area where Labour have completely collapsed, not even running candidates in most places. It’s rather odd given that it is London suburbia - a demographic where Labour always has a substantial level of support. |
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Post by batman on Oct 10, 2022 9:10:08 GMT
Indeed, there probably will come a time when the demographic pressures which have ruined the Tories in nearby parts of the GLA area start to affect them in Epping Forest and Broxbourne, but certainly not yet.
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Post by kevinf on Oct 10, 2022 14:42:39 GMT
I watched the video for the Epping Forest Green ex-councillor/candidate. I think the Green Party have a duty of care here and shouldn’t have let him stand. He’s clearly not up to being a councillor at present and could have been given a break and stood again in the future. Certainly at the time of the video he was living in Thanet and due to panic attacks couldn’t attend meetings, so unless things have radically changed it’s not going to do his health any good getting re-elected. I really feel for the guy, but the Party should be looking after him better in my view. I take on board Daft’s comment above. I think he and they are in a better place to consider his mental health recovery than you are from afar. Anyway, there are so many people in politics with undiagnosed personality disorders (it's the nature of the beast) so I'm not sure why you want to pick on people who have the ability to be self aware enough to talk about their mental health issues and are clearly trying to deal with them. - fair points |
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Post by kevinf on Oct 10, 2022 14:48:19 GMT
Shadsy has Tuffley ward on the Smarkets betting site.
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Post by phil156 on Oct 10, 2022 16:01:26 GMT
They all will be counting on Thursday evening
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Post by andrewp on Oct 10, 2022 17:20:35 GMT
There won’t be many greater differences in percentage achieved by the same party in the same ward in successive elections any where than the Greens going from 62% in 2019 to 5% in 2021 in Waltham Abbey SW.
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Post by owainsutton on Oct 10, 2022 17:48:23 GMT
There won’t be many greater differences in percentage achieved by the same party in the same ward in successive elections any where than the Greens going from 62% in 2019 to 5% in 2021 in Waltham Abbey SW. Shows how, for a smaller party under FPTP, there's no such thing as a "safe" ward. Where we do retain those kind of winning vote-shares from one election to the next, it takes a lot of work. (The 2019 slate of gains will, next May, no doubt and very sadly see some big losses. I just hope that I'm right that it'll be outweighed by far more gains.) |
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Post by shadsy on Oct 11, 2022 8:38:46 GMT
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Post by John Chanin on Oct 13, 2022 12:19:45 GMT
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Post by iain on Oct 13, 2022 21:56:34 GMT
Tuffley
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Post by carolus on Oct 13, 2022 22:04:37 GMT
Con gain in Epping Forest
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Post by carolus on Oct 13, 2022 22:07:05 GMT
Lab hold in Hartlepool, Throston
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Post by maxque on Oct 13, 2022 22:10:28 GMT
Lab hold in Hartlepool, Throston Lab 50.8% (+0.1) Ind 31.6% (+4.7) Con 14.0% (-8.4) LD 3.6% |
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Post by andrewp on Oct 13, 2022 22:26:08 GMT
Per a slightly unconvincing source, the numbers I’ve heard for Epping Forest are
Con 260
Green 211
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Post by maxque on Oct 13, 2022 22:29:31 GMT
Per a slightly unconvincing source, the numbers I’ve heard for Epping Forest are Con 260 Green 211 That would be (change on 2022; change on 2019) Con 55.2% (-13.9; +17.2) Grn 44.8% (+39.6; -17.2) |
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Post by iain on Oct 13, 2022 22:51:17 GMT
Agh, disappointing to miss out. I see Gloucester Labour's stellar record continues though ... Conservative - 502 Lib Dem - 487 Labour - 451 |
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Post by iang on Oct 13, 2022 22:52:57 GMT
Once again, a near miss. How long is it since we made a gain?
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Post by maxque on Oct 13, 2022 23:01:04 GMT
Once again, a near miss. How long is it since we made a gain? August 25th, when you gained Beverley Rural (Easr Riding) from Conservatives. |
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Post by iain on Oct 13, 2022 23:20:48 GMT
Another strong second for the Lib Dems:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2022 23:21:57 GMT
The LibDems in Gloucester did a number on us with one of their sodding bar charts again. This one showing the composition of the city council as though it's somehow relevant
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