john07
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Post by john07 on Aug 11, 2022 22:36:28 GMT
If I recall correctly, Jill Archer was elected to South Borsetshire District Council in 1973, during the reorganisation elections, and proceeded to have a run in with one of the aldermen on the council. Aldermen had been abolished under the Local Government Act 1972, but were still serving in Greater London and The Isles of Scilly. It was unclear whether South Borsetshire came under Greater London or The Isles of Scilly. Did the Alderman role not continue until the reorganised authorities came into effect in May 1974? The 'shadow councils' were elected in 1973 but only took power in 1974, with the previous authorities remaining in control up to then. |
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andrewp
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Post by andrewp on Aug 11, 2022 22:39:52 GMT
The winner in Bridgend is defitnely a member of the Bridgend County Independents.
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Post by andrewp on Aug 11, 2022 23:09:47 GMT
Spelthorne. Laleham and Shepperton Green
Con 810
LD 578
TUSC 71
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Aug 11, 2022 23:36:21 GMT
Spelthorne. Laleham and Shepperton Green Con 810 LD 578 TUSC 71 Seems a decent result for the Conservatives there. |
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Post by yellowperil on Aug 12, 2022 0:39:05 GMT
Spelthorne. Laleham and Shepperton Green Con 810 LD 578 TUSC 71 Seems a decent result for the Conservatives there. Which is another way of saying it's a pretty disappointing result for the Lib Dems- not just because of the missed opportunity in itself, but of what it says about this particular bit of progressive alliance thinking- Lib Dems dropped the ball when it was their turn , so to speak. Of course local factors may trump anything else, plus August is a funny month, but maybe the wall-to-wall coverage the Tories have had lately works in their favour in places that normally would be overwhelmingly Tory anyway. |
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Post by batman on Aug 12, 2022 5:47:55 GMT
Amazingly in the Blair years Labour won a by-election in the larger County Council division including the ward.
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Post by David on Aug 12, 2022 5:55:54 GMT
Seems a decent result for the Conservatives there. Which is another way of saying it's a pretty disappointing result for the Lib Dems- not just because of the missed opportunity in itself, but of what it says about this particular bit of progressive alliance thinking- Lib Dems dropped the ball when it was their turn , so to speak. Of course local factors may trump anything else, plus August is a funny month, but maybe the wall-to-wall coverage the Tories have had lately works in their favour in places that normally would be overwhelmingly Tory anyway. |
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Post by David on Aug 12, 2022 5:56:22 GMT
Seems a decent result for the Conservatives there. Which is another way of saying it's a pretty disappointing result for the Lib Dems- not just because of the missed opportunity in itself, but of what it says about this particular bit of progressive alliance thinking- Lib Dems dropped the ball when it was their turn , so to speak. Of course local factors may trump anything else, plus August is a funny month, but maybe the wall-to-wall coverage the Tories have had lately works in their favour in places that normally would be overwhelmingly Tory anyway. |
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Post by robert1 on Aug 12, 2022 10:04:06 GMT
As a child I lived on our farm (Farmoor) between Oxford and Eynsham in what was then Berkshire, but is sadly now Oxfordshire. We understood that the Archers were based on villages in southern Warwickshire. However, at least one of the writers knew our area well and issues that arose in our village e.g. heavy lorries using side roads from a gravel quarry were included as story lines in the programme.
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Post by yellowperil on Aug 12, 2022 10:24:46 GMT
As a child I lived on our farm (Farmoor) between Oxford and Eynsham in what was then Berkshire, but is sadly now Oxfordshire. We understood that the Archers were based on villages in southern Warwickshire. However, at least one of the writers knew our area well and issues that arose in our village e.g. heavy lorries using side roads from a gravel quarry were included as story lines in the programme. There are of course a good few villages in many shires where that story line would be appropriate. |
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Post by andrewp on Aug 12, 2022 10:31:34 GMT
Wychavon, Dodderhill Con 199 Green 176 LD 50 Turnout 18.4% A gift to progressive alliance fans.  |
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 12, 2022 10:38:27 GMT
Well, that is a bit more like the typical Tory result in recent months.
Maybe their much easier than expected hold in Spelthorne was partly something of a reaction against the "Progressive Alliance" idea?
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Post by robert1 on Aug 12, 2022 10:40:24 GMT
As a child I lived on our farm (Farmoor) between Oxford and Eynsham in what was then Berkshire, but is sadly now Oxfordshire. We understood that the Archers were based on villages in southern Warwickshire. However, at least one of the writers knew our area well and issues that arose in our village e.g. heavy lorries using side roads from a gravel quarry were included as story lines in the programme. There are of course a good few villages in many shires where that story line would be appropriate. There are now, but not in the late 1950's. (Sorry, yes I am that old!)
The storyline coincided with/flowed on immediately after a row in our village.
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Post by middleenglander on Aug 12, 2022 10:45:01 GMT
Bridgend: Bridgend Central - Independent gain from Labour| Party | 2022 B votes | 2022 B share | since 2022 "top" | since 2022 "average" | | Independent Easterbrook * | 716 | 46.8% | +2.1% | +2.2% | | Labour | 590 | 38.6% | -4.3% | -4.1% | | Conservative | 150 | 9.8% | -2.7% | -2.9% | | Green | 40 | 2.6% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Liberal Democrat | 34 | 2.2% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Total votes | 1,530 |
| 59% | 62% |
* One of three Independents contesting seat in May. The two elected then sit as Bridgend County Independent Swing: Labour to Independent 3¼% since May based on 3 Independents in May contesting as a group Council now: 26 Labour, 13 Bridgend County Independent, 8 Democratic Alliance ( 3 Ind, 3 Llynfi Ind, 2 Plaid Cymru), 3 Independent, 1 Conservative Spelthorne: Laleham & Shepperton Green - Conservative hold | Party | 2022 B2 votes | 2022B share | since 2022 B1 | since 2019 "top" | since 2019 "average" | since 2015 "top" | since 2019 "average" | | Conservative | 810 | 55.5% | +11.2% | +20.7% | +23.4% | +21.3% | +23.2% | | Liberal Democrat | 578 | 39.6% | from nowhere | +23.7% | +23.3% | +28.2% | +27.3% | | TUSC | 71 | 4.9% | +0.9% | from nowhere | from nowhere | +3.1% | +3.2% | | Green |
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| -14.3% | -15.0% | -23.5% | -25.4% | | Labour |
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| -13.8% | -14.4% | -12.0% | -9.7% | | Spelthorne Ind |
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| -17.2% | -18.5% | | Total votes | 1,459 |
| 84% | 56% | 58% | 26% | 28% |
Swing: not meaningful due to the agreement between Liberal Democrat, Labour and Green for two to stand aside in three recent by-elections. Council now: 15 Conservative, 7 Liberal Democrat, 4 United Spelthorne (all elected Conservative), 3 Green, 3 Labour, 2 Breakthrough (both elected Labour), 2 Independent Spelthorne Group (1 elected Conservative, 1 Independent), 1 Independent affiliated to Conservative Group (elected as Independent), 1 Independent affiliated to Green (elected as Conservative), 1 Independent affiliated to Liberal Democrat (elected as Conservative) Wychavon: Dodderhill - Conservative hold amended - Liberal Democrat vote 32 not 50 originally reported | Party | 2022 votes | 2022 share | 2019 result | since 2015 | since 2011 | | Conservative | 199 | 48.9% | Unopposed | -18.1% | -23.9% | | Green | 176 | 43.2% |
| from nowhere | from nowhere | | Liberal Democrat | 32 | 7.9% |
| -25.2% | -19.4% | | Total votes | 407 |
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Swing: not meaningful Council now: 35 Conservative, 6 Liberal Democrat, 3 Green, 1 Independent
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Post by andrewp on Aug 12, 2022 10:46:52 GMT
Well, that is a bit more like the typical Tory result in recent months. Maybe their much easier than expected hold in Spelthorne was partly something of a reaction against the "Progressive Alliance" idea? The two results might yield lessons for the progressive alliance. If you take it too far in obviously taking it in turns then there is a risk that voters spot it and don’t like it, but is there a sweet spot in standing a single anti Tory candidate each time without making it too obvious, or is it better to stand paper candidates The Green would almost certainly have won a straight Con/ Green contest in Dodderhill. The LDs might have won a straight LD/ Con contest there. |
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Post by yellowperil on Aug 12, 2022 11:07:58 GMT
There are of course a good few villages in many shires where that story line would be appropriate. There are now, but not in the late 1950's. (Sorry, yes I am that old!)
The storyline coincided with/flowed on immediately after a row in our village.
I really think it not necessary for you to apologise for being a child in the late 50's! I was at university in the late 50's! I'm sure you are right to suggest a newsworthy row from your - then Berkshire- village at the time of the Archers story may well be its source, but I am pretty sure such rows were not that uncommon at the time, which was after all a time for a surge in house building, among other things. |
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Post by lackeroftalent on Aug 12, 2022 11:14:48 GMT
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Post by batman on Aug 12, 2022 11:23:15 GMT
Re Spelthorne, looks like the electors are not playing ball. The Greens & Labour won their by-elections, but the LDs have now lost 2 in a row.
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Post by timmullen1 on Aug 12, 2022 11:30:03 GMT
407 spoilt papers seems excessive! |
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Post by andrewp on Aug 12, 2022 11:48:15 GMT
Thankyou. A better source than Twitter! A straight Con/ Green fight would have been pretty close then I think. Not a dead cert Progressive alliance win, |
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